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Rotary-RX8 04-09-2011 08:28 PM

Brakes making noise :(
 
So my brakes have been fine for a long time. Front pads have probably 95% life and rears are about 30%. So i almost have to replace the rears soon. Before ... When i would brake i would never get any noise. Recently when i brake lightly, i get this clucking noise. I checked my rear pads and theyre not done yet. But yea its like a clucking noise.. Im not to sure how to explain it. What do you guys think it could be ?? :( its annoying the hell out of me.

Rotary-RX8 04-10-2011 11:18 AM

bumppp

Rotary-RX8 04-10-2011 04:06 PM

after noon bump ...

LifeAfterRx8 04-10-2011 04:07 PM

Is it only when the vehicle is slowing down to a stop?

Rotary-RX8 04-10-2011 04:10 PM

Yea !!! If im going high speed and i light brake, no noise. Its when im about to make a full stop at a red or stop sign. WTF is it:( please tell me its nothing serious or expensive .. lol

LifeAfterRx8 04-10-2011 04:15 PM

I'm not sure on what could possibly be the problem, but I have the exact same problem. :(
I think it has something to do with the brakes rubbing something though because if you cruise to a stop, no sound but if you apply the brakes it sounds like it's metal clunking against something right?

Rotary-RX8 04-10-2011 04:18 PM

Yeaa !! I was thinking the same thing that its definitely rubbing against something. I have never had this problem before, my brakes were fine. I think its coming from the rear, i tried sticking my head out to listen. It bugs the crap out of me :(

LifeAfterRx8 04-10-2011 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary-RX8 (Post 3940978)
Yeaa !! I was thinking the same thing that its definitely rubbing against something. I have never had this problem before, my brakes were fine. I think its coming from the rear, i tried sticking my head out to listen. It bugs the crap out of me :(

I'm having my car looked at soon and I'm going to ask about the noise so if they find out anything I'll tell you but hopefully you find out before then because yeah it gets annoying. :(

Rotary-RX8 04-10-2011 04:43 PM

I have a bit of life left on my rear pads i wish it was closer to being replaced to i can get it resolved. I live pretty far from mazda id say 50 km or so. I might bite and jsut go get it checked out and drive to mazda.

But ye if you find out ill let you no.. and vice versa lol. thanks dude.

monchie 04-10-2011 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary-RX8 (Post 3940442)
So my brakes have been fine for a long time. Front pads have probably 95% life and rears are about 30%. So i almost have to replace the rears soon. Before ... When i would brake i would never get any noise. Recently when i brake lightly, i get this clucking noise. I checked my rear pads and theyre not done yet. But yea its like a clucking noise.. Im not to sure how to explain it. What do you guys think it could be ?? :( its annoying the hell out of me.


I think your rear pads are done and it's rubbing metal to metal with the rear rotors.
Have them checked just to make sure.

Rotary-RX8 04-11-2011 07:55 AM

I doubt it cause i have about half an inch of pad left. And its only when i brake lightly to a stop. Thanks though :)

skrubol 04-11-2011 07:57 AM

Have you checked the inside pads? Insides usually wear faster and they're tougher to check. Also, just because there's some meat on the pad doesn't mean that it's not worn out. I haven't seen an RX8 pad torn apart, but sometimes metal protrudes into the pad material a bit to aid in keeping the pad held together (if that makes any sense.)

Rotary-RX8 04-11-2011 08:06 AM

^ Thanks !!! Ill get them replaced asap and see if thats the problem. I just hope i havent damaged my rotors :SHOCKED:

tcole6 04-11-2011 08:18 AM

Could be good excuse to buy some slotted rotors if you don't already have them :)

Rotary-RX8 04-11-2011 08:27 AM

I like the way you think :( but theres lots i want to do before i get new rotors.

Rotary-RX8 04-11-2011 05:49 PM

So it wont be till end of april till ill have time to get my pads replaced :(.

Any other inputs as to what else could be causing the noise :dunno:

Razz1 04-11-2011 07:26 PM

stuck piston caliper that has moved out to keep the pick close enough to the rotor.

I too have seen pads worn in the center with full thickness on the ends.

Unless you pull off the brake you really can't tell the wear on them.

If its a squeal... sand the rotors, but you have a chicken, cluck cluck

Razz1 04-11-2011 07:27 PM

stuck piston caliper that has moved out to keep the pick close enough to the rotor.

I too have seen pads worn in the center with full thickness on the ends.

Unless you pull off the brake you really can't tell the wear on them.

If its a squeal... sand the rotors, but you have a chicken, cluck cluck

Rotary-RX8 04-11-2011 08:00 PM

^ So whats the solution to fix this ?? Replace pads ?? Does this damage the rotors ?? Thanks for the info.

skrubol 04-12-2011 10:16 AM

I'd recommend tearing down the brakes without buying anything first. You may just need new pads, or you may need new pads, rotors and a caliper rebuild. (or you may not need anything.) Just pull the caliper off so you can inspect the pads and back of the rotor.

Rotary-RX8 04-12-2011 10:35 AM

Yea ill do that today thanks.

JUNKyardHOE 04-12-2011 11:03 AM

well the other option is that most pads have a feeler that when you get close to the limit they are designed to squeak so you know to change them... that's where mine are at

Rotary-RX8 04-12-2011 11:14 AM

^ Yea i know that. But the thing is they dont squeak they "clunk". lol

Grimm0ne 04-12-2011 12:15 PM

does it do it all the time or just most of the time, like its part of the tire rotating??

I have that issue up front, passenger side. its not all the time, but only at low speeds and when breaking. Maybe one of the break clips is hitting the rotor... or i got a twig or something up in there lol I'm heading out to pull the pass front.

Rotary-RX8 04-12-2011 04:58 PM

^ Not all the time. It definitely has something to do with the brakes cause when the wheels are turning no sound. Its when im slowing down, i lightly press the brake and i get a cluck cluck cluck cluck. You can only hear it when music is off and windows are down. Its coming from my rear brakes. It annoys me fuck !! Im about to take the calipers apart. Now what exactly do i look for ?? Also i just remove top and bottom screws right ?? Then put them back as they were ?? I dont wannaa remove them and put them back on wrong and die on the street with no functional brakes lol :suspect:

Grimm0ne 04-12-2011 05:09 PM

i hear ya on that lol..

i dont have the right lug nut wrench as its not a 19mm and 22mm is way to big as my "tool" box is missing the lug wrench and i have a dam lug key that looks like a$$ so i hope it doesn't snap like the one did on my talon... such a pita. but i grabed the break sheld or rock sheld what ever, and a bunch of pepbles fell out, but i can still here it. It goes to a local shop tomorrow to get up on a lift to see what the issue is. Ramps just dont cut it lol

Rotary-RX8 04-12-2011 06:35 PM

^ Please let me know what causing it. I have a feeling its because the pads are done. It should be a squeak though which doesnt make sense to me. Anyways ye let me know how it goes.

Grimm0ne 04-13-2011 02:47 PM

shop couldn't get me in, had a "on call" to tend with.

so i jacked it up and spun the front wheel and a crap ton of pebles came out, so dont know if it was just them bunched up behind the sheild or what. But as soon as i can get it back over and have them double check, I'll let you know... dang blasted pebles lol

DocBeech 04-14-2011 02:41 AM

If you have never taken your brakes off I suggest you get some help. There are a number of things that can go wrong, from dropping it and damaging the brake line, to loosing a shim of the pads comming unclipped and you getting into trouble. Never let the brake caliper hang on the brake line either, always set it someplace or use mechanics wire to hang it.

There is more to it than just removing two bolts. You will need to remove the bracket from the caliper. Check the pads, clean the shims. I mean they should look brand new before you put the assembly back together. Also the floating pins will need to be cleaned and regreased if your taking the assembly apart. They should slide freely with no trouble. You will need to move the piston in to make sure its not stuck and is floating freely, and then reassemble the entire unit.

Grace_Excel 04-14-2011 11:15 AM

I don't think it's the pebbles!
 
I had that similar problem with my front left calipers after I changed my brake pads last year. Try checking the fasteners and clips that hold the brake pads in place; if the pads fell off the caliper once it's removed from the bracket, the fastener/clip may be bent causing the pads to freely move and hit the calipers as you apply the brake to slow down. I can't remember if the rear have a sliding bolt like the fronts do. But, buy a Brake Caliper Rebuild Kit or a pack of Brake Lube at AutoZone similar to the one below to re-grease the floating pins, as DocBeech suggested.

https://contentinfo.autozone.com/zne.../BK-1/image/4/

Now, for the "clucking" noise you hear as the car slows down to a stop. Does anyone know how much pressure is applied to the rear compared to the front calipers as we press the brake? That might explain why the sound only appears during that time :dunno:
For a how-to, read these links: Rear Brake Inspection, Removal/Installation, Replacement, Caliper Disassembly/Assembly.

Grimm0ne 04-14-2011 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by DocBeech (Post 3944933)
If you have never taken your brakes off I suggest you get some help. There are a number of things that can go wrong, from dropping it and damaging the brake line, to loosing a shim of the pads comming unclipped and you getting into trouble. Never let the brake caliper hang on the brake line either, always set it someplace or use mechanics wire to hang it.

There is more to it than just removing two bolts. You will need to remove the bracket from the caliper. Check the pads, clean the shims. I mean they should look brand new before you put the assembly back together. Also the floating pins will need to be cleaned and regreased if your taking the assembly apart. They should slide freely with no trouble. You will need to move the piston in to make sure its not stuck and is floating freely, and then reassemble the entire unit.

i know my way around brakes, i upgraded my GSX's to Evo fronts.. not that hard, but you pionted out a few tips to look into when i get the chance to have them look at mine.

Rotary-RX8 04-14-2011 08:56 PM

Alright guys... so ive had enough this morning and picked up a new set of rear pads this morning and replaced my old ones. It was easy, ive done it before on other cars. Everything went smooth and i bedded them and everything. And guess what.......... GOODBYE CLUCK CLUCK CLUK... HELLO SILENCE :) :) :) I was so happy when i went out for a test drive and slowly press the brakes... no noise. Thanks for the info everyone :)

Sisco360 04-15-2011 08:25 PM

Above.. I had the same problem. Slotted and cross drilled rotors.. two pebbles were stuck in the holes on the rotors and squeeking like a beaaatch.

monchie 04-16-2011 02:01 AM

I rather have the basic rotors than the slotted cross drilled because of these kind of issues, like things getting stuck thru the holes and cracking around the holes.


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