Swanny2k4

Iv got a 2004 192 rx8 and I can't see a dsc button. My question is can I still turn off the traction control is any way whatsoever ? By any means obviously without the use of the button?

Any hell would be great, thanks

godesshunter

I think that means you have a "sport" model with no traction control. It isn't there to turn off.

RIWWP

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Correct. No DSC button down and to the left of the steering wheel next to the dimmer switch means that you have a Sport (or Base as was called in a few years) which does not have DSC/TCS in it, so there is nothing to turn off. They are a linked system, both on, both off, both present or both not.

Swanny2k4

Iv actually found the button... So happy :D no idea what model it is then, o well cheers guys!

RIWWP

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If you have DSC but cloth seats, it's a Touring. If you have DSC and leather seats with the switches in the middle for the heater elements, it's a Grand Touring.

Swanny2k4

Yeah I have leather with heaters :D

alnielsen

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He's in the U.K. guys. They may have had a different way to identify models there.

Swanny2k4, I'm glad you found the DSC button. Just so you know, a quick push will turn off most functions of the DSC/TSC. To turn it completely off, hold the button in for more than 10 seconds. This will cause an error code to be entered in the computer, but everybody knows how this error gets there and it causes no issues.

Chris Ryan

if you really don't want dsc just remove the fuse in the engine compartment and it will even disable ABS

Swanny2k4

I don't want to kill myself though haha

What is disabled when I just press it once? And yeah holding it down brings the TC light up

alnielsen

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I've been driving for 40 yrs. This is the first car I've driven that has DSC/TSC. I turn it off on track days. I find it gets in the way when I'm pressing it hard.
With the single touch, DSC will still activate, it just takes more to do so.
Find a big parking lot (car park), experiment and find out.

RIWWP

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^ That is a highly debated question. For my 2005, the tap off and the full press off have no difference between the two. I have spent quite a bit of time in the snow trying to find a difference, and have not found a difference between the two.

HOWEVER, other people have indeed found a difference where I found none. These other people report that just tapping it off will still allow DSC to kick in if you slide past too severe of an angle, it's just much wider than with the system "fully on". Other people report that DSC gets completely disabled, but TCS remains on.

I suspect that there are software differences between model years and/or trims and/or geographical markets that would explain the difference. This is not a theory I have any way of proving though.

alnielsen

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Or, how hard you drive the car.

Swanny2k4

Hmmm well it's my first rear wheel drive car, and let's just say iv been having alot of fun with it turned off :p

I know this is random and off topic but what oil is best ? I know alot of people debate this with the rx8?

RIWWP

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With a tap off and in the snow, I can easily get the 8 to do donuts, swap ends, 360s, etc..., system never triggers or intervenes.

Just keep in mind that it's like a seatbelt. Generally leave it on, because it's those moments when you don't expect you need it that you will suddenly wish you had it on.


And no, we won't get into oil. Yes, it's always debated, asking here won't change that. In the end, you have to decide for yourself

alnielsen

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https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...4/#post3663967 near the bottom.
Read the complete thread.

Swanny2k4

Ok thanks for help

And I did a 360 on the spot rather easily in the dry haha

Emery_

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Not to mention there was that one guy that would only add oil as his engine consumed it. He never even changed the oil filter.

RIWWP

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That is just asking for trouble in my opinion. Possible in theory without much of a problem? Sure. If never changed and only topped off, we would have added the entire contents of the oil system in about 6,000 miles, which is only 20% longer than Mazda's recommended change interval of 5,000 miles. But your oil would never be healthy and never be clean, and I can't ever believe that it's acceptable.

Maybe in the future cars will have 'oil cleaners' that scrub carbon, metal, dirt, etc... from the oil effectively enough, but our engine's oil environment is far far too harsh to consider that method without taking quite a bit of risk.

Emery_

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Oh yeah it's definitely risky, but I was just mentioning his way. I think his engine did last a decent amount of mileage though, so it's crazy that he was even able to get a lot of mileage that way.

I can only imagine how clogged his oil filter must have been. I wonder if it even worked anymore after some time.