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Old Feb 28, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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its an 06, i tryed to flood it many ways, there was this one time it was a little hard to start but after about 4 sec it started
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8SaxMan
Interesting, I was just about to post that I've been having constant hard starts since my flood. I used to have the occasional hard start, but now it is every time. Could it be that I wore out my starter from all the cranking I did to get it going, or do you think it's a problem with the engine? It seems to run fine once it's started, though.
The dealer just fried my starter and wants me to pay for it.

They have yet to get it started and seems ignorant to TSBs on the flooding issues.

I had to fax them the TSB to replace the started.

In the end, I am expecting a blown motor. Right now I am just trying to avoid a fight over who will pay for the starter.

Good news. Starter will be paid for by the dealer.

Last edited by rotary magic; Mar 11, 2009 at 01:28 PM.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ferg
its an 06, i tryed to flood it many ways, there was this one time it was a little hard to start but after about 4 sec it started
It depends on what "many ways" means. To properly test it, you need to give it one cold start and turn it off immediately without revving the motor. The leave it overnight.

I expect that the excess petrol remaining will dissolve the oil in the seals, and you won't have enough compression when you try to start next day - (just my impression of the problem).

If you test this, be prepared for getting it going again just in case - eg a serious jump start with a smoking starter motor, or a clutch start.

Recently I'v just been revving the motor to 6,000 RPM three times for about 10 seconds each before turning off - ok so far.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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Angry Remote Start

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Get a remote engine starter !

I have it intalled on my current car that is an automatic transmission and have been extremely happy with it for over a year now. Great for winter as you can have your car warmed up before you actually go out and drive off. It shuts off after 10 minutes automatically, which I think is enough to bring the engine to optimum operating temprature. I hardly ever crank up the engine manually now. I love this thing!

Don't know whether it can be installed in a manual transmission car (like u must leave the car in Neutral everytime). Does anyone one have it on a manual?

More importantly, has anyone tried to install one on their manual transmission RX-8?
I have one installed on my manual. Yes, it works. You have to disable the clutch safety switch. But.!.!.!.... I did leave it in gear once (hate to admit to this) and it ran into a tree, cracking the nose cone.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by laserjock
I have one installed on my manual. Yes, it works. You have to disable the clutch safety switch. But.!.!.!.... I did leave it in gear once (hate to admit to this) and it ran into a tree, cracking the nose cone.
I don't understand why you need a remote starter. Don't you just start it and drive away? I always do. Perhaps you live in an extremely cold climate - eg less than 10 degC (50F) in winter.
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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my car flooded for the first time. is an 04. my dad help parked my car from the drive way in to the garage and this morning it didnt start.

gonna bring a jumper cable back home later and just keep dranking it.

anyone know a better way?

i tired alot things, even unplug the fuel fuse. and it helps a lil bit but still no go.
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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While my car was at the body shop getting fixed, they flooded my engine.

OR SO THEY THOUGHT. After failing to pull start it, I knew something else was wrong. Upon closer inspection, it turned out that they had failed to reconnect my Interceptor-X back to the battery. Cord was just hanging there
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rhjames
I don't understand why you need a remote starter. Don't you just start it and drive away? I always do. Perhaps you live in an extremely cold climate - eg less than 10 degC (50F) in winter.
Yea it is a bit colder here than Sydney... In a snow storm it's nice to have
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by the stig
my car flooded for the first time. is an 04. my dad help parked my car from the drive way in to the garage and this morning it didnt start.

gonna bring a jumper cable back home later and just keep dranking it.

anyone know a better way?

i tired alot things, even unplug the fuel fuse. and it helps a lil bit but still no go.

When you are cranking it hold your foot down on the gas peddle. If your plugs aren't fouled it should start.
Good luck
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by the stig
my car flooded for the first time. is an 04. my dad help parked my car from the drive way in to the garage and this morning it didnt start.

gonna bring a jumper cable back home later and just keep dranking it.

anyone know a better way?

i tired alot things, even unplug the fuel fuse. and it helps a lil bit but still no go.
I'm tipping he didn't give it a good rev before turning off.

You can read all the posts here, but what it boils down to is probably 4 options.

1. Pull the fuel fuse and do of cranks, then put the fuse in and try again. Don't touch the accelerator (though logic tells me to put foot to the floor while cranking when the fuse is out). Expect the starter to get pretty hot. Make sure you have plenty of amps available - add another battery with car running using jumper leads.

2. Clutch start if manual. (Many posts here rell of good success with this)

3. Remove spark plugs and inject engine oil to improve the compression (never tried it myself.

4. Take it to the dealer.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by laserjock
When you are cranking it hold your foot down on the gas peddle. If your plugs aren't fouled it should start.
Good luck
a buddy of mine did the same thing.....decided to start the car up and move it to a different spot..... we just did a push start and all good.


Good Luck!!!



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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/deflooded-removing-fuel-pump-fuse-139571/

It helps to hold the Accelerator....
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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I have a 2004 Mazda RX8, for the first time I flooded my engine. I did the procedures the manual told me to do and now the car is driving normal. Am I good now or is there something I should?
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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My engine flooded like a week and a half ago. Now its at the dealer and im getting a whole new engine...
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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A non-empirical observation, but at a glance it appears the lower the post count the higher the incidence of flooding.

Nary a flood for me and my '05.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Huey52
A non-empirical observation, but at a glance it appears the lower the post count the higher the incidence of flooding.

Nary a flood for me and my '05.
I am sure many people who flood join this forum soon after to learn more about the car they have angered.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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That is insane! I contacted the Mazda dealership and they told me I would be fine. What kind of symptons did you get after a week?
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Old Mar 30, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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Cool 8 randomly cut off

today i was driving the 8 and i notice that at one point when i step on the gas i wasnt going as fast or picking up speed, then i shut off on me on the road. do any one know why this might happen.?
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Old Mar 31, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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I am not sure but did you run out of gas?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by roched
I am not sure but did you run out of gas?
Or oil?
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by stx0174
today i was driving the 8 and i notice that at one point when i step on the gas i wasnt going as fast or picking up speed, then i shut off on me on the road. do any one know why this might happen.?

Exact same thing happened to me last week. Was having problems starting of late (sometimes partially flooding engine i reckon cos pressing the accelerator trick got me out of it). Noticed the car suddenly picked up speed soon after starting - almost a quick yank or jerk. After 10 -15 mins of perfect driving she just lost all power and wanted to stall. MAnaged to coast to my destination though. Got her serviced (45,000 miles and was just due), new spark plugs etc and everyting seemed great. They also put in a good will request for a modified starter system and battery which is available. While i was waiting on them confirming they would contribute towards it, same thing happened again only more dificult to start and was getting vibrations - suggesting lot of unburned fuel in chamber perhaps. They looked at it again and turns out the catalytic converter is pretty much destroyed.

Not sure if the cat problem is a cause or effect of the problems starting - might have damaged it over a period of time with poor starting, I don't know. They are definitely related though - I reckon the lambda sensor in the damaged cat was probably confusing the engine management system.

Anyone any thoughts on all this?

As of today mazda are contributing 70% towards parts and labour for new cat and starter system. Total cost would have been €3000 plus but now under €1000. Car is just over 5 years old and out of warranty so am pretty happy

in summary stx0174, maybe have your cat checked...hope it's ok!
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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i took my 8 to the dealer yesterday n they said that the stater is bad...then they call me n say that the batterie is dead.i dont really know wat the cat is but i will find out and get it check.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 04:35 PM
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no..i had my oil changed n i had my tank full on friday
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Thanks alot for the tip, I am definetely going to take a look at it. Hope all goes well with your RX8 man.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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2004 MT, wouldn't start today!!! occured when i moved my car in to the drive way and turned it off without letting it warm up, first thought it was the battery, jumped it nothing, did not want to flood it more than wat it was soo it was towed away to a mazda dealership, thank good i go that extended warranty
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