Rx8 will not start. (No cranks either)
 

Hello,

Rx8 2005 Manuel

Could anybody give advice on why the rx8 wont start up.
My Story is that I had the car in the garage during the winter and I went to start it up one day and of course the battery went dead. SO I took it out and had it charged. Plugged everything back in and my alarm starting going off. So finally found out to turn it off stick your key in the door and unlock it. That worked, cool. So when I tryed to start it nothing happened. Lights and everything work. but when I try to crank it nothing. Just turns and it seems like its going to start because of the lights and everything restart when I turn the key. What could be the problem? Was working fine b4. I read somewhere where could be the immobilization but idk. The alarm did go off several times. Do I have to reset something?

P.S I went to autozone and they checked the battery to be good and at 89% charged.

I would realy appreciate feedback. I have done some research in the past about other things but I couldn't find anything with the same problem as me.

Thanks in advance.


ISSUE FIXED:

Thanks everybody for the help. I was new to this and should have started with the start. Had a feeling it was the problem. (which it was) but threw me off when I saw the security light come on and my keyless remote didn't work. (because I took it apart)

Well I had it towed to Mazda dealer near Buffalo ( Towne Auto - Your Positively Different New And Used Car Dealer In Buffalo, NY ) and they said it was the start and it flooded. So replaced it with an after market start. Then a good raping in wallet. (learned my lesson) Nice people but ehhh expensive. So that fixed that. Then realized why my Remote wasn't working... forgot to reattach one more piece to it. (I am now good at tearing down the keyfob and knowing what it needs lol) But dealer also cut the new key for me.

Bought a new keyfob but will not work because there are 3 different kinds. My FCC number is different than the one they sent me. So working on getting the right one (From Remotez4Less). Will post later on when I get it working.

Stupid question, but are you depressing the clutch fully? If you are, then did you by chance hook the battery up backwards at any point?

I'm confused..you say engine cranks or doesn't?? perhaps you flooded it??? if so search for unflooding procedure

Hmm.. Do our cars have a security lock out? If so, and I think we do, it sounds like you tripped the system into thinking you broke into it? Off to google, I am curious.

Does anything in this thread sound similar to your issue?

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tro...-start-212858/

Also check your fuses and battery cable connection. ^_^

Just saw where he says it turns and seems like it's going to start. Sounds flooded because his battery "went dead" the first time he tried to start it

yeah, im willing to bet anything it's flooded

Thanks for the fast replies!

That one post does seem to be similar other than I never touched the fuse box. and I put the battery in one way. I believe it can go in only one way because one of the wires wouldn't even reach the terminal. (correct me if im wrong) I will defiantly check the fuses though and let you guys know. I do have a flashing car with key symbol. and I did have it flooded before but it allowed me to crank at least. When I turn the key this time I really don't hear that crank. If I try to deflood this and its not flooded. Will there be any harm done?

I will keep trying things and keep you guys posted. Just a reminder. Everything turns on. Just nothing when I try and turn the key.

Appreciate the input keep them coming! Hopefully I can get this running and me and my buddy can cruise our town. (we are noobs but want to know everything about our cars.)

bad/seized starter??..if you have a hill or some buddies to push, you could pop the clutch to see if it starts..that will tell ya if it's the starter..pray that it isn't a seized engine..not trying to scare you, just giving you all possibilities

it is turning or isnt turning?

I will be trying some stuff today. and It doesn't crank but when it turns the radio restarts and the lights on the dash restart. (i hope it is flooded. I actually remember now that my car flooded like this and would actually not even turn. Just have to do the deflood method of pulling a fuse jump starting it blah blah. Took a couple trys but started up. Ahh man wish me luck)

Is the starter turning or not? If the starter isn't turning or making noise then it's not a flooding issue causing this. Although, it could be flooded in addition to this. Have you tried locking the car with the key and unlocking it again to reset the security system & immobilizer in case that's the problem?
A roll start is a good idea. Sounds like either a blown fuse or a bad starter/solenoid. Are you pushing the clutch all the way?

you certainly have everyone here confused..if the car does not crank, it has nothing to do with a flooding issue. You can also remove the engine to any car and the dash lights will come on..so I think you need to give us better info..do you even know what the term crank means? it doesn't mean crank the ignition! let me ask this question" when you turn the key, does the engine turn over"? nevermind the lights and crap..better yet If i were you, and for our better understanding, post a small video here showing your starting procedure

I had something similar happen this weekend... I thought that maybe my battery was dead and took it back to Advanced Auto parts (3yr warranty FTW on my Optima Red Top). It was a little low but still should have started my 8. They gave me a new one anyway.

Put it in...still no cranking, just lights on the gauge cluster. Decided to check fuses and my main fuse was blown. $10.00 later my 8 is running fine again.

Question for you: When you say it does not crank you mean that it is not turning over at all correct (like Topwiz mentioned above).

Also, when you put the key in the ignition and turn it to the "on" position does your radio, door locks, windows roll down, etc. work? If not it is most likely a fuse...

Sorry I wasn't clear on what turning over the engine ment but no the engine will not turn. All that happens is that I hear a clicking noise when I turn the key thats it. (clutch is all the way down) and Yes all the windows radio works. I pulled the fuse for fuel and tried pumping anything out and still nothing (only did it for a few mins then plugged it back in) but still nothing. Any other ideas ? If you guys still don't understand ill make a video. Only thing I can guess is its flooded because my battery died b4 and I had to replace it and deflood but now the engine doesn't even turn.

I appreciate all the replies!

TRANSLATION

So I woke up the other morning and went out to start my car. I have very likely never changed my plugs, coils, and/or wires and if you ask me about my cat I'll inform you he's doing fine, just a little overweight.

Anyway, I cranked and cranked and cranked until eventually I killed my battery. Now when I try the voltage drops low enough to kill the stereo and soon I'll likely have it so excessively discharged that I won't be able to get it to recover.

While posting here it dawned on me that I had this problem once before and pulled my ESS fuse and eventually got it deflooded. Silly me doesn't know that all I have to do is fully engage the gas pedal to force a fuel cut.

a clicking noise means dead battery..not enough cranking power..did you try kick starting it yet...or perhaps a boost..let us know

good luck kick starting a 13B. A push start would be more helpful assuming it is not an auto. His is a Manuel.

actually push start is what i meant..sorry

your battery is dead

Even if my lights turn on? I will buy a new battery but I had this one checked and they said it was good and charged.

And If that doesn't work. Im starting to think that its a 120A fuse which I been reading around or my starter. But why would my starter just die after sitting? It was working fine b4. By letting it sit, it can break? idk Is there any kind of test I should perform to find out if its a fuse?

Thanks

He had the battery tested and it passed so it shouldn't be the problem. There aren't really any "tests" you can perform to find out if it's a fuse, besides looking inside it to see if the filament is broken. If there is an audible click outside the car when you try to start it, I'm would say you have a dead solenoid and/or starter. And yes, it can die from sitting.

If all of the electronics work (radio, windows, dash lights, wipers, etc) then I doubt it's a fuse.

You should try to roll-start it. It will start that way, even if the starter/solenoid is bad. It won't start if it's a fuse, though.

Edit: Where are you located?

you can test the fuse with a multi meter

true. But I'm thinking that it should be pretty obvious it's blown, if it is blown lol

small single click could be of course that the battery is not connected properly or a fuse etc but usually is battery dead


loud single click or multiple clicking (multiple clicks in rapid succession) means the juice is getting through the circuit to the starter so either its not enough juice to engage the bendix cylinder or the solenoid or starter itself has failed. have them checked to determine which it is.

does your car sound like this?

Yes it sounds like the video. Its not rapid but only one single click.

Bomba, what happens if you try to start the engine with your head lamps switched on, do they dim quickly or stay bright ? The reason I ask, if if you have a bad connection ie: the cable to the starter motor or battery terminal ,the lights will fade quickly. If you check the nut on the starter,disconnect the negative terminal at the battery first, you don't want to short out anything.Apart from that, pull the starter off, connect a battery to it to see if it actually works.

starter solenoid fail

and be careful dorking around with the power lead going into the starter. It is ALWAYS hot.

Well haven't tried the lights yet. Iv'e been busy working but I will try later today. And also I hear the clicking right under the fuse box or its a fuse itself. I took out the IGNITION fuse and going to test if its okay. But has anybody had a problem with hearing a clicking noise coming from the fuse box?

Thanks everybody. Love this forum. (I will keep updating what I do and what works.)

And for the guy that asked where I am at. Im in NY like a hour away from Buffalo.

well thats the ignition or starter relay its supposed to click there.

ISSUE FIXED

Thanks everybody for the help. I was new to this and should have started with the starter. Had a feeling it was the problem. (which it was) but threw me off when I saw the security light come on and my keyless remote didn't work. (because I took it apart)

Well I had it towed to Mazda dealer near Buffalo ( Towne Auto - Your Positively Different New And Used Car Dealer In Buffalo, NY ) and they said it was the starter and it flooded. So replaced it with an after market start. Then a good raping in wallet. (learned my lesson) Nice people but ehhh expensive. So that fixed that. Then realized why my Remote wasn't working... forgot to reattach one more piece to it. (I am now good at tearing down the keyfob and knowing what it needs lol) But dealer also cut the new key for me.

Bought a new keyfob but will not work because there are 3 different kinds. My FCC number is different than the one they sent me. So working on getting the right one (From Remotez4Less). Will post later on when I get it working.

Thanks for everybody that tried helping!

my windows and radio don't work and locks and heat. Which relay fuse could cause this?

I changed out the power window fuses and they still don't work. So thinking could be a relay fuse.

New here, and just bought an 04 RX8.. Has me stumped tight now... put a upgraded starter in it, new battery.. new plugs/coil packs... Cranks great, but wont fire... Push/pull start it and within 3 feet, starts and runs great... going
thru fuses, but no owners manual, so the big ones you can see if good or bad.. dont know... Any ideas? I know cars, bikes, boats, etc... but this has me stumped...

There are some PDF manuals online.

This makes no sense. If it cranks fast and you can push start it then logically it should fire right up when you crank it. If it had a bad clutch sensor or similar then it would never crank.

was it starting before you replaced the starter?

Cranks, but no light off..
 

I am not sure, the guy I bought it from told me he thought it was cranking too slow and needed the new style starter because he couldnt get it to start.... so I did. Thats the only thing I know about it.....:confused:

2004 rx8 will not start
 

i have a 2004 mazda rx8 car will not crank radio will not come on dash lights are on checked all fuses bought new battery but still will not crank over hear like a whining noise from starter but it still wont crank any body got any ideas

Hello guys, im also having problems with my 04. It was running just fine, went out of the country on the 14th, came back on the 29th, tried starting it yesterday and its cranking really slow and will not start. I thought it was the battery so i jumped it and no luck. I just got the car in august and have since replaced the coils with the BHR ignition kit, replaced the battery terminals, and replaced the starter a few months back. What could be causing this? Maybe i got a dud of a starter?

Here is a video i recorded today.


Thanks!

Get your battery checked.
Happened to me recently with a 3 year old battery that I bought a few months after I first got it.
Sat for a week.
I had one slow crank, didn't start, which pretty much never happens.
Tried it again and it was flooded.
Got a new battery, deflood procedure, and back to normal.

Thanks! I'll go get a new battery tomorrow :)

I did say get it checked.
Don't buy a new battery without knowing it's bad.

However, Advance Auto (warranty) checked mine and said it was good.
I disagreed, and they said they would need to charge it and check it again.
I knew it wasn't because every time I charged it, it quickly drained.
I insisted on getting a new battery because I didn't want to waste time.
They sold me a new pro rated one, iIrc, it was $70something for a $130 gold top.

No dice :( , battery was good and even tried a different battery and its still turning slow

I have a similar problem if anyone could help I'd appreciate it.

so I have an optima redtop battery. I just bought a new one about 2 months ago. my car has a problem where the car will unlock and I get in. The lights are working the key goes in the ignition. I go to start it. Then all of the sudden everything goes away. Every light is gone inside and outside of the car like turning the key drained all the battery. I then get it jumped with a quick 2 second jump and I plug in my Cobb access port to check the voltage right away. It's reading 14.1-14.4. I'm stumped to why the battery doesn't work sometimes and needs to be jumped even though it's fully charged. the DTC and traction control light are illuminated after I start the car. The car did not reset because the stations are still there the clock is correct as well. The trip meters are also still as they were before.


Any help is appreciated. Thank you

Be sure your terminals are clean and tight.
The terminals can stretch over time and even though the bolt is completely tight, it can be loose.
You can shim it, or buy little post caps to take up the slack.
You can also check that your grounds are not loose or corroded.

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Alright I'll use my dremel to clean them but this is them ATM.

Did I mention loose terminals?


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The terminals were tight. I ended up cleaning the terminals up and each wire that connects to the battery. I also put metal inside of the terminals to make them tighter fit. I'll update here if needed. The problem has happened a few times over the recent weeks so I'll report back in a few days if I'm still having issues.

thank you guys for the help. I wasn't sure that could be the issue but hey could have been but now I cleaned them.