Originally Posted by swoope
(Post 2101062)
well not so much with the rx8..
beers :beer: RX-8 = Welcome to Crazy World. |
Originally Posted by swoope
(Post 2101060)
no.
if the clutch is not engaged the throw out bearing is pretty much out of the loop.. beers :beer: Right, when the clutch is engaged I hear the whine but when the pedal is pressed (disengaged) it goes away. This is on the RX8 by the way. |
Originally Posted by nmarz77
(Post 2101311)
Are you experiencing this in your 8 or another vehicle? If it is in your 8 does the noise dissapear when in 5th gear? If another vehicle, what make/model and is there a certain gear the noise goes away in?
I've just taken some video with sound from my phone (trying to download it now) but I have noticed the noise goes away when the clutch pedal reaches the disengagement point, not with slight pressure pedal pressure like mentioned before. I'll upload the video and we'll see what you all think. |
I finally figured out how to extract the video from my phone and convert it... You'll have to turn the sound volume up quite a bit to hear it. The first part is the noise at idle, which I understand could be considered "gear chatter" but the noise increases in frequency and volume when I rev to 2k rpms and hold for the rest of the video. You can hear where the clutch is engaged and then disengaged (every 3-4 seconds), by the way the a/c compressor is off. Let me know what you all think.
http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/5...071117_3g2.AVI |
Man that's really too distorted to tell. Maybe you could make another video with the car outside of the garage and the phone under and/or next to the car?
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yeah not good. what did they replace already in the tranny?
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Yeah, that was the best sound quality I could get... I guess the most I can really ask for is it normal for the transmission to make such a significant change in noise when the clutch is engaged vs. disengaged when in neutral with throttle held slightly open?
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Originally Posted by zoom44
(Post 2102202)
yeah not good. what did they replace already in the tranny?
QTY / PART NUMBER / DESCRIPTION 1 / R501-17-335A / OIL SEAL 1 / Y602-17-306 / BEARING.RO 3 / Y601-17-108 / STEEL BALL 1 / Y601-17-131 / OIL SEAL 1 / Y611-17-325A / COVER.BEAR 1 / Y601-17-40XA / SHIFT FORK *edit* Here is a much better quality video clip with perfect sound capture. My digital camera is higher quality than my stupid phone, don't know why I didn't think of it first. http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/500/MVI_1266.AVI |
That is the normal gear noise.
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completely normal gear rollover noise that is.:)
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Right. Economy of words.
I shall eschew suesqupedalism. |
all that work and it will sound the same.
beers :beer: |
Thank guys, even if you say the sound at idle is normal I do for sure still have a very loud whine under load. I was hoping the idle noise would give some indication as to what the problem was. Well, I guess I'll just leave it up to the Mazda rep and hope the decide to just replace the entire tranny. Thanks again.
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Wow, after hearing the second clip in your edit, when the camera is set up outside of the car I can hear the wine that you're talking about.
So you already had some transmission work done? |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 2102631)
I shall eschew suesqupedalism.
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Originally Posted by nmarz77
(Post 2103611)
Wow, after hearing the second clip in your edit, when the camera is set up outside of the car I can hear the wine that you're talking about.
So you already had some transmission work done? QTY / PART NUMBER / DESCRIPTION 1 / R501-17-335A / OIL SEAL 1 / Y602-17-306 / BEARING.RO 3 / Y601-17-108 / STEEL BALL 1 / Y601-17-131 / OIL SEAL 1 / Y611-17-325A / COVER.BEAR 1 / Y601-17-40XA / SHIFT FORK They were not very willing to spend a minute of time to explain what they replaced or why. They basically gave it back (after keeping it for 2 1/2 weeks) and said, "Thats the best we can do...call Mazda if you aren't satisfied". I took their advice and the dealership said they would call when they hear from the regional rep, that was 6 weeks ago and the service manager just keeps blowing me off. It's getting old at this point, therefore the reason I want as much ammunition as I can when the car does finally see the Mazda rep. |
Originally Posted by GatoEnFuego
(Post 2103707)
They were not very willing to spend a minute of time to explain what they replaced or why. They basically gave it back (after keeping it for 2 1/2 weeks) and said, "Thats the best we can do...call Mazda if you aren't satisfied". I took their advice and the dealership said they would call when they hear from the regional rep, that was 6 weeks ago and the service manager just keeps blowing me off. It's getting old at this point, therefore the reason I want as much ammunition as I can when the car does finally see the Mazda rep.
One more thing is that you should have been given a copy of the repair order which should have the technicians step by step "story" of how he diagnosed and repaired the problem. Without it the tech and dealership would never get paid by Mazda for the repair, so check that and let us know. I take it this transmission whine started after they opened up the gear box or is that what it origionally went in for? |
Originally Posted by zoom44
(Post 2103658)
i can see why:) im sure its just a typo and not actually a spelling error;)
Sesquipedalism. Whatever. It isn't funny anymore... |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 2104711)
Damn Blackberry!
Sesquepedalism. Whatever. It isn't funny anymore... yes it is. beers :beer: |
Originally Posted by swoope
(Post 2104722)
yes it is.
Damn it! FAIL! Well, good thing for "edit post", though it doesn't save me in your quote! |
Originally Posted by nmarz77
(Post 2104036)
Dude, you gotta do some research and write mazda directly. You shouldn't have to wait 6 weeks to hear from the regional service manager. Sounds like they are blowing you off.
One more thing is that you should have been given a copy of the repair order which should have the technicians step by step "story" of how he diagnosed and repaired the problem. Without it the tech and dealership would never get paid by Mazda for the repair, so check that and let us know. I take it this transmission whine started after they opened up the gear box or is that what it origionally went in for? The work order states they installed updated shift fork and updated retainer plate and bearing. They tore down the tranny for this gear whine issue, when they gave it back it didn't change a thing however the tech claims it got better. |
Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
(Post 2102631)
Right. Economy of words.
I shall eschew suesqupedalism. Heh... |
Masticate Sasquatch?
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I used to have this same problem with a little squealing noise while sitting in neutral at traffic lights, then when i engage it the noise would disappear, this only happened after mazda replaced my original clutch with another oem one, however, only 5000 miles later the clutch was completely worn down, not because of my driving habits, but because of the way the jackasses at the stealership installed it, the new clutch was under warranty and they replaced it with another new one, this one works great and is as smooth as when I first got the car, no squealing noise either, so my question is, those of you with the noise, have you recently had a new clutch installed, as improper installation of the clutch may have something to do with it, im not 100% on how a clutch works and how it is mounted, but it certainly seemed like the problem was in the install and not with the way the transmission works/operates
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Originally Posted by wolfy_hockey88
(Post 2120915)
I used to have this same problem with a little squealing noise while sitting in neutral at traffic lights, then when i engage it the noise would disappear, this only happened after mazda replaced my original clutch with another oem one, however, only 5000 miles later the clutch was completely worn down, not because of my driving habits, but because of the way the jackasses at the stealership installed it, the new clutch was under warranty and they replaced it with another new one, this one works great and is as smooth as when I first got the car, no squealing noise either, so my question is, those of you with the noise, have you recently had a new clutch installed, as improper installation of the clutch may have something to do with it, im not 100% on how a clutch works and how it is mounted, but it certainly seemed like the problem was in the install and not with the way the transmission works/operates
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