misfire...after coils and plugs changed.
01-27-2008, 10:01 PM
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Dealerships like to bullshit you out of your money. They finished highschool, and they know they get more $$$ if they bullshit their way into your wallet.
Seriously. I got charged for a powersteering fluid change when there isn't ******* powersteering fluid to change. I told them to save their BS for someone else, and now I am adamant about never going to dealerships for maintenance.
Seriously. I got charged for a powersteering fluid change when there isn't ******* powersteering fluid to change. I told them to save their BS for someone else, and now I am adamant about never going to dealerships for maintenance.
01-27-2008, 10:52 PM
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i've been driving around with cel, on and off on some days, but i believe my front o2 censor is bad. i will take a look when pulling the cat if i get a chance.
when i drove with the new plugs, i did a pull in 2nd (with all what was described before) the CEL started flashing. so I turned into a median to go back, the CEL went away. I pulled again just to verify the points of misfire/sluggish feel the CEL started to blink again when turning into another median.
geez, i hate '04 already.
01-27-2008, 10:58 PM
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coils are the lastest.
i've been driving around with cel, on and off on some days, but i believe my front o2 censor is bad. i will take a look when pulling the cat if i get a chance.
when i drove with the new plugs, i did a pull in 2nd (with all what was described before) the CEL started flashing. so I turned into a median to go back, the CEL went away. I pulled again just to verify the points of misfire/sluggish feel the CEL started to blink again when turning into another median.
geez, i hate '04 already.
i've been driving around with cel, on and off on some days, but i believe my front o2 censor is bad. i will take a look when pulling the cat if i get a chance.
when i drove with the new plugs, i did a pull in 2nd (with all what was described before) the CEL started flashing. so I turned into a median to go back, the CEL went away. I pulled again just to verify the points of misfire/sluggish feel the CEL started to blink again when turning into another median.
geez, i hate '04 already.
then I just ignore it and keep driving it like nutz .... never came back after that, yet.
01-27-2008, 11:03 PM
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coils are the lastest.
i've been driving around with cel, on and off on some days, but i believe my front o2 censor is bad. i will take a look when pulling the cat if i get a chance.
when i drove with the new plugs, i did a pull in 2nd (with all what was described before) the CEL started flashing. so I turned into a median to go back, the CEL went away. I pulled again just to verify the points of misfire/sluggish feel the CEL started to blink again when turning into another median.
geez, i hate '04 already.
i've been driving around with cel, on and off on some days, but i believe my front o2 censor is bad. i will take a look when pulling the cat if i get a chance.
when i drove with the new plugs, i did a pull in 2nd (with all what was described before) the CEL started flashing. so I turned into a median to go back, the CEL went away. I pulled again just to verify the points of misfire/sluggish feel the CEL started to blink again when turning into another median.
geez, i hate '04 already.
that was not my issue. btw, look at the plug wires close.. where the connection is.. i can send you a set if needed.
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01-28-2008, 01:26 AM
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i guess you dont know what the cel is?? not the blinking one.. you might be having fun with what i just went through, but one of the things is the front o2 sensor..
that was not my issue. btw, look at the plug wires close.. where the connection is.. i can send you a set if needed.
beers
that was not my issue. btw, look at the plug wires close.. where the connection is.. i can send you a set if needed.
beers
i have a set of MSD wires that i bought from SR about a year and a half ago. I had them on for a while, but took them off because it threw a CEL (but it was just a misfire, and yeah). Should I give the MSD wires a chance and just take pics of the oem plugs and post here?
01-28-2008, 01:41 AM
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i just examine them thoroughly?
i have a set of MSD wires that i bought from SR about a year and a half ago. I had them on for a while, but took them off because it threw a CEL (but it was just a misfire, and yeah). Should I give the MSD wires a chance and just take pics of the oem plugs and post here?
i have a set of MSD wires that i bought from SR about a year and a half ago. I had them on for a while, but took them off because it threw a CEL (but it was just a misfire, and yeah). Should I give the MSD wires a chance and just take pics of the oem plugs and post here?
look at the connectors the attach to the plugs for corrosion... and make sure they are in the coils tight.. the front lower one tends to come loose.
i would compare the wires and see if you can see something odd...
but with new plugs and coils.. that is the odd man out..
also pull the room fuse to reset the ecu...
beers
01-28-2008, 02:53 AM
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look at the connectors the attach to the plugs for corrosion... and make sure they are in the coils tight.. the front lower one tends to come loose.
i would compare the wires and see if you can see something odd...
but with new plugs and coils.. that is the odd man out..
also pull the room fuse to reset the ecu...
beers
i would compare the wires and see if you can see something odd...
but with new plugs and coils.. that is the odd man out..
also pull the room fuse to reset the ecu...
beers
so just pull the room fuse, reset and install again?
01-28-2008, 06:59 PM
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01-28-2008, 08:30 PM
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thanks scott, and everyone else + OP for letting me borrow his thread.
01-28-2008, 10:29 PM
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Then I was in Tokyo over New Years they had a big mac with egg in it.. Crazy
bose - so what's up? any news from the clowns at Mazda?
01-28-2008, 10:48 PM
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01-29-2008, 01:12 PM
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Oh yes here's the lastest gem from the lead tech. He said that my cat wasn't clogged he used the wrong term, he said that the 2nd o2 sensor readings are 'off' what they normally look for so my ecu adjusted the air intake and fuel consumption, so I altered the vehicle, at this point I interrupt and ask so that causes seals to blow, his response was no, we're not sure what made the seals go bad. Then I refer to Mag Moss you guys have to prove what about my parts caused the failure, he says no you have to prove they didn't cause failure. Well my intake is the same as the one you sell with a mazdaspeed sticker, my cat is in perfect condition I have a muffler shop that can vouch and my exhaust is more free flowing they couldn't cause this. He says well how do you explain the reading from the o2 sensor look we can go back and forth on this all day fact is your motor is bad and it's not covered cause of the parts. So they admit they have no clue what caused the problem, I have proved my parts are fine and still I get no help. Next step...I guess court or somthing. What I don't get is my car still runs fine no power loss idk, I still wonder if the compression is even bad maybe they don't know how to check it. 
01-29-2008, 01:57 PM
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^ Make sure they warmed it up properly before doing the compression check? Maybe find a rotary shop to do it for you so you're 100% sure it's done properly.
Here's another good piece on the MM Act http://www.knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm
Here's another good piece on the MM Act http://www.knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm
01-29-2008, 03:34 PM
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Oh yes here's the lastest gem from the lead tech. He said that my cat wasn't clogged he used the wrong term, he said that the 2nd o2 sensor readings are 'off' what they normally look for so my ecu adjusted the air intake and fuel consumption, so I altered the vehicle, at this point I interrupt and ask so that causes seals to blow, his response was no, we're not sure what made the seals go bad. Then I refer to Mag Moss you guys have to prove what about my parts caused the failure, he says no you have to prove they didn't cause failure. Well my intake is the same as the one you sell with a mazdaspeed sticker, my cat is in perfect condition I have a muffler shop that can vouch and my exhaust is more free flowing they couldn't cause this. He says well how do you explain the reading from the o2 sensor look we can go back and forth on this all day fact is your motor is bad and it's not covered cause of the parts. So they admit they have no clue what caused the problem, I have proved my parts are fine and still I get no help. Next step...I guess court or somthing. What I don't get is my car still runs fine no power loss idk, I still wonder if the compression is even bad maybe they don't know how to check it.
Maybe I should start giving them a call, I want to make sure that they understand english and re-read what it saids on the Moss Act. How about a file to small claims court sound to them and/or Mazda ?
What did Mazda say now ? Have you give them a call recently ?
and they ask how can you explain the motors went bad? How fuxking stupid can they get? **** happens? Tell them, Why some people never smoke, never drink, Eat right and excerise everyday, Going to bed in the right time, never messed around can still get Cancer? Ask them that, Yeah I wanna them to give me an explaination in that too.
I can explain that, cuz **** ******* HAPPENS EVERY DAY !
I dont understand these people, if they are fuxking lazy and dont want to do ****, why didnt they study hard back in school and get a more decent job ? They're not even that low pay, being a dealership tech can get them what, 15-20 bux an hour? and they're still lazy as fuxk. god!
Seriously, can you go to another dealership by any chance? cuz this one u're going right now are nothing but a bunch of fuxk tards.
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01-30-2008, 10:04 AM
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Im almost positive they didn't do the test right. cause my compression numbers they gave me are like 6.4, 6.3, 6.5. From everyone I have talked to who has low compression their cars either won't start and if they do start they don't run well at all, loss of power and such. My car feels no different at all, she starts, runs, idles well everything seems great, cel has been gone for 2 weeks. I was reading on how to check rotory compression you need a specialized tester, when I asked the dealer how they did it, they said same as a piston engine!
Yeah I believe the limit in small claims is 3 grand.
Dennis is the tech's name, Bountiful Mazda is the dealer 801-397-2277.
Yeah I believe the limit in small claims is 3 grand.
Dennis is the tech's name, Bountiful Mazda is the dealer 801-397-2277.