Code red...damsel in distress!!! :(
 

All,

First off just want to let you all know that i drive a 2005 AT with roughtly 82K miles.

I have had problems with my 8 for a while now, i have made posts and everything and appreciate everyones imput. I dropped off my car at a Mazda dealership on tuesday because my car has loss of power and also it was making a clicking sound and when my car was at a stoplight or stopped at a drive through for my dunkin d's coffee in the morning my car was vibrating.

Dealership still has is and can not tell me wtf is wrong with it.
This is what I have tried so far:
around 50K - did a transmission fluid flush
around 65K - put in brand new coils
around 72K - put in brand new spark plugs {replaced all of them due to flooding

My car has been giving me problems around 25K and because they diagnosed it with a TCL (torque converter lockup) they said that there was no fix for this shit. THey put something in it forgot the name of it but it reduced the problem and does not eliminate it. I cant trade my car in becuase i still owe money on it, i paid 27K for my car back in 2006 when i purchased it and the interests rates are f'n ridiculous!!!

Anywho.... this dealership told me that they found 1 spark plug cracked, told them i replaced these effers last winter when my car flooded and he changed that spark plug. Used a tool to test the compression and its still not working properly and they told me that they sprayed some chemical in my car as well and nothing. They are still trying to figure it out and i am getting veryyyyyyyyyyyy pisssssssssssssed offfffffffff and trust me you do not want to make a portuguese woman mad!!! Lol for real tho!!!

I have read thread about CAT issues, my question is that does anyone think that this may be a CAT issue or an engine issue? Any advice pleaseeeeeeeeee so that i can tell these idiots how to fix my car.

Thanks in advance!

sounds like you had a bad spark plug

i have called up MNAO last year and bitched at them about that dealership and bitched to them that they made a car with no f'n fix for it!

I will see what they dealer tells me today, should be before 5pm my time ET. If all fails i will call up Mazda and mention the SSP 67 cuz i didnt know about it then.

This f'n blowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwws!!!! :mad:

PS = Thank you for mentioning that to me jmc23200

They already replaced it babe and its still giving them issues.... :(

Do this, maybe with just will alittle less of the "bitch, bitch, bitch". ;)
Try another dealer?

ask them for the numbers from the compression test and post them up here .
Need rpm and 6 numbers . one for each combustion chamber ....

Haha. Well, unfortunately, sometimes you have to. SSP 67 would cover the replacement of the transmission and torque converter. As long as this problem has been well documented in the past while you were covered under warranty, you should be able to get it replaced for free. You may need to threaten to or even actually lawyer up.


Here you go. SSP 67: http://forum.rx8nl.com/mwf/attach/97/6997/ad-18.pdf Scroll down to see what is covered under the Transmission and Trans axle section. Now you have something to fight with. Print this out and hand it to the dealer and see what they say. If you problem dates back to when you were covered under the warranty and it is in there system, you have a new tranny/torque converter

:sooooooooo pissssssssssssed offfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff :banghead

That dealership just called me back saying that they dont have the shit to fix my car, now i have to call up another dealership and find a way to have someone follow me to this dealership so i can drive this car to another one..... i f'n hate having tits!!! Dealerships always do this shit to woman, f'n fed up with this shittttttttt! :cussing:

Now they just told me that the tool they had to check the compression was for an f'n 7 not for an 8..... are you f'n kidddddddding me?!?!?!?!?!?!

So now i have to pick up this thing, drop off my rental and find a 3rd dealership to take this f'n POS car too! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

That sucks .
Although it doesn't sound like they are taking advantage of you . That would be when they charge you $$$$ for heaps of stuff that didn't need doing .
Best of luck at the new dealership .

Dude, i have been to 2 different ones and now i have to go to a 3rd one.... i am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo madddddddddddddddd i can seriously punch my hand through a brick wall right now and it probably wouldnt even hurt!!!! :(

Thanks breasts! Lol

HAHA

This vid helped me recently when I was feeling like you do atm.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc

Being a woman doesn't make you a target. There are enough men that don't know anything about cars these days that some repair shops will try to get away with things no matter who you are.

Kim!

I'd seriously suggest picking Liberty Mazda ((877) 278-0163) for that (unfortunately) 3rd dealer. It's a bit far, but entirely worth it. Seriously. I just had my cat replaced by them without a single hassle or trouble point, even with driving my 8 up there with an 'illegal' midpipe on it for the cat replacement. No issues at all.

Talk to Tom (AND ONLY TOM!!!!!!) about it, and he will get it figured out and all settled. They have 2 very experienced techs that really know their stuff about our 8s.

But only talk to Tom. I can't stress that enough. Talk to someone else and you could be tossed through the washer again. If you can't speak to Tom because he is unavailable, then call back later to try again. Feel free to drop my name and Marc's name to Tom. He knows Marc VERY well, and remembers me right off the bat now.

Dude this thread is awesome!!!!

Who says that???

and she called Brettus........ breasts!!
Thanks Breasts!!!!!!!

Made my day, I wish I was in Florida. I would like to shake your hand.

Code Red is right. This girl needs help, someone local help a sister out.

I don't think she needs help, just another dealer. Like stated above, go to Liberty Mazda and talk to Tom. I would also try to get ALL of your cars history printed IE all of your visits regarding the same problem since 25k miles. That way you will have proof of when it started and the document that covers it SSP 67. You should be fine. I live in Boston if you do need some help. Massachusetts Consumer Laws protect you against this. If a part that is under warranty fails or has problems and you bring it to the manufacturers attention and they do not fix it, even after you're warranty expires they are reliable for it.

I meant someone needs to go with her to a dealership, she obviously isn't having any luck by herself. I would go with you but I'm in Vegas!:rock:

Mike you have noooooo idea babe! I was on my way to Liberty yesterday and guess what happend my frigin car kept stalling on me!!! So i had to put the thing in neutral at red lights like i drove a standard, drove back to the dealership and now i am waiting on the Fairhaven dealer to give the an 8 compression tool to check that out. When it rains, it pours!!! All i know is that if they cant do anything, i am going to have to drive my car up to Liberty tomorrow, there will be no traffic on the highway. Cuz they dont know if its a warranty thing or not i am not paying an arm and leg for the tow when i have been already paying for a rental car since this Tuesday! On the positve side.... i heard you were going to be at Marc's place so i may be able to see u guys tomorrow if worse comes to worse... lol

I missssssssss my boys!!! :( Hopefully this thing can get fixed soon and we all need to have another get together soon.

LMAO!!! yeah some of these guys on here already know how i am, they met me in person so the way i talked was no surpise to them... haha

Yes i called Brettus .... breasts cuz did you see the size of that rack on his avatar? LOL
I couldnt resissssssst i had to say that, that was the only thing yesterday during the time that made me smile and laugh.... lol

Also, I live in MA not in FL babe... haha

Let me see if my wife will be around tomorrow to deal with the gas company tech that is coming to our house ("sometime" between 8am and 8pm "appointment"). I can meet you at the Fairhaven dealer and tail you up to Liberty.

My guess is that you have a clogged cat. Gut feeling, not much I can base it on at the moment. It could be compression, it's certainly possible.

Just wanted to quickly thank everyone for your advice and the dealership just called me and confirmed that he is personally driving to Fairhaven Dealer to pickup the compression tool. Will let you all know waht happens next.... (crossing my fingers)

My car is at the Brockton dealership sweetie but i will let you know when i hear info or i will text you.

Tell your wifey i said hi :)

Ah, it isn't at Fairhaven.

The more I re-read your description, the more I think it is your cat. Cat failure can progress very rapidly, where as compression doesn't unless you break a seal suddenly, and well, you would have given a different description there :)

I went from a bit of power loss to massive power loss in a matter of a few days, and the last day went from alot of power loss to unable to maintain highway speed in about 30 miles.

Thanks babe, i am one step ahead of ya and have all of that stuff in a folder already :)
All of my car maintenance history that is...

Where can i get the SSP 67 bulletin? You have a copy of it?

SSP 67: http://forum.rx8nl.com/mwf/attach/97/6997/ad-18.pdf

Scroll down and you will see that the torque converter is covered by this warranty. There is no reason that they should not have replaced the torque converter or all necessary parts until it was fixed.

UPDATE: Just got off the phone with the dealer..... looks like i need a new motor.... says its covered under warranty, i just need to give them my service records which i have at home and i am good to go hopefully :)

You go Girl! Kick Ass and take names :spank:. Keep us posted on the prognosis. And good luck. It is bad enough dealing with the dealers but in the kind of weather you folks are having, no thank you. Stay safe driving that stalling 8 ok.

I think i may have this service bulletin already that you gave me.... i have all my stuff at home but if i dont i will print it out and attach to my other records. Also this is from my original thread called "i need somones help!!!" So as you can see, i have been dealing with this shit for a longggggggg time.

Trust me i have names! haha
Not driving my 8 now, i have a rental.... a Hyundai Sonata since Tuesday lol
Thanks for the postive and kind words.... will keep you all posted.

Glad you are getting a new engine Kim. Too bad it's taken this long before a dealer steps up, but hey, a free engine is never a bad thing :)

Actually, for 2004s and 2005s, getting a new engine INCREASES your car's value :lol:

Let me know if something comes up that you need help with :)

Am I still coming over with the massage oils?

haha nice. Glad to see you are getting a new engine. Remember, once the engine is replaced, bring it for a test drive to see if you still have the same problem. If you do, make a tech go for a ride with you to verify the problem. As hard as it may be, don't bring it home if there is still the initial problem when they are done.

It is probably too far out of your way, but if your desperate to find a good dealer and a good rotary mechanic to work with, get hooked up with Werner Mazda in Manchester, NH. Kelly is the service writer on the Mazda service desk and Mark is a grrrreat rotary mechanic. If you troll VOODOO8 on a search of this site you'll see I've posted up on a bunch of issues they have helped me with, there are a bunch of others I haven't bothered to post on. Bottom line - good people!:angel:

I think you missed the part where the current dealer is giving her a new engine under warranty and the issue is resolved :)

It wouldn't make one wit of difference whether it was for a 7, an 8, or an old RePu. It's still a 1.3 Litre Mazda wankel. They are complete and utter morons for not realising that. The very slight differences in chamber geometry can be corrected for mathematically by multiplying by the appropriate correction factor, and that is also something they should know. They definitely sound like people who know intimately what the inside of their own rectums look like.

Issue isn't technically resolved yet. Her first problem that has been happening for a long time was blamed on the torque converter locking and causing her car to stall/jerk often if I remember right. The engine just so happens to be bad and need replacement. Hopefully all works out for the best and everything is fixed accordingly.

Hopefully, the transmission and torque convertor will be replaced at the same time as the engine, in order to minimise her down-time. As someone who will probably be joining the new engine club soon (engine starts easily when cold and runs great; but acts like it's flooded when trying to restart when warm) I am curious how long is typical for a dealer to swap a defective engine.

Try revving your engine to 3k rpm for 5-10 seconds and then turn your car off while still at those rpms. Then see if it starts back up ok in a few minutes.

When I remember to do that when the engine is warm, it helps. Unfortunately, since I have that in my mind as something to do when the engine is shut down cold, I need to learn a new habit of doing the "cold shut down" procedure when the engine is warm.

When I say warm, I mean the coolant temperature is at least 177F. At 200F, the problem is even worse.

I usually only do it when it is really cold out. I never turn off the engine before it is fully warmed up and I never give my keys to someone else in fear that they will. Non rotary experienced people cause engine failures because "they know whats best"

We will see babe.... i gave them the paperwork so they better not try pulling a fast one. I will find out more Monday and will let you all know.

LMFAO!!! Helllllllllls yeah i still need a massage! :kiss: lol

Thanks for the suggestion babe, if i were going to take it somewhere i would take it to the wakefield dealer cuz they are really good too from what i hear and have alot of experience. :)

Agreed! I had the SSP 77 bulletin which is the same as the SSP67 one however this bulletin SSP 77 is updated with May 2008 and SSP 67 is August 2006. I have a copy of the SSP 77 at my work that i will post here tomorrow in case anyone needs it. :)

I really do hope that they replace the TCL since they screwed me the first time.... it was becuase they didnt honor their warranty to begin with is why my car is how it is now.... MNAO kept telling me that there was no fix to this but how can you make anything and not know anything on how to service it??? This whole time in my opinion.... the dealerships and MNAO just didnt want to replace it the first time so it is THEIR faults not my fault. I did everything to try to fix it. New coils, spark plugs, tranny flush.... i mean what else besides the CAT could i have done? If it was the CAT they should have picked up on that before. Just glad that i joined this club and i got to learn alot abotu my car from all of you. :)

I hear ya.... i let my sister borrow my car a couple of times and i tell always reminded her let the car run for a good 3-5 minutes cuz if you flood it i will kick your ass! haha :P

Kim,

Don't take this the wrong way :)

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Incorrect. SSP 77 is the engine core warranty. It only covers the replacement of the engine core and nothing else. You need to pay for all necessary external gaskets, fluids, etc.

SSP 67 is the extended power train warranty which covers everything.

SSP 67 = free work

SSP 77 = low cost engine replacement.