Notices
Series I Trouble Shooting This is the place to learn more about or discuss any issues you're having with your RX-8

RECALL THREAD/MNAO suspend RX-8 deliveries.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 07-10-2005, 04:40 AM
  #51  
Thews8
 
thew's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Oregon South Coast
Posts: 2,533
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Again, its not really all that Bad.
1st we dont really know WT#$%# is up here.. So Far I have not heard doo doo.. that means nothing, but remeber its a Brand New Car.... Its got to have some Issues.. Mazda Is still the best car CO. for people like us that love to mod tweek and enjoy our cars.. Give Mazda a Brake and lets see what this is really about.. I dread the thought of taking my car to the dealer cause the Beat it ,scratch or otherwise abuse it but... Let snot thow the car out with the dirty oil !!

New Cars will have isssues...
Keep your fingers crossed this is not a major issue.

Last edited by thew; 07-10-2005 at 04:43 AM.
Old 07-10-2005, 07:28 AM
  #52  
Registered
 
Rasputin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Europe
Posts: 581
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't understand either why people get all nervous because a recall that is free of charge and will solve a potentially important issue on their car.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:29 AM
  #53  
Sold on Rotaries!
 
MI_FamilyMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Michigan
Posts: 542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Not to mention the fact that if they weren't on this board, they wouldn't even know about this and would be driving around happy as can be.
Old 07-10-2005, 11:09 AM
  #54  
Ex- member.
 
adrian-1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,694
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Freakin' GREAT.
This is not good news. I live in TX and have the Greddy turbo which increases the temps even more. I'll wait and see what they say the prob is.

I may just have to get a sportbike and keep the car in "summer storage" .
Old 07-10-2005, 11:46 AM
  #55  
Registered User
 
DreRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,959
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car forums are funny. ANOTHER RECALL--I'm TRADING IN--what a crock of bullsh*t. When/if I receive notice from my dealer then I'll go with the flow. What a bunch of whiney babies--do you guys really think that no other car has recalls?
Old 07-10-2005, 12:01 PM
  #56  
Registered User
 
Aseras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,587
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
well at least is isnt like ford where the mdiea has to jump on the bandwagon and people needed to die and wreck all over the place before a fix came out.
Old 07-10-2005, 12:09 PM
  #57  
Registered User
 
mitchfried's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have no issues with recalls (much better than having a problem with no fix) except as it may impact on resale value. Remember the mid 1980's Audi 5000 sudden accelerator/runaway car issues? You couldn't give the car away once the panic set in.

I've had zero problems with my 8 and it's running great. I hope that a new flash won't degrade performance.
Old 07-10-2005, 12:15 PM
  #58  
Registered
 
Sigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 691
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well at least is isnt like ford where the mdiea has to jump on the bandwagon and people needed to die and wreck all over the place before a fix came out.
Funny thing is that Ford is widely considered the most proactive manufacturer when it comes to recalls by far.

It could be like Honda, which in the past has attempted to go so far as to sue for the right to withold its' Recall and TSB information from the general public. So that even once it got off its' *** to release the information the general consumer wouldn't know about it for as long as possible.
Old 07-10-2005, 12:15 PM
  #59  
Senior Geek
 
RX8-TX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Richardson, TX
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mitchfried
I have no issues with recalls (much better than having a problem with no fix) except as it may impact on resale value. Remember the mid 1980's Audi 5000 sudden accelerator/runaway car issues? You couldn't give the car away once the panic set in.

I've had zero problems with my 8 and it's running great. I hope that a new flash won't degrade performance.
ditto.
Old 07-10-2005, 12:54 PM
  #60  
Administrator
 
zoom44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: portland oregon
Posts: 21,958
Received 115 Likes on 88 Posts
stop with the silly panicing. i said before thre's no reason to get all jumpy and pissed off etc. they have discovered and issue that effects some cars. they are going to "fix" all the cars even the majority that have no symptoms. they are being very proactive about it. relax it not abig deal.
Old 07-10-2005, 01:17 PM
  #61  
Registered User
 
mitchfried's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lake Mary, Florida
Posts: 176
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Will Do
Attached Thumbnails RECALL THREAD/MNAO suspend RX-8 deliveries.-familyguy_peter125.jpg  
Old 07-10-2005, 01:49 PM
  #62  
Registered
 
rkostolni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Virginia/Maryland
Posts: 1,294
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
will it be a problem getting this fixes for those of us who are turbo'd?
Old 07-10-2005, 01:53 PM
  #63  
Registered
 
Sigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 691
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Recall work must be performed on all cars no matter what. Unless of course it involves replacing something you already replaced.
Old 07-10-2005, 02:07 PM
  #64  
Who Cares?
 
Air Force RX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Robins Air Force Base, Georgia
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DreRX8
Car forums are funny. ANOTHER RECALL--I'm TRADING IN--what a crock of bullsh*t. When/if I receive notice from my dealer then I'll go with the flow. What a bunch of whiney babies--do you guys really think that no other car has recalls?
Well actually it isn't just about the recall, it's about all the other issues I have had and having to drive 30 minutes one way to get service and have the idiots not have the right parts, or forgot to order this or that. I'm just tired of dealing with all these trips at my expense and wasted time away from work as they do not offer loaners or courtesy cars to drop you off when you live so far away. I have enough equity in my car that I have that luxury. So I know where you can stick your "whiney babies" comment.
Old 07-10-2005, 02:36 PM
  #65  
Still spining
 
RotorGeek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Miramar FL.
Posts: 986
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I will wait and see what Mazda says. It will be repaired for free so I don't care.
Old 07-10-2005, 05:07 PM
  #66  
Administrator
 
zoom44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: portland oregon
Posts: 21,958
Received 115 Likes on 88 Posts
air force your problem is your dealer not mazda
Old 07-10-2005, 05:48 PM
  #67  
Lubricious
 
Nubo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: SF Bay Area, California
Posts: 3,425
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Gomez
Relax. Don't jump to any rash conclusions. The smarts in this car will allow Mazda to tailor the flash for the operating conditions. They will be able to modify the fuel delivery to dump more fuel in if the car is stationary at high revs for an extended period. How often do you operate the car that way?
I hope you're right. Then again I'd sure like to know what kind of "high revs" and "extended periods" they're talking about. I can't imagine anyone operates their vehicle like this, other than the 3-4K/10 sec shutoff procedure and I wouldn't call 10 seconds "extended". However if they are talking about regimes that you'd encounter in stop-and-go traffic then that's bad news. I can already see the needle move under those conditions.
Old 07-10-2005, 08:31 PM
  #68  
Shifty Bastard.
Thread Starter
 
Gomez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Melbourne, Australia.
Posts: 4,835
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Nubo
I hope you're right. Then again I'd sure like to know what kind of "high revs" and "extended periods" they're talking about. I can't imagine anyone operates their vehicle like this, other than the 3-4K/10 sec shutoff procedure and I wouldn't call 10 seconds "extended". However if they are talking about regimes that you'd encounter in stop-and-go traffic then that's bad news. I can already see the needle move under those conditions.
In stop-and-go traffic, you're not at high revs. Vehicle speed is an input to the PCM to determine injector duty cycle....they can tailor the flash this way.
Old 07-10-2005, 09:12 PM
  #69  
Who Cares?
 
Air Force RX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Robins Air Force Base, Georgia
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by zoom44
air force your problem is your dealer not mazda
Well, I think that goes without saying...figuring that out isn't solving the mystery of the decade by any stretch of the imagination. It's all these things that keep forcing me to have to deal with them that is driving my decision, not the fact that there are issues.

I have not been bashing the car or Mazda, just stating that these things are making me want to get out of this vicious cycle. I really enjoy the 8 and all, but it is just beginning to become less fun with every trip to Macon.

Last edited by Air Force RX8; 07-10-2005 at 09:15 PM.
Old 07-10-2005, 09:20 PM
  #70  
No respecter of malarkey
iTrader: (25)
 
TeamRX8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,721
Received 2,009 Likes on 1,638 Posts
Originally Posted by zoom44
stop with the silly panicing. i said before thre's no reason to get all jumpy and pissed off etc. they have discovered and issue that effects some cars. they are going to "fix" all the cars even the majority that have no symptoms. they are being very proactive about it. relax it not abig deal.

most of the people on this board are young, inexperienced, and just don't know any different

I'll leave it at that :o
Old 07-10-2005, 09:26 PM
  #71  
SDB
Registered
 
SDB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 172
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Air Force RX8
Well actually it isn't just about the recall, it's about all the other issues I have had and having to drive 30 minutes one way to get service and have the idiots not have the right parts, or forgot to order this or that. I'm just tired of dealing with all these trips at my expense and wasted time away from work as they do not offer loaners or courtesy cars to drop you off when you live so far away. I have enough equity in my car that I have that luxury. So I know where you can stick your "whiney babies" comment.
I don't understand why the dealer doesn't give a loaner. The RX-8 sales brochure says "And should your Mazda Rx-8 require a warranty repair, the Mazda Service Transportation Solution can typically provide another vehicle to drive." Note the word - typically - not sure what this means.

So far, at 14000 miles, I haven't needed warranty service but I asked the service writer last time I had my oil changed. His response was that if the service required over 4 hours then I would get a loaner. 4 hours seemed kind of long but I haven't needed to test it yet.
Old 07-10-2005, 09:27 PM
  #72  
Registered User
 
clydejmuggs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 110
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you don't have any issues now...why not wait until your next service and check on the recall?
Old 07-10-2005, 09:37 PM
  #73  
Registered
iTrader: (3)
 
olddragger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: macon, georgia
Posts: 10,828
Likes: 0
Received 38 Likes on 27 Posts
Like I said before Kudo's to Mazda for stepping up and this may be a good thing. It seems to me they would have to push a lot of gas through the engine to cool the cat anymore--- hell it is already running rich to start with. Even with the latest flash. I still say that the heat under the hood can cause some problems also. I hear what all are saying about the tanks an such but heat is heat. I wonder if the sheilding will be trapping some heat under the car also--maybe not. We will just have to wait and see. Is there anyway to make the engine run cooler? I dnt know withthe electronics in this thing. Hell on the track the engine stays cool! Moving all that air.
olddragger
Old 07-10-2005, 09:40 PM
  #74  
Registered
 
Sigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 691
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I don't understand why the dealer doesn't give a loaner. The RX-8 sales brochure says "And should your Mazda Rx-8 require a warranty repair, the Mazda Service Transportation Solution can typically provide another vehicle to drive." Note the word - typically - not sure what this means.
It means that not every dealership choose to participate in the program. Most dealerships will grant loaners, but some will not. And every dealership has a different benchmark of what kind of work it has to be to get a loaner car -- some will give you a loaner for a simple oil change, some require it to be more than 3 hours or even longer.
Old 07-10-2005, 11:25 PM
  #75  
Bah! Who needs a redline?
 
LiveToRev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Flooriduh
Posts: 177
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Gomez
More info has come to hand. Looks as if all affected cars will need modification. A heat shield fitted to the fuel tank, and possibly some additional work as well. New cars off the boat have had the heat shield fitted at the factory.

My contact tells me cars built in late March '05 (not sure of the exact date) have the new shield installed. Every earlier RX-8 will need a heat shield. I believe all North American RX-8's (including cars built after late March '05) will get a new flash as part of this recall, as well. Looks like they'll be relying on the new flash to drop the cat temp which is affecting the other components mentioned earlier.

I'm still not sure how this will all pan out for owners of RX-8's in countries outside North America, but it is looking likely (to me) that they'll need modifying too.

Gomez.
I looked under the car today and saw that there is already a small, metal heat shield that covers the middle of the fuel tank. My car's build date was August 2004 (2005 model year). Can anybody else confirm this or if I have mistaken this metal piece as a heat shield?


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: RECALL THREAD/MNAO suspend RX-8 deliveries.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:33 AM.