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Old 09-21-2005, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by two rotors
Mazda supplied data showed a temperature difference on shutdown of 302F between water cooling and only oil cooling.Given that oil fries easily you can see the necessity for very careful temperature management.
Are you sure it's a 302F temperature difference? Synthetic oil has a burn point around 450F.

For what it's worth, under normal driving my water temp reads 190F and my oil temp in the pan is 140F. If in fact the oil returning from the turbo was 300F+ I would expect to see random spikes and fluctuations in the oil temp as the hotter turbo oil mixed unevenly with the colder engine oil. Given that is not the case I suspect your hypothesis is incorrect.
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1.It is not hypothesis--I merely shared with you data PROVIDED by Mazda.
2.I fyou examine the graph you will see that there is NO difference when the engine is running.The difference occurs AFTER the engine is SHUT OFF.Now when I shut off my engine no oil flows and no coolant flows(other than small flows due to gravity and temperature differences(ie hot water rises and cool water sinks.
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Originally Posted by two rotors
2.I fyou examine the graph you will see that there is NO difference when the engine is running.The difference occurs AFTER the engine is SHUT OFF.
In order to examine a graph I'd need to see it first. Note you posted the graph less than a minute before I posted my response. I was still typing my response when you posted it. In your original post you said "temperature difference on shutdown". Now you've clarified that to after shutdown. Big difference.
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Old 09-21-2005, 06:30 PM
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i think everyone reading this should call greddy tomorrow and ask them about there warrantees on there products. if they say they dont have one, then ask them why they dont stand behind their products and that you should probably buy x companies instead. if they do tell you they have a warrantee, ask them to email you it, and send it to our friend here then he can call them and say he has written consent of a warantee. i was getting a greddy exhaust next week, but now i will buy an RB if they wont warrantee their stuff
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OK I will have my lawyer check all my future post.
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Originally Posted by youpey
i think everyone reading this should call greddy tomorrow and ask them about there warrantees on there products. if they say they dont have one, then ask them why they dont stand behind their products and that you should probably buy x companies instead. if they do tell you they have a warrantee, ask them to email you it, and send it to our friend here then he can call them and say he has written consent of a warantee. i was getting a greddy exhaust next week, but now i will buy an RB if they wont warrantee their stuff
My point exactly! Thanks! Please do!

I am researching my choices, guess since they will not stand behind their product I will have to pay for a new turbo, rebuilt one, or upgraded one like mazsport is doing. But either way, I will never buy anything greddy again. They have really stuck me hard.

Btw, my oil temps usually ran around 180 and on hot days reached 210. is that too hot or typical?

thanks guys, i will keep ya posted.

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btw, please everyone email or call them and express your feelings! might not help me but maybe someone else!
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If you bought it from MazdaPArts.com than any thing that you think is a bad Greddy part you need to send to me with your invoce. I will sendit to Greddy and get them to make the call. They will not do anything without the part. I have a Guy in Greece that has a Cracked Exhaust manafold out of the box! Same deal. He has to send it back to me so i can send it to Greddy.. I dont like that way of doing things , but thats the Greddy way.
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did you buy it with visa????

they have coverage for almost everything you buy.

i have used it once. some paperwork, but well worth it.

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btw, please everyone email or call them and express your feelings! might not help me but maybe someone else!
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check this out zoom zoom, it says clearly right here warranty 1 year with the greddy turbo kit. http://www.turbo-kits.com/rx-8_turbo_kits.html. Maybe i'm being an idiot and that warranty comes from turbo-kits.com, but it sure looks like it's a greddy warranty to me. hope it helps.
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With a turbo, the crank case is under pressure. If you have a catch can, make sure the line running from your oil fill to the catch can is not blocked. If it is, there is nowhere from the pressure to release. This will cause oil from the turbo to leak both into the exhaust and into your intake system. Check your BOV if you have one for excessive oil. If it's there, that's your culprit.
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Thanks philodox, I thought about that too but the turbo itself looks bad, the compressor wheel moves and actually touches the housing, which I think is way too much play. The turbo is in michigan now at bullseyepower waiting for nick there to assess it so I will keep you all posted. But if anyone else has the troubles I have, check that first or you will be wasting lots of money

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Originally Posted by zoomzoom_8
I MISS MY 8!
Given the turbo is off the car, couldn't you reattach the stock airbox and exhaust manifold to make the car drivable again? Forgive my ignorance but while it takes a lot of work to get everything installed, it doesn't seem like it would take that much to make it drivable sans turbo.
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way more to it than that.

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Originally Posted by swoope
way more to it than that.

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Not much more.
Like PUR NRG said...
Install stock intake (you'd have to remove piping to the airnix filter and piping to the throttle body.)
Remove exhuast manifold and put stock one back on.

plus.....
Cap off the oilpan drain
Cap off the oil supply line that was going to the turbo
Plug the intake manifold nipples.
That should do it.

You can leave the intercooler and emanage alone (it won't see boost so it shouldn't affect anything).

I'm guessing zoomzoom8 has a second car.
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:02 PM
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I've taken the whole kit off once and put it on twice -=on jackstands=-.The second time around, the install was about 6 hours. You could save a little time by leaving the intercooler in place, but everything else has to go. I checked into a new turbine housing for the GReddy. Nobody, I mean NO BODY has this thing, or has even heard of it. Parts for it will have to come on board a ship from the Land of the Rising Sun. You're in it for the long haul if you need a new part. I'd say, wait for the diagnosis. If you need a new housing or bearing, etc., then go ahead and put it back to stock for the 2 months that you will be waiting.
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Yea i could put go back n/a, but don't really feel like doing the work, that is no fun after you have been turbo. Got a second car and no, it is not fun to drive at all, a SUV.

God, i hope you are wrong maddog I have not heard bck from my guys yet on the turbo, I was hoping to be back on the road by mid october!
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i still cant believe greddy wouldnt warantee this, especially since this is on their site
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At GReddy we take our image seriously and back our products with a real warranty you can count on. In most cases, after examination of the item we will elect to give you a complete new product as opposed to repairing a defective one. We do this for two reasons, first of all to make you a completely satisfied customer, and secondly and warranty items are fully examined to find the cause of a defect and if necessary make running changes to the product line in the future. This is why GReddy maintains one of the lowest warranty claims percentage in the industry.
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I believe the installation instructions have a statement that says ( and I quote) "You are totally f*cked if anything goes wrong. This product has no warranty at all. We are screwing you. Bend over."
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Originally Posted by youpey
i still cant believe greddy wouldnt warantee this, especially since this is on their site
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At GReddy we take our image seriously and back our products with a real warranty you can count on. In most cases, after examination of the item we will elect to give you a complete new product as opposed to repairing a defective one. We do this for two reasons, first of all to make you a completely satisfied customer, and secondly and warranty items are fully examined to find the cause of a defect and if necessary make running changes to the product line in the future. This is why GReddy maintains one of the lowest warranty claims percentage in the industry.
Easy to have lowest number of warranty claims if you dismiss all warranty claims
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i emailed them asking about a warantee and it bounced back. anyone have an email address other then info@greddy.com
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See if you cant get a different garrett turbo to fit. I thought there was talk of another size turbo that fit pretty well.
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Take them to court if they don't replace it!
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i would love to take them to court but for the $1100 i am spending on getting a custom built replacement turbo there is no way i would come out cheaper, they just get off free an d i have to pay.

my guys are working on the turbo, i will post the specs on here as soon as i get them so everyone can have a chance at this turbo, it sounds pretty awesome so far


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