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algoguen 05-01-2010 11:56 AM

I love this model (looks) but!!!!
 
I drive a MX-5 (2001) and had a 1990 Miata also. I have been lusting after
a RX-8 but after reading this forum and other Mazda forums have come to the
realization that the RX-8 has to many issues to suit me!!!! I will have to
buy another MX-5, more likely a PRHT newer model. I am dissapointed about
the RX-8 and I am glad I did alot of research on it before buying one. I feel
sorry for people that don't check in to this model before buying one and then
end up with the grief they are seeing.....A shame....:dunno:

mscamp02 05-01-2010 12:00 PM

^now what exactly have you found is so bad about the 8 that makes you not want to buy it?

just curious thats all

algoguen 05-01-2010 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by mscamp02 (Post 3542206)
^now what exactly have you found is so bad about the 8 that makes you not want to buy it?

just curious thats all

I got cold feet reading about the flooding problems I have read Here about.
I know its not all units but enough to worry me about letting the wife drive
it, knowing she would forget about the warming period required, for that
matter I wouldn't be surprized I would do it myself. I have to move cars around
as I have a car port here in Florida and when we need to use one car or the
other we have to shuffle cars, so they would only run 30 seconds or so. That
would cause the flooding problem with the 8. I just can't justify the chance
of problems with the amount of $$$ these thing go for! I love the looks on the
8 and again I am disappointed.

Chad D. 05-01-2010 12:07 PM

gtfo and have fun driving the miata. My 8 is 6yrs old and no majors yet.

"m dissapointed about
the RX-8 and I am glad I did alot of research on it before buying one. I feel
sorry for people that don't check in to this model before buying one and then
end up with the grief they are seeing.....A shame...."

I bought my 8 after my 7 and didn't know all the smiles i was to have. It's a shame your perception of the car is so distorted.
Thanks for sharing the fact that you belong on another mazda forum.

algoguen 05-01-2010 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Chad D. (Post 3542215)
gtfo and have fun driving the miata. My 8 is 6yrs old and no majors yet.

"m dissapointed about
the RX-8 and I am glad I did alot of research on it before buying one. I feel
sorry for people that don't check in to this model before buying one and then
end up with the grief they are seeing.....A shame...."

I bought my 8 after my 7 and didn't know all the smiles i was to have. It's a shame your perception of the car is so distorted.
Thanks for sharing the fact that you belong on another mazda forum.

I detect some sarcasm here. I love Mazda's period. I didn't come here to knock
the 8. I came here to read up about the model before putting out my $$$$ on
one. Iam glad you haven't had the problems I have been reading in your (YOUR)
forum about the 8. And like I said I also mentioned that I know that everyone
isn't having problems, but for me? I don't want the uneasy feeling of when
or where the problem was gonna if at all raise its head.....
Thanks for your reply.

mscamp02 05-01-2010 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by algoguen (Post 3542213)
I got cold feet reading about the flooding problems I have read Here about.
I know its not all units but enough to worry me about letting the wife drive
it, knowing she would forget about the warming period required, for that
matter I wouldn't be surprized I would do it myself. I have to move cars around
as I have a car port here in Florida and when we need to use one car or the
other we have to shuffle cars, so they would only run 30 seconds or so. That
would cause the flooding problem with the 8. I just can't justify the chance
of problems with the amount of $$$ these thing go for! I love the looks on the
8 and again I am disappointed.


I can understand your fear but really....flooding isnt that big of an issue, there are DIY procedures to deflood the engine and if you only have the car on for a short amount of time like 30 seconds, if you rev it to 4k-5k for a few seconds it helps to quickly burn off the excess fuel fuel that may cause flooding.

Not to mention you live in florida were most of the time out of the year your not working with a freezing cold engine which will cut down on the chance of flooding.

Last. Flooding isnt really so much the car as the driver. Now I know you said your afraid your wife would forget but to be honest ive forgot to warm it up and only move it 5 feet before with no ill side effects. Grant it Ive only put 20k or so miles on my 8 but Ive never had an issue with flooding.

At least your sticking with a mazda! so zoom zoom


EDIT:

depreciation is worse than most cars in the 8 and maintenance is a little higher (but its not bad at all). Very fun car to drive

Chad D. 05-01-2010 12:18 PM

yes sarcasm, I've never flooded a rotary engine in 13yrs.
Don't be afraid and just be educated, 8's are going for a lot less nowadays too.

algoguen 05-01-2010 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by mscamp02 (Post 3542224)
I can understand your fear but really....flooding isnt that big of an issue, there are DIY procedures to deflood the engine and if you only have the car on for a short amount of time like 30 seconds, if you rev it to 4k-5k for a few seconds it helps to quickly burn off the excess fuel fuel that may cause flooding.

Not to mention you live in florida were most of the time out of the year your not working with a freezing cold engine which will cut down on the chance of flooding.

Last. Flooding isnt really so much the car as the driver. Now I know you said your afraid your wife would forget but to be honest ive forgot to warm it up and only move it 5 feet before with no ill side effects. Grant it Ive only put 20k or so miles on my 8 but Ive never had an issue with flooding.

At least your sticking with a mazda! so zoom zoom


EDIT:

depreciation is worse than most cars in the 8 and maintenance is a little higher (but its not bad at all). Very fun car to drive

Thanks man! Yeah I agree with you. But Iam in the late 60"s (yeah Old huh?) LOL. I just can't worry about the reliability problem. I would feel nervous
everytime I went to start the car. I wish I could find away around that
feeling, cause like I said, I love the looks or the car. I have test driven one,
The Salesmen never mentions the flooding problem until I questioned him about
it. He also said its an isolated problem, but again a reliability (security) feeling
I would always have in the back of my mind.


Edit:

I will keep reading this forum and when I am ready, before I drop the hammer on another Miata I will drive another 8 and after
some more miles on the lastest model * might feel more easy about the 8. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Chad D. 05-01-2010 12:22 PM

If you're that old what's your hurry, let it idle for 3-5 mins rev it and turn it off. very simple

algoguen 05-01-2010 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Chad D. (Post 3542231)
If you're that old what's your hurry, let it idle for 3-5 mins rev it and turn it off. very simple

I've thought of that, and your right, from what I have read that is a procedure
that seems to help. My concern is(again old age)a brain fart would cause me
or the wife to forget the warm up period and then BANG there's the problem.
We travel the Country a lot, visiting the Kids (46 and 47, yeah Kids LOL) and
just can't take a chance.
I had the same problem with wanting a XK8 Jag. I was gonna get one of
those until I read about all the problems they have. and they aren't cheap
to fix. So I guess as long as I can still Zoom Zoom I will at least stay with
Mazda for the foreseeable future.
Thanks for your response, I appreciate your input. Its made it interesting. :ylsuper:

algoguen 05-01-2010 12:39 PM

I just read a Post about "Owners still feeling the Love" and a lot of long time owners
that have had great luck with their units. I am so torn about this. I think if I test drive
another 8 I will be hooked and just roll the dice....... We'll see! LOL If I get in another one
it will probable do the trick. Heheheh

Chad D. 05-01-2010 12:42 PM

fyi, highway cuising 8's seem to have the highest mileage by far w/o blowing up.

nate340 05-01-2010 12:47 PM

every car has issues if you look deep enough. i assure you the 8 isnt as fragile as it may seem. i track mine and beaten on it for over a 100 000km. i have never had an issue i couldnt fix with a quick read on this forum. dont let little things ruin your enjoyment. but that said if you plan on getting an automatic rx8 prob best you did just get a miata.

bse50 05-01-2010 12:49 PM

Don't worry about flooding, do the right maintenance and you'll be more than satisfied with your rx8.

algoguen 05-01-2010 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by nate340 (Post 3542252)
every car has issues, if you look deep enough. i assure you the 8 isnt as fragile as it may seem. i track mine and beat on it for over a 100 000km i have never had an issue i couldnt fix with a quick read on this forum. dont let little things ruin your enjoyment. but that said if you plan on getting an automatic rx8 prob best you did just get a miata.

Thanks for the advice. Yeah I was thinking on an Automatic. I like the
Paddle shifters. My Miata is a 5 speed, but I have been thinking of an
auto Mazda cause of the paddle shifters.:dunno:

nate340 05-01-2010 01:25 PM

just my personal thoughts do not get a rx8 in an auto takes all the fun out of the high reving motor. an NB miata 5sp will be faster and use way less fuel than an auto rx8. make sure you test drive a manual and an auto and make your own mind up.


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