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MRPN 01-22-2008 08:17 PM

mazda says i need $11775 to repair my 8
 
i took my 8 to the dealer for a diagnostics on what was wrong. note all that happened is i stoped for gas, went 1.5 miles the cel come on and was blinking. i got water in the gas. they said they did a comp. check and i had 0 comp. on the #2 rotor. the car would not run or idel,but they give me the computer read out on the codes and the temps of the cat. which got to 2700 deg.f. they could not show me the comp. readings, the service manager said the tech seen something on the diagnostics about the 0 comp.on rotor #2. is that posible ? to go on futher they said that i need a maf. which i just changed, aftermarket , they have never seen a reman. maf. from o-reilly's. and the after market cat was the reason for my failure. is this possible? and also could it be possible the melted wires that the cat overheated from the excessive fuel, be the cause of the codes of p0037rear ho2sheater control circ. low,p0171 system to lean, p0300 random misfire,p0506 i.a.c.s.rpm lower than expected,p2070, ssv stuck open,p0302, rear rotor misfire. can they determine 0 compression off of the computer read out.

dannobre 01-22-2008 08:21 PM

In order to get compression #'s they have to do a specific compression test.

Unlikely to have a 0 reading...even a blown motor will have some....

What's there logic for the water in gas causing the CAT to overheat?

I would be very skeptical about anything they said...sounds kinda funny to me

Razz1 01-22-2008 08:27 PM

Your wires melted for the O sensors which sent bad data to the ECU and destroyed your CAT?

Ok, how does that get water into the engine and make it blow up?

I can see the Remanufactured MAF as being a problem as it controls the A/F mixture data. This will be a big issue with Mazda.

So... the MAF made the car too lean and over heat? Then cat destroy and water in engine?

Is this what you are saying?

tiltmode43 01-22-2008 08:46 PM

Seems you're posing 2 separate questions.

Yes, a bad MAF can (and usually will) lead to CAT failure (melting)

Not sure about the water in the gas situation, try to rephrase it more clearly...

uncivilracer 01-22-2008 08:54 PM

11,775 to fix the car? Holy shit just get a new ride!

Razz1 01-22-2008 08:58 PM

Or buy a new rebuilt engine from MazMart

MRPN 01-22-2008 09:27 PM

83929k. i pumped the tank and got rusty water sample which i saved. i filed complaint w/ tx atty. gen.and waiting on reply.and they never mentioned water in their analysis. i told them about the water.thats why im asking it sound like b.s. to me. the comp. test is b.s. also to me. the maf was replaced after the water problem. the cat was 5 days prior the the water.the car was running fine before i got 7 gals. gas. then just sputtered and died. there is no water in the engine just the fuel.

Keef 01-22-2008 09:50 PM

Can you post the phone number to the service department of the Mazda dealership that claimed 0 compression? I would really like to ask them how 0 compression is even possible... That doesn't make any fucking sense, please give me there phone number, they sound like there bending you over... I would love to give them a piece of my mind, I hate dealerships that treat people like idiots...

MRPN 01-22-2008 09:50 PM

11775 yea thats what i told them. i checked with mazmart already reasonable price there. the comp. test i think is b.s. my self too. cause they cant show me the #s. the wires melted are the ones that hook up to the trans. and the o2 sensors.and i dont know where water in the fuel can cause the engine to lose comp. in just one rotor.

MRPN 01-22-2008 10:11 PM

the dealer ship is gorman mccracken longview tx. PH # is 903-753-8657 tollfree is 800-256-6363. they think im stupid and for one thing to mention they sold me a shop manual the teches. use for about $200 bucks. so i know all the test they run. no im not crazy for buying the manual for that price. just wanted it being there was no warranty left on itws told just found out about the 60k extension a month ago. so they cant blow smoke up my ass for any reason on this car. is the reason i bought the manual to begin with.sorry the formatting is messing me up. the warrantyas i was told was out and i just found out bear with me here dont under stand this formating cant go back and change or correct after i finish . sorry again.

MRPN 01-22-2008 10:14 PM

if any one knows some one in the longview area get them to e-mail me @ mrp_n@yahoo.com before going there to have their car serviced please so i could warn them of their service department

MRPN 01-22-2008 10:17 PM

i will give the other mans diagnostics when he returns my call tommorrow thank every one this place is the best place on here about these cars.thanks again everyone.

nycgps 01-22-2008 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by MRPN (Post 2256635)
i took my 8 to the dealer for a diagnostics on what was wrong. note all that happened is i stoped for gas, went 1.5 miles the cel come on and was blinking. i got water in the gas. they said they did a comp. check and i had 0 comp. on the #2 rotor. the car would not run or idel,but they give me the computer read out on the codes and the temps of the cat. which got to 2700 deg.f. they could not show me the comp. readings, the service manager said the tech seen something on the diagnostics about the 0 comp.on rotor #2. is that posible ? to go on futher they said that i need a maf. which i just changed, aftermarket , they have never seen a reman. maf. from o-reilly's. and the after market cat was the reason for my failure. is this possible? and also could it be possible the melted wires that the cat overheated from the excessive fuel, be the cause of the codes of p0037rear ho2sheater control circ. low,p0171 system to lean, p0300 random misfire,p0506 i.a.c.s.rpm lower than expected,p2070, ssv stuck open,p0302, rear rotor misfire. can they determine 0 compression off of the computer read out.


Originally Posted by MRPN (Post 2256798)
the dealer ship is gorman mccracken longview tx. PH # is 903-753-8657 tollfree is 800-256-6363. they think im stupid and for one thing to mention they sold me a shop manual the teches. use for about $200 bucks. so i know all the test they run. no im not crazy for buying the manual for that price. just wanted it being there was no warranty left on itws told just found out about the 60k extension a month ago. so they cant blow smoke up my ass for any reason on this car. is the reason i bought the manual to begin with.sorry the formatting is messing me up. the warrantyas i was told was out and i just found out bear with me here dont under stand this formating cant go back and change or correct after i finish . sorry again.

First off I think they're totally BS. Unless ALL your apex seals blown which is super ultra ACME unlikely. Well actually even so u SHOULD get some compression.

But there is 2 problems tho. First, why did you get an "reman aftermarket MAF @ O'rellies"? Cuz they can really screw you over because of that. and a Original Mazda part cost about 100 something only. Which is NOT a lot IMO. and they RARELY FAIL. Why did you even change it in the first place ? Who told you that there is a failure on the original part ?

Cat melt ? Thats possible. but if its really reading 2700 degrees that means soemthing is really wrong with ur motor, there should be some early signs before that happen..

And for the Gas station pumping rusty gas. Well, you should try to go back there and get some more samples, then starts calling TV stations and stuff, they love those kind of incidents and will do everything to report it (to get audience)

and if they pull that *aftermarket cause the motor to fail* is totally fucking bs.

11700 to fix everything? how about a nice and loud *fuck that shit* to them ? a nice reman from Mazmart is about 2500~3500 depends on the core. if u really had rusty water u should really do what I've said, at least get some attention and try to get some money back.

DOMINION 01-22-2008 11:28 PM

I smell fish. Take it easy on the F bombs man ;)

laythor 01-22-2008 11:33 PM

paragraphs are your friend

Keef 01-22-2008 11:34 PM

well considering he used an "oreilly" MAF sensor... Could an engine run so lean to achieve cat temperature's of 2700????

The 0 compression is obviously bullshit.... I just don't understand why you took the risk to get some cheapo oreilly's MAF sensor... I mean, did you know this is a rotary engine? Not like those average American engines that can take a lot of generic parts, our cars are more whiny than some girls in the O.C... Have you seen how much a bitch those girls get without there Fiji water?

Also, can you tell me the guy who told you such bullshit? I mean, I will call them, but I'd rather bitch out the exact idiot who told you those lies... Not the helpless moronic front desk retard...

Edit: I can drop as many f-bombs as I want, I'm an H-town hater :)

purdyman57 01-23-2008 11:16 AM

Hey
 
2700 degrees F = roughly around 1482 C.

The SH-60 Seahawk Helicopter can't even go over 949 C, and it's a jet engine. Maybe I'm mistaken in mechanics, but I was under the impression that a jet engine always ran much hotter than a compression engine. I'd definitely ask to see a temperature read out. If it's in TX, no offense, but make sure the techs can read English. I had a few problems with language barriers down near Corpus Christi so I'd definitely suggest getting a 2nd opinion.

nycgps 01-23-2008 12:41 PM

I call it total bs because Im pretty sure the sensors will melt WAY before it hits that temp

HiTMaNN 01-23-2008 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by purdyman57 (Post 2257614)
2700 degrees F = roughly around 1482 C.

I'd definitely suggest getting a 2nd opinion.

Get a second opinion for sure cause this sounds like total BS

r0tor 01-23-2008 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by nycgps (Post 2257767)
I call it total bs because Im pretty sure the sensors will melt WAY before it hits that temp

the engine would melt before it hits that temp


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