Car won't start, replaced started and did deflood procedure
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Car won't start, replaced started and did deflood procedure
I am stumped. I thought my starter was going bad since it has been having problems starting even after warming up and then it wouldn't cold start even. I went and put in a new starter did the deflood procedure and still no go. I rarely drive this car and has less then 60K miles on it. I probably wasted money buying a new starter and now I have no clue what to do next. This is a 2004 Automatic. Any thought appreciated. I also replaced coils plugs and wires not too long ago hoping that was going to make the car run better which it did but the start problem is something different now. Any thoughts appreciated.
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Buy new spark plugs.
Recharge battery fully.
Remove spark plugs, remove fuel pump fuse fuse, crank engine over, and see if liquid spits out of spark plug holes. Let dry for an hour.
Install brand new spark plugs.
Crank engine over.
Install fuel pump fuse.
Crank engine over, and see if it starts.
Hopefully it does.
BC.
Recharge battery fully.
Remove spark plugs, remove fuel pump fuse fuse, crank engine over, and see if liquid spits out of spark plug holes. Let dry for an hour.
Install brand new spark plugs.
Crank engine over.
Install fuel pump fuse.
Crank engine over, and see if it starts.
Hopefully it does.
BC.
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I don't know jack
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From: Seattle area
Buy new spark plugs.
Recharge battery fully.
Remove spark plugs, remove fuel pump fuse fuse, crank engine over, and see if liquid spits out of spark plug holes. Let dry for an hour.
Install brand new spark plugs.
Crank engine over.
Install fuel pump fuse.
Crank engine over, and see if it starts.
Hopefully it does.
BC.
Recharge battery fully.
Remove spark plugs, remove fuel pump fuse fuse, crank engine over, and see if liquid spits out of spark plug holes. Let dry for an hour.
Install brand new spark plugs.
Crank engine over.
Install fuel pump fuse.
Crank engine over, and see if it starts.
Hopefully it does.
BC.
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You must get the excess fuel out of the chambers.
Steps:
1) Fully charge car battery
2) Replace old slow style starter motor with upgraded starter motor (04 and 05 models).
3) Remove spark plugs
4) Disconnect ESS this prevents the plugs firing. (this might produce a CEL P0335 Eccentric shaft position sensor circuit problem ON 1 CCM ´
(See DTC P0335 )). I guess you don`t really need to do this but there is going to be a lot of gasoline vapour.
5) Unplug fuel pump fuse.
6) Remove all the spark plugs
7) Dry and clean around all the spark plug holes. Doing this to give us an indicator of when the engine has evacuated all the fuel.
8) Depress fuel peddle to the floor and hold it there while cranking engine
9) Crank engine for 5-7 seconds. Make sure not to over heat the starter and allow it to cool for a minute between cranking cycles
10) Inspect spark plug holes. They will likely be covered in moisture. Dry and clean.
11) Repeat this cranking procedure 10-12 times or until not vapour or moisture is noticed during cranking. Make sure to keep the battery charged up or switch to your spare.
12) Put everything back together. Fully charge battery.
13) Start engine, have fun
1) Fully charge car battery
2) Replace old slow style starter motor with upgraded starter motor (04 and 05 models).
3) Remove spark plugs
4) Disconnect ESS this prevents the plugs firing. (this might produce a CEL P0335 Eccentric shaft position sensor circuit problem ON 1 CCM ´
(See DTC P0335 )). I guess you don`t really need to do this but there is going to be a lot of gasoline vapour.
5) Unplug fuel pump fuse.
6) Remove all the spark plugs
7) Dry and clean around all the spark plug holes. Doing this to give us an indicator of when the engine has evacuated all the fuel.
8) Depress fuel peddle to the floor and hold it there while cranking engine
9) Crank engine for 5-7 seconds. Make sure not to over heat the starter and allow it to cool for a minute between cranking cycles
10) Inspect spark plug holes. They will likely be covered in moisture. Dry and clean.
11) Repeat this cranking procedure 10-12 times or until not vapour or moisture is noticed during cranking. Make sure to keep the battery charged up or switch to your spare.
12) Put everything back together. Fully charge battery.
13) Start engine, have fun
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IS the ESS plug on the right side going over the shock? I disconnected that. I will try removing the spark plug and deflood that way and see if that works. The dealer is trying to tell me my compression is probably bad and I have less then 60K miles on it and that would suck big time if that was the case. Going to pick up a new battery even though the one I have seems to be ok and charges.
IS the ESS plug on the right side going over the shock? I disconnected that. I will try removing the spark plug and deflood that way and see if that works. The dealer is trying to tell me my compression is probably bad and I have less then 60K miles on it and that would suck big time if that was the case. Going to pick up a new battery even though the one I have seems to be ok and charges.
It is possible that the engine is suffering from low compression. Hopefully this is not the case (but it is possible)
Try the deflood recommended by Darkbrew ... it's only going to cost you time.
ESS is located at the front of the engine, not over the shock.
https://www.rx8club.com/trouble-shoo...5/#post3842487
Last edited by wcs; Dec 31, 2012 at 02:19 PM.
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