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shadycrew31 02-10-2012 07:11 PM

Shes not wearing overalls... in that pic...

Thats just a cowgirl!! $15 says shes form Texas.

fuztupnz 02-10-2012 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by shadycrew31 (Post 4186824)
Shes not wearing overalls... in that pic...

Thats just a cowgirl!! $15 says shes form Texas.

http://static.tumblr.com/nv5z8ec/QiT...e-accepted.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eg2I5vDRaW...s1600/Both.jpg

rotagirl 02-11-2012 04:23 AM

:rollinglaOh lovely:rollingla
Missing the shit and gummies. I'm also not blonde or brunette, and I'm missing the smoking hot bod.
I love how mens imaginations take them on such wee fantasies. :rollingla
I'm gunna show my workmate these, she'll wet herself laughing!!! Brilliant

fuztupnz 02-11-2012 06:18 AM

:rofl:

You're really trying to test my google abilities.

brb

:fruit:





srsly though. Glad things are looking up for you and the car, and good luck getting the hot start sorted out.

RX8pwnage 02-11-2012 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4185630)
I'm here to LEARN and sort out my car, not to listen to shit from egotistic wankers! :mad:

HAHAH she called Team an egotistic wanker! I found this hilarious

slvrstreak 02-11-2012 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4185015)
I like the whine of a supercharger.


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4186786)
I'm a farmer, so basically overalls, gumboots and plenty of cowshit :wavey:

my kind of girl ;)

200.mph 02-11-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by slvrstreak (Post 4187089)
my kind of girl ;)

is she colered in wool?

swoope 02-12-2012 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4186786)
I'm a farmer, so basically overalls, gumboots and plenty of cowshit :wavey:
try sex that up.... fool

wow,

farmer with no common sense, dont believe that! but i joke brettus and you answer in a forum! well you screwed you self!!!! :lol:

anyway,

you will get great answers here between the pics and comments. i would mention the regional forum section. the aussi section is very helpful.

there is also a rx8 aussi site. i am a member there but have not been paying attention for a long while.. lots, and lots of info.

brettus knows is stuff. i am pretty good at the stuff that tends to break on the rx8, but specialize in the odd and obscure..

pm is good.

sorry about where the thread went!

beers :beer:

Kevin McMahon 02-13-2012 08:24 AM

I just went through hot starting issues myself on an 05 with 65k miles and 40 on the engine, previous owner got new motor at 25k. At first cold starting was fine, but if it was not sitting for a couple hours, hot starting was very labored or not happening at all. Took it to the dealer, they said plugs coils and wires. Bought them myself, sure enough 2 of the plugs were sparking through, but still starting issues.

Finally just bought a remanufactured starter, took the old one out, which happened the be the one they released the tech service bulletin for, and now shes good as new.

I bought non mazda parts and replaced all of those things for around $400 usd. If you bought all those parts in genuine mazda form, thats more like 7-800. the only things that were oem that I bought were the spark plugs, everything else was not. Many people on the forums seemed to have tried the non oem stuff and have had good luck.

Supercharging gets expensive(last time I looked its between 4-7000) and obviously you have a few other things to take care of first. Good luck with getting it going properly, and hopefully it does not take too much.

rotagirl 02-13-2012 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by swoope (Post 4187885)
wow,

farmer with no common sense, dont believe that! but i joke brettus and you answer in a forum! well you screwed you self!!!! :lol:

:lol: I'm unconcerned, I just found it really funny in the first place considering Brettus is older than my dad :cwm27:

Getting back on topic, car declining fast now, did some jobs in town yesterday and had to give up and park the girl up and walk. Very embarrassing episode at the gas station where she refused to start for 15 minutes. A number of concerned citizens came and asked me if I knew what I was doing :dunno:
Another small matter of having no idea what oil is in it as it doesn't say on the service sticker so will be doing an oil change today (sigh) the garage in town I was counting on to test my bits and bobs were too busy so that'll happen next week. So, the tramp is going to be popped in the garage and I'll have to get the skyline out again.
Have got the most awefull feeling it's something sinister as I've noticed a noise akin to noisy tappits. Don't know yet what it means for a rotary but am sure it's not good.
On the plus, still love her when she's going, still the best car I've ever owned and I'm certainly a few grand away from giving up just yet!

rotagirl 02-13-2012 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin McMahon (Post 4188078)
I just went through hot starting issues myself on an 05 with 65k miles and 40 on the engine, previous owner got new motor at 25k. At first cold starting was fine, but if it was not sitting for a couple hours, hot starting was very labored or not happening at all. Took it to the dealer, they said plugs coils and wires. Bought them myself, sure enough 2 of the plugs were sparking through, but still starting issues.

Finally just bought a remanufactured starter, took the old one out, which happened the be the one they released the tech service bulletin for, and now shes good as new.

I bought non mazda parts and replaced all of those things for around $400 usd. If you bought all those parts in genuine mazda form, thats more like 7-800. the only things that were oem that I bought were the spark plugs, everything else was not. Many people on the forums seemed to have tried the non oem stuff and have had good luck.

Supercharging gets expensive(last time I looked its between 4-7000) and obviously you have a few other things to take care of first. Good luck with getting it going properly, and hopefully it does not take too much.

Thanks for the support, I'll be slowly working my way through the possibilities. It does have reasonably high ks and with no history (imported) it's hard to know what has or hasn't been done, but I'm fairly optimistic. I have a 12 month warranty that will cover the 'big stuff' so perhaps it wouldn't be so bad for it to be shagged, wouldn't mind a fresh egg beater :aroused:

Brettus 02-13-2012 05:06 PM

I don't usually believe in those warranties - with the RX8 maybe it's worth it . Will be interested to hear how well you are looked after .

rotagirl 02-13-2012 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 4188446)
I don't usually believe in those warranties - with the RX8 maybe it's worth it . Will be interested to hear how well you are looked after .

Yeah the Rx8 is the only rotary they cover, and after reading some fineprint, i'll get 5g max, but it'll still go a long way towards getting a new engine, rather than me paying the lot. Better than nothing eh?

dannobre 02-13-2012 10:05 PM

Fuel Pump might be a place to look too...... :)

Bladecutter 02-14-2012 08:04 PM

Rotagirl,

You might as well start with the least expensive, and easiest things to do.

Here, start with this thread:

https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/congratulations-you-got-8-a-202548/

Once you're done with the simple things, like cleaning the MAF sensor, then go for a replacement starter, as that's going to help with the warm start issue.

Also, you might as well start premixing oil into the gas like a two stroke, as that might help a smidge with compression if the engine is borderline.

Coils, plugs, and wires will help if the ignition system is weak.
You can have these parts tested, or you can just call it maintenance since you probably don't know how old the components are in the car. If they are bad, they kill rotors quick.

You can have someone inspect the catalytic convertor if you want.
That's up to you.

After that, its time for a compression test.

BC.

rotagirl 02-14-2012 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by Bladecutter (Post 4189439)
Rotagirl,

You might as well start with the least expensive, and easiest things to do.

Here, start with this thread:

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=202548

Once you're done with the simple things, like cleaning the MAF sensor, then go for a replacement starter, as that's going to help with the warm start issue.

Also, you might as well start premixing oil into the gas like a two stroke, as that might help a smidge with compression if the engine is borderline.

Coils, plugs, and wires will help if the ignition system is weak.
You can have these parts tested, or you can just call it maintenance since you probably don't know how old the components are in the car. If they are bad, they kill rotors quick.

You can have someone inspect the catalytic convertor if you want.
That's up to you.

After that, its time for a compression test.

BC.

Thanks, yeah I was pretty keen on replacing all I could as maintenance anyway. My question for you is though, I run her on the highest octane I can get- 98. Is this not nececarily enough? I know high octane fuel can hide alot of timing issues with piston engines but I'm just starting out with rotas and with alot of conflicting info, I'm still a bit cagey about trying things out, particularly with my shakey start groundings.
I know I can get this booster stuff for the gas, its not oil but that did wonders for an old car I had. Why would the extra oil help the compression? The oil I've topped up with is 10w-40 just to tide me over till the stuff I ordered arrived. I've only put in about 700ml so will that be enough to affect anything? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I'm trying to soak up all I can here.
I'm worried I'm going to do something incredibly daft :scared:

Brettus 02-14-2012 11:27 PM

No need to run 98 octane in a stock 8 - just throwing money down the toilet . It will even run fine on 91 , but 95 is the recommended so stick with that.

The oil bladecutter is talking about is 2 stroke premix into the gas - it can help if compression is weak.

muncheyboy 02-17-2012 02:30 PM

barn
 
if thats a farm girl i need a ranch !!! :beer05: . hay rotagirl , my sister thinks like you... she can drive it break it , & fix most of what she broke . :D:. no, dont take any cow pattys from anyone !!!

rotagirl 03-16-2012 03:19 AM

Sorry it's been a while. Had the car at a rotary specialist at the dealers cost (found out a bit of dodgy background) and, not as bad as first thought. The mechanic didn't bother with a compression test, said she sounded sweet as. Just recommends replacing the O2 sensor and the coolant temp sensor. So, parts on their way, finally. Got a bit of info on my tappy noise too, port valves, brill. So going to get my no.1 local mech to price me up and sweet talk him into using the workshop and helping me :lol2:

Brettus 03-16-2012 01:35 PM

If the temp sensor was not working at all it would affect starting - did he verify that ?
The 02 sensor -almost certainly not affecting it at all .

I hope it's not your money he is wasteing ?

rotagirl 03-16-2012 04:28 PM

All at dealers cost. The rotary guy said that the sensors were telling the car that it was cold and chucking in too much gas, thats why it didn't want to start. I can only go by what I'm told. Dealer has paid for the parts, not labour but again, I'm sure my mechanic in town can be pursuaded to help me out.
The guy at the rotary shop told me that the dealer himself had problems with the car when his gf was using it but didn't take it to a proper rotary garage to be diagnosed. Having this info, I'm pretty confident that I have some leverage should I have any more issues. The consumer guarantees act protects me too so stuff him. :evil_laug

Brettus 03-16-2012 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by rotagirl (Post 4214465)
All at dealers cost. The rotary guy said that the sensors were telling the car that it was cold and chucking in too much gas, thats why it didn't want to start. I can only go by what I'm told. Dealer has paid for the parts, not labour but again, I'm sure my mechanic in town can be pursuaded to help me out.
The guy at the rotary shop told me that the dealer himself had problems with the car when his gf was using it but didn't take it to a proper rotary garage to be diagnosed. Having this info, I'm pretty confident that I have some leverage should I have any more issues. The consumer guarantees act protects me too so stuff him. :evil_laug

If that is what is happening it is a pretty rare occurrence - not saying he is wrong at all but will be interested to hear if that fixes it .

rotagirl 04-09-2012 07:17 PM

So, was replacing O2 sensor, guess what...? Cat converter is shagged. :Wconfused And a rotary specialist couldn't have taken a quick peek??? Unscrewed the sensor and all this meshy shavings crap fell out, a wee wisp of smoke from one bit, brill. So I'm painfully reduced back to the skyline till I sort this out with the dealer.
When will I be able to drive my black beauty without a worry? :cwm27: Amazing how all other cars just feel so inferior

Brettus 04-09-2012 10:53 PM

do what everyone else does and just have the innards taken out of the cat - will save you a lot of future heartache .

Bladecutter 04-10-2012 12:57 PM

Get a compression test.

If your "rotory specialist" can't take the time to look at the condition of your convertor, and properly inspect your car, I wouldn't believe anything else he said about the car at all.

Go get a compression test.

BC.


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