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Old 02-16-2005, 10:28 AM
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i also get that GRIND from 4th to 5th. sometimes at 3rd !!!!!!!!! =( and its getting worse
Old 02-17-2005, 09:34 AM
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Well, the trans showed up on Wed. around noon. So they said I would be able to pick up my 8 this afternoon. :D I can't wait.
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Picked her up at 1:00pm and it is alot better. The trans. feels more solid, it might be that it is new, and needs to be broke in. No more grind in the downshift to 5th. :D
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Originally Posted by xrider
I know this is an old thread, but I wanted to see if the original poster had his problem fixed. I have 8600miles on my 8 and am having the same problem, anytime I shift from 6th to 5th I get a grind I feel in the shifter. Regardless if I downshift fast or slow it grinds. This is around 60-70mph, about 4k-4.5krpm. Now, if I am in 6th and let the car slow down to 50-55mph and downshift to 5th it doesn't grind but still feels alittle sticky going into 5th. Anyway, I have an appointement Wed. to have the dealer look at it. Installing a RB flywheel wouldn't cause this would it? I had it installed at the dealer but it started to happen several thousand miles after that.
Identical problem is occurring to me now: downshift from 5th from 6th and a grind I feel in the shifter. Very pissed off.

I guess I have to go get it checked out.
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Identical problem is occurring to me now: downshift from 5th from 6th and a grind I feel in the shifter. Very pissed off.

I guess I have to go get it checked out.
OKay, Tranny is out and they said that the syncro for 5th was no good and they are replacing it. The ****** mechanic was looking at parts and reading a manual then looking at the case over and over again

He can't even figure out how the case comes apart and he's going to fix my transmission???? I sense I'm going to get the shaft big time from these guys and I'll be back there in 2 days with the RX8 in tow. I can almost guarantee this won't work with this money working on it. At least if it breaks again, I'm going to insist ona new transmission.


Update tomorrow night to follow.
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Can't say that I have ever experienced that challenge.

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Originally Posted by Shamblerock
OKay, Tranny is out and they said that the syncro for 5th was no good and they are replacing it. The ****** mechanic was looking at parts and reading a manual then looking at the case over and over again

He can't even figure out how the case comes apart and he's going to fix my transmission???? I sense I'm going to get the shaft big time from these guys and I'll be back there in 2 days with the RX8 in tow. I can almost guarantee this won't work with this money working on it. At least if it breaks again, I'm going to insist ona new transmission.


Update tomorrow night to follow.

Are you kidding? Your dealer is that inept with the car? Man, I normally would not make this suggestion, but I think you might want to send an e-mail to Mazda about that.

It is one thing to have the tranny go out, but it is quite another for the Service Tec not to know how to handle the needed repair.
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the problem is most techs aren't trained well enough to overhaul a transmission. IMO it's a big mistake on Mazda's part to not be sending them off to be swapped out by an official rebuilt center the way most manufacturers do.

It ends up breaking again and then the dealership claims you are abusing the car, just wait and see ...

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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
the problem is most techs aren't trained well enough to overhaul a transmission. IMO it's a big mistake on Mazda's part to not be sending them off to be swapped out by an official rebuilt center the way most manufacturers do.

It ends up breaking again and then the dealership claims you are abusing the car, just wait and see ...
You are bang on. I agree with you 100%. I'll give them a fair chance to get it fixed properly by tomorrow as they promised. If they delay or same/other problems surface, I can promise you it won't be a pretty site when I go back there. If they fix it properly, I guarantee you I will promote their competence to other RX8 members.

Until tomorrow....
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I would not recommend speed shifting this transmission unless you are intentionally trying to spin all the 2nd gear teeth off the countershaft
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Originally Posted by TR1GGERx1
yeah i understand but b4 i could do it np. even chirping. but now... can'tt
Your "b4" activity may have bent or broken a shift fork in which case it may or may not be covered under warranty. That will depend on how the dealers' service people view the damage. If they conclude that the damage was caused by abuse, you will likely have to pay the repair bill yourself.
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you have to disassemble the entire transmission to reach the 1-2 shift fork, you may be one of these:

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...&postcount=167

however, no 2nd gear at all with bad metal sounds in all the other gears is a lot worse (and expen$ive) than 2nd gear synchro grinding, just speaking from direct experience mind you, it ill only take it so many times and then POW, consider yourself warned

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I can't beleive it but the dealer fixed the car perectly on the first try. When he was staring at the manual and all the bolts and bearings scattered accross his work bench, I thought for sure I was going to have to wage war with them. So it feels really good at this early stage. I am truly quite impressed with the jon they did.

The clutch even feels different in that its smoother and the gears feel like they have a revived spring action into each gear slot. It actually feels like a brand new transmission and clutch. I'll let you know if it screws up, but for the time being its great. :p
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Originally Posted by TR1GGERx1
im having issues if i speed shift into 1st to 2nd.... it holds me back.. anyone else? driving "normally" im fine . but still..
Do you mean power shifting (without a clutch) or shifting quickly using the clutch but your floored? Sorry, not familiar with the term "speed shifting" up here in Canada.
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edited, my bad, not the same thing

speed shifting = shifting without using the clutch

power shifting = shifting without lifting off the gas

I'm not sure which one he meant now, but either one will f--- this transmission up

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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
speed shifting = power shifting

same thing

Power shifting=not lifting on gas
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yeah, my bad, I edited the post above
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Originally Posted by TR1GGERx1
sorry wut i meant was flooring shifitng using clutch. just my 2nd gear does this... it holds me back. won't let me put it in. shifting normally is fine... grr... i might have to take it to mazda and get this checked out. but wondering how much it might be. EEEK

You are in bad need of my shift kit. See the RP short shifter thread. There are three so look at the one that says installed, or read all three. Then see my website at: www.axialflow.com
Cure your needs pronto.

OOps, just read your prior posts. My product will not repair your trans once you have broken it. It will help you shift better once you fix what you have already done. I still beleive that you might take the advice of TeamRx8 and refrain from this type of abuse. Learn to shift quickly using proper shifting style. A syncro box cannot be shifted like a dog ring race style box. If you insist on doing this then have the gearbox rebuilder file every other tooth off the syncros. This will help you shift faster. It also weakens the syncro itself and shortens it's life. It's tit for tat, get what you pay for.

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