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shadycrew31 04-10-2012 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Bladecutter (Post 4235387)
Get a compression test.

If your "rotory specialist" can't take the time to look at the condition of your convertor, and properly inspect your car, I wouldn't believe anything else he said about the car at all.

Go get a compression test.

BC.

Shes on an island... I imagine there aren't too many places to take your car...

sweetfa 04-10-2012 02:21 PM

Gut the cat - I did it back in November, relatively easy job and a much happier car for it !

Brettus 04-10-2012 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4235470)
Shes on an island... I imagine there aren't too many places to take your car...

:lol: oh man !!!!!

sweetfa 04-10-2012 04:14 PM

Well Brettus - Thankfully we can take the harbour bridge to the land of Aus

shadycrew31 04-10-2012 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by sweetfa (Post 4235615)
Well Brettus - Thankfully we can take the harbour bridge to the land of Aus

Another Island!!!

trolololol.

I'm just jealous don't mind me...

rotagirl 04-10-2012 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by sweetfa (Post 4235494)
Gut the cat - I did it back in November, relatively easy job and a much happier car for it !

This, I would love to do but my no.1 mechanic seems to think that I'd need an after market ecu??? Cause the o2 sensor would get wrong readings? If I could do it easily and cheaply I'd be keen as but again, I'm an old car chick and know -zilch- about computers and any of that kind of crap so I don't really want to fiddle with things I don't know about.
Any info I can get would be greatly appreciated, cause I'd rather not try and haggle with the dealer if I can whip it up myself. That and the fact that I think I might die if I have to drive the skyline any more :icon_no2: there's no snot!

AAAAAAAnd for the snide remarks about my island... :lol: yeah sometimes I wish I lived in japan :eyetwitch

NZ is great :)

shadycrew31 04-10-2012 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4235680)
This, I would love to do but my no.1 mechanic seems to think that I'd need an after market ecu??? Cause the o2 sensor would get wrong readings? If I could do it easily and cheaply I'd be keen as but again, I'm an old car chick and know -zilch- about computers and any of that kind of crap so I don't really want to fiddle with things I don't know about.
Any info I can get would be greatly appreciated, cause I'd rather not try and haggle with the dealer if I can whip it up myself. That and the fact that I think I might die if I have to drive the skyline any more :icon_no2: there's no snot!

AAAAAAAnd for the snide remarks about my island... :lol: yeah sometimes I wish I lived in japan :eyetwitch

NZ is great :)

Your mechanic knows nothing about the RX-8's. The 02 sensor post cat measures heat only, yes you will trigger an 02 fault but since that sensor does jack shit it doesn't matter. 70% of the members on here have a cat delete or have gutted their cat. The only 02 sensor that matters is pre-cat and is attached to the header.

rotagirl 04-10-2012 06:56 PM

Ok, did a quick peek into some threads. Seems my only issue will be a CEL? So the engine light will just stay on, but no adverse effect to the car? Spoke to my mechanic, he's not keen on the idea. Along the lines of 'yeah and what happens if you actually get a CEL but don't recognise it cause the lights always on?' (A good point I guess) also, I thought, if I have any further mech issues, this will void what puny warranty I have, would it not? NZ doesn't have emissions standard yet though and if it doesn't actually effect the car? I don't know, I just want the damn thing on the road. I'm also risking a very knobbish affect of having a loud exhaust on an auto :squint: the car already has an aftermarket exhaust and is pretty roudy.... hmmmmmm.... whats a few more stares??? :uhh:

shadycrew31 04-10-2012 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4235706)
Ok, did a quick peek into some threads. Seems my only issue will be a CEL? So the engine light will just stay on, but no adverse effect to the car? Spoke to my mechanic, he's not keen on the idea. Along the lines of 'yeah and what happens if you actually get a CEL but don't recognise it cause the lights always on?' (A good point I guess) also, I thought, if I have any further mech issues, this will void what puny warranty I have, would it not? NZ doesn't have emissions standard yet though and if it doesn't actually effect the car? I don't know, I just want the damn thing on the road. I'm also risking a very knobbish affect of having a loud exhaust on an auto :squint: the car already has an aftermarket exhaust and is pretty roudy.... hmmmmmm.... whats a few more stares??? :uhh:

Any other Cel you would have will either flash (misfire), or you will feel the car fall on its face.

ultimately its your call, a new cat from Mazda is in the $800 usd range. If I'm not mistaken.

RX8pwnage 04-10-2012 07:32 PM

buy a ScangaugeII from ebay or something. It will read and clear CELs for you, as well as give you other gauge readouts. When the p0420 cel comes up (i think thats the cat delete cel) every few hundred miles, just clear it with the scangaugeII. Its cheap, it reads CELs, and does other neat things too. I use one.

Brettus 04-10-2012 10:11 PM

O lot of early JDM models don't even get a cel !!!!

I say gut it - then see where you are at - unless of course someone else is paying for a new one for you .

ShellDude 04-10-2012 10:55 PM

wow, she scared off Team... that's a first!

rotagirl 05-03-2012 06:42 PM

Gaahh this has taken a long time to sort. So after a mish-mash of events and my mechanic getting on the blower to the dealer, the beastie got picked up last week to get repaired. Picking her up tonight. I'll take it in to my mechanic next week to check out the work done and see what the go is but fingers crossed, she'll be all good now... touch wood. God I can't wait to drive it again :lol:

shadycrew31 05-03-2012 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4255337)
touch wood.

That means something completely different in the states...

We say knock on wood.

:lol:

rotagirl 05-03-2012 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4255365)
That means something completely different in the states...

We say knock on wood.

:lol:


:D: Hahaha well I'm very sorry NZ lingo stirs up filthy American minds

shadycrew31 05-03-2012 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4255521)
:D: Hahaha well I'm very sorry NZ lingo stirs up filthy American minds

Plz... we are saints compared to Aussie men... Literally the most horniest men I've ever hung out with. Anywhere we went he was all about finding women and hitting on anything with beewbs in the most raunchy way.

rotagirl 05-03-2012 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4255525)
Plz... we are saints compared to Aussie men... Literally the most horniest men I've ever hung out with. Anywhere we went he was all about finding women and hitting on anything with beewbs in the most raunchy way.

Was he from the outback? He may have only seen sheep for a while........
:lol::lol::lol: bloody aussies

shadycrew31 05-03-2012 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4255532)
Was he from the outback? He may have only seen sheep for a while........
:lol::lol::lol: bloody aussies

Nah Sydney...

ShellDude 05-04-2012 12:08 AM

omg... touch wood! i love it!!!!

Brettus 05-04-2012 12:36 AM

haha - never thought of that interpretation of the saying . It's used here all the time !

shadycrew31 05-04-2012 12:39 AM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4255560)
haha - never thought of that interpretation of the saying . It's used here all the time !

Hence why y'all are giant pervs!!! it must be a one rotary shop island thing...

Bonesy 05-06-2012 10:41 AM

Just to try and ease your mind a bit,i bought one with warm start problem...£1000 which i thought no sorry think it was a bargain! Bought a new starter,got compression tested and happy to say nearly 8bar per rotor.Being an 04 model in the UK it still had the original coils and starter! Replaced those and BAM she fired up.I now have a fuel pump problem though,The way i see it i still have £3000 to spend before i get to the point of spending so much it would be deemed as a write off.
Hopefully you don't have low compression but i would start with the cheapest fix and work my way up.
BTW I paid £60 for my 4 GENUINE Mazda coils from ebay,Even took them to Mazda to see if they were in fact genuine which they confirmed they are :-)

rotagirl 05-07-2012 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Bonesy (Post 4257136)
Just to try and ease your mind a bit,i bought one with warm start problem...£1000 which i thought no sorry think it was a bargain! Bought a new starter,got compression tested and happy to say nearly 8bar per rotor.Being an 04 model in the UK it still had the original coils and starter! Replaced those and BAM she fired up.I now have a fuel pump problem though,The way i see it i still have £3000 to spend before i get to the point of spending so much it would be deemed as a write off.
Hopefully you don't have low compression but i would start with the cheapest fix and work my way up.
BTW I paid £60 for my 4 GENUINE Mazda coils from ebay,Even took them to Mazda to see if they were in fact genuine which they confirmed they are :-)

Cheers, think I might try this route. So far I've had to do all the legwork for the dealer, so I think I might just cut my losses and fix the f*#@ing thing myself. The cat has infact been replaced (with a second hand one) and still not much improvement. I quickly got a scan tool run over it today and it came back- P0076- intake valve control solenoid, bank 1, circuit low. Thoughts? Cause I have no idea what that is :uhh: My mechanic suggested starter motor. He thinks I may be expecting too much but if a 75 datsun and a 92 skyline can start on a button, I think an 05 rx8 should be able to do it with a turn of the key as opposed to sitting at a gas station cranking for 20sec+

rotagirl 05-10-2012 07:23 PM

VDI solenoid? I don't have a manual and I've tried searching for this but nothing has made sense. Should I take the car off the road again??? I was under the impression that this code would have something to do with the ssv but aparently not :dunno: I don't even know if this has anything to do with my hot starting or wether this is a new problem altogether... 'sigh' :rolleyes:

Brettus 05-10-2012 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4260908)
VDI solenoid? I don't have a manual and I've tried searching for this but nothing has made sense. Should I take the car off the road again??? I was under the impression that this code would have something to do with the ssv but aparently not :dunno: I don't even know if this has anything to do with my hot starting or wether this is a new problem altogether... 'sigh' :rolleyes:

VDI valve is for high rpm operation only - it should be fixed but it isn't anything to do with hot starting issues .

Suggest you look back at the first few posts in this thread and go over the suggestions made by experienced rx8 owners and forget what your mechanic is telling you . BTW . If you had checked out my starter motor speed thread months back you would know if that was it or not .


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