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Old 08-30-2010, 11:52 AM
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brake problems

My '05 brakes are acting strange.
During moderate to heavy braking my brake pedal suddenly drops a few inches.
Not to the floor but it sure gets your attention.
They are a little spongy and have been getting progressively worse.
I use ATE fluid with speed bleeders and have ss. lines and a brace for the m/c.
Considering buying a new m/c and booster
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It seems you've well assured the lines are bled, and already have SS lines, so it's possible the cylinder seals are going bad and partially leaking by on hard pressure.
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Did you bleed them recently?
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Yes I have bleed them recently
and even used the two man method of pump an hold.
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Did you also try bleeding the M/C?
I know... people will say you don't have to and will point out that later models don't even have the option, but I experienced the same thing after bleeding my brakes too.
After I bled the M/C it worked fine... so now I add that to my "bleeding steps".
Its the easiest thing to bleed... so why not just do it!
The order I bleed is M/C -> RR -> LR -> RF -> LF -> M/C
To each their own
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Did you do a complete drain or were you flushing as you were bleeding?

Sounds like you still have air in the M/C or ABS Unit
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LOL A little preemptively defensive there Jon. Yeah, no harm in bleeding the m/c if you have the option (even tho' you don't have to).

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Did you also try bleeding the M/C?
I know... people will say you don't have to and will point out that later models don't even have the option, but I experienced the same thing after bleeding my brakes too.
After I bled the M/C it worked fine... so now I add that to my "bleeding steps".
Its the easiest thing to bleed... so why not just do it!
The order I bleed is M/C -> RR -> LR -> RF -> LF -> M/C
To each their own
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do not have a bleed screw in my '05
will buy a '04 m/c with that feature
i did not drain the entire system or run the reservior dry
you are right it sounds like air in the abs or m/c
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booster and master
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Originally Posted by EricMeyer
booster and master
Hey Eric,
I am just waiting on pay day
The booster looks like it would be a pia to get to fasteners under the dash
See you at VIR
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