brokenhelmet

yeah.... well...
I've put my stock intake back.... (used to use mazdaspeed)
went to the dealership....
did the compression test... I dun remember what RPM it was
but.. numbers were like...
5.8, 6.1, 6.1
6.1, 6.3, 6.1
something like this....
and... they said I gotta replace the engine.... whoa!!.....
-_-....
and this mechanic guy took picture of my car and sent the E-mail to Mazda North America in California (it's what they told me) and they will give feed back on monday to decide whether engine replacement can be covered under warrenty or not....
problem comes here.. I guess....
I have highflow CAT from SR and Exhaust from Greddy.
guess.. can't be covered under warranty tho....
hmm... car has hardtime starting up.... cranks quite good but doesn't startup immediatly and misfire in high RPM... but no loss of power at all...
as posted before, changed plugs, coils and wires.... but still the CELs... -_-...

hope they won't BS about my aftermarket parts tho... waiting for feedback on monday....
guys... any idea about the price of replacement w/o warrenty?

Jax_RX8

Ask Expo1, he just had his rebuilt by Mazmart (Atlanta).

Dealer replacement for a remanufactured motor is high - around $5000+

Old Rotor

Have you tried any cleaners like BG44K to see if it helps improve compression.

nycgps

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I just checked my pm Broken.

6.1 is pretty low. if you put stock intake back, why are they taking pictures ?

Dont let that **** scare u, when I had a SSV CEL a yr something ago, ********* at dealership took a picture of it too, I was like wtf ? the SSV is just a crap that worth 60 freaking bux, and they're trying to blame it on my aftermarket intake. Thats why I have no trust in dealerships, Mazda really gotta train their techs some *basic* customer service, instead of just blaming everything to crap thats totally unrelated. Not to mention I *fixed* the problem myself by a few tanks of Gas with Redline SI-1 Cleaner. no more CEL for the past almost 15K miles.

Well to ur problem, u can try what Old Rotor suggested. Actually thats what Im planning to tell you too.

Right now Im on my *Routine cleaning*, I just finished a tank of Chervon Techron the 20 gallon one, now Im @ second tank(just fill her up 2 hours ago) with Prestone Complete System Cleaner. After the first tank, the engine runs a lot smoother, probably just some butt dyno thing but hmm, u know. After this second tank, I will have another tank of Prestone CSC. then I think I am good for a long time.

oh to *clean* it, fill it up with some good brand cleaners, BG44K is probably the strongest stuff. u can try that, but I guess Techron should be good, buy like 2 bottles of those, put 1 in each tank of gas, while its in, try to go thru the entire RPM range of the engine.

brokenhelmet

dunno.... hmm -_- they were trying to bull **** about oil changing also... they were like... "did you collect all the reciepts when you did oil change?".. freaking duh~
they were taking pictures of engine room, interior, back, left, right and under the car..... what the faq.... ah!!!! and even tire!!.... k;ahg;idhqgigkr;eaqhgr!!!!!!
I'm 'a bit' positive that they didn't do the compression test right.....
the thing is that car's kinda hard to start tho... cranks well but hard to ignite..... car's especially hard to start when I turn off the car and try to restart in like 5~10 mins. So I was thinking about something like injector... cuz I thought when compression is so low, how come there's no powerloss at all? But... yeah... not really sure tho...
hmm.. I'll check that out... BG44K...

brokenhelmet

And... I think Mazda should train their mechanics how the engine works... or entire whole car works.......
told them to check injector but they said they can't... cuz it will avoid warrenty.. what the................. (-_- +)

brokenhelmet

I really miss mechanics back in Korea... they even cutted and molded a whole metal to make somekinda bearing that would fit perfectly into my '96 tiburon.... and piston balancing for free...

nycgps

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That simply means that place is a : *dealership loaded with **********

**** who took a picture of my engine bay obviously got sick of me going there so often (replaced tons of stuff, but nothing engine related), but too bad they failed, my engine warranty still here.

Im not afraid of them pulling me anything, I clean my intake every few K miles usually less than 5K miles. so its very clean, never over oil, and I have receipts of all the oils that I bought. I have only 39K on my car and I already changed my tranny and rear diff oil 3 times. Engine oil probably every 1.5K miles to 3K miles. so Im never afraid.

As always, You gotta prepare for the worst

If they really pulling **** on you, your car still works right? pull it out, and do some BG44K thing, you can get it from Tommy's site (our forum vendor) for like 20 bux plus a few bux shipping. At least 20 something 30 bucks better than what the dealership will ask you for a Reman engine (probably 5-6K including labor)

They do actually, but morons never listens. They probably dont understand how can a triangle thing can spin like that.

Mazda has a really bad rating in after sales customer service for a reason. Even Hyundai has a better rating, thats just sad.

Let us know what happen on monday.

brokenhelmet

Always appreciate your feed back dude... (-.-)b

nycgps

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A lot of ppl hate me here

brokenhelmet

mostly newbies I guess.. haha...
who do not "search"

nycgps

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mostly people who try to be like a nice guy, but when people needs *actual* help, they never show up.

I have a list on my comp with ppl who bitched at me on the other post. Yep yep, I dont see ANY OF THEM came up here to help anybody. and call me a loser for having 6000+ post.

Yeah they have like less than 100, never help anybody, and call me a bitch. wow. just wow.

brokenhelmet

totally agree...
ah!! by the way... you still have warranty even with aftermarket parts?

nycgps

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Yes sir, Intake only so far ... if you count oil filler cap, higher psi radiator cap and Mazdaspeed bodykit into it ...

I replaced the clutch once to ACT Street strip, and I will replace it again soon back to OE, cuz I got it cheap, like 170 bux including shipping. @ that price, what more can u ask for ?

brokenhelmet

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brokenhelmet

hmm.... do you think SR highflow CAT will avoid warranty?...
I guess this kinda falls between crack tho..

nycgps

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yep, the whole package comes with everything u need

Clutch disc itself, pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing and a small packet of grease.

170 something shipped .... I think is the BEST u can get.

nycgps

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Im not sure about your local state laws, cuz in some states its illegal to replace the factory Cat with anything else, even its aftermarket cat. So u should check.

if theres no such laws in ur state and your cat is functional then its hard for them to pull any **** about it.

brokenhelmet

hmm... gotta fix everything up before I graduate and go back to Korea...
gonna take the car..... and prolly run in mountains, like I used to...haha..
will it be better to fix anything in Korea and call somekinda rotary engine specialist from japan?..haha.... 2 years left... dang..

brokenhelmet

and.... you thinking hard starting up may caused from carbon locking up too....?

max5roadster

what year do you have? Do you have the uprated starter and battery by chance? Get your car back and come down here to greenwood and go to Hubler Mazda, they are very good at working with you. Our club has several modified (intake/exhuast) cars they service without a second glance. They also sponsor our club, www.indyrx8club.com -so come by and see what they say. Your comp numbers may be fine, just your starter speed may be low(under 200 rpms), so they test is really inconclusive.

brokenhelmet

holy molly!! thanx!!!

CnnmnSchnpps

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aftermarket parts don't void the warranty.. check the Magnusson-Moss act, theres a couple threads around here

Couple of comments:
- make sure the dealer did the test properly (engine warm??)
- double check the numbers yourself. it's not too hard to do a compression test
- premix / cleaners may help you restore compression temporarily
- be happy they admit there's a problem. the dealer I took it to said a-ok when my numbers were below min
- good luck

brokenhelmet

Thanks..CnnmnSchnpps...
got back from dealer just now...
they said they were told from Mazda North America that there's no more warranty cuz I have aftermarket parts.... SR highflow CAT and Greddy Exhaust...
the thing is that.... they called 81 hundreds of dollars for replacement....
and... told me engine itself is 62 hundreds.....
So... I guess I gotta go to another dealer...
I think I'm gonna go to Hubler's Mazda...

CnnmnSchnpps

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^ chances are another dealer won't be able to help since your current one is already on your "case".. There is no possible way an exhaust could cause you to have low compression.. An intake, maybe. But not an exhaust. They have to prove to you that your parts were responsible for the failure. I suggest you remind them that until they do that, they are in violation of federal law