WTF loss of power in 3rd gear. A lot.
10-02-2009, 06:49 AM
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WTF loss of power in 3rd gear. A lot.
Ok so I was doing some pulls with a bunch of other Rx8's at a 22mph roll. So we had 2 successful runs. I pulled and did great through 1st and 2nd gear. But as soon as we got into 3rd I was immidiatly left behined. About 3 to 4 car lengths. I have a video of it that I will post up soon. There was one part when a rx8 started late in the race and pulled up right next to me at the end of 3rd gear. When we hit 4th we were neck and neck through the gear.
What are your ideas guys?
What's the problem?
How can I diagnose?
Can I fix it?
What are your ideas guys?
What's the problem?
How can I diagnose?
Can I fix it?
Last edited by NYC Drift King; 10-02-2009 at 06:52 AM.
10-02-2009, 07:25 AM
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Coils, plugs, wires for starters, and then try the cat. My car did something like that and after I did my tune up and got my new exhaust it quit. Also check for a vacuum leak.
You can always check the coils with an voltage meter, but I can't remember what the specs are you are looking for, someone probably knows it right off the top of there head.
The cat you'd have to take off and check, and if your gonna do that if it were me I'd wait till I got a midpipe unless your under 80k then you could take it to the dealer.
You can always check the coils with an voltage meter, but I can't remember what the specs are you are looking for, someone probably knows it right off the top of there head.
The cat you'd have to take off and check, and if your gonna do that if it were me I'd wait till I got a midpipe unless your under 80k then you could take it to the dealer.
10-02-2009, 12:35 PM
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It's only 3rd gear.
It's constant through the whole gear.
It's all the time.
I've never had a strong third. But for these other 8's to pull that hard there has to be a problem.
And it's weird because it doesn't feel slow in the 3rd like if I lost power out of no where. The only way I'm able to tell is when I run against other 8's. 1st,2nd, and 4th gears pulls no one will beet me but 3rd all other 8's just pull so much harder.
It's constant through the whole gear.
It's all the time.
I've never had a strong third. But for these other 8's to pull that hard there has to be a problem.
And it's weird because it doesn't feel slow in the 3rd like if I lost power out of no where. The only way I'm able to tell is when I run against other 8's. 1st,2nd, and 4th gears pulls no one will beet me but 3rd all other 8's just pull so much harder.
10-02-2009, 01:19 PM
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We all no a rx8 with coils, pulleys, intake, full exhaust, cai, and AP can still be beat by a stock 8.
Plus I only have a AEM CAI and HKS Legamax exhaust. Those two Mods aren't known to make a 8 slower.
Plus I only have a AEM CAI and HKS Legamax exhaust. Those two Mods aren't known to make a 8 slower.
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10-02-2009, 03:43 PM
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I'd reset your fuel trims. They are gear-specific I think, and if one of them got out of wack somehow, resetting it should fix the issue. Free solution that might work anyway.
10-02-2009, 05:05 PM
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10-02-2009, 06:48 PM
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Stop the car and turn it off, and then turn it to the on position and tap the brake pedal 20 times in 8 sec and you will see the oil pressure gauge sweep back and forth and that should help.
10-02-2009, 06:51 PM
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I believe it's the room fuse. Turning the wheel left and right is to take the traction control lights off when the car is off and the key and the on position.
10-02-2009, 10:20 PM
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I might have a similar problem but in second gear. Sometimes it revs up quickly, and other times it is really really slow. Gonna take it to the stealership this next friday to see whats up.
Btw wondering if plugs/coils (if that turns out to be the issue) are included in the warranty, or do I have to pay for them myself?
(and NYC Drift King sorry for thread jacking.)
Btw wondering if plugs/coils (if that turns out to be the issue) are included in the warranty, or do I have to pay for them myself?
(and NYC Drift King sorry for thread jacking.)
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10-02-2009, 11:35 PM
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Fuel trim is only used for closed loop operation, WOT defaults to the ECU maps. It then changes based on temperature and other stuff.
Coils/wires, your coils might be starting to fail. My car with 36K had a slight stumble, fixed it with new coils. If your coils are over 3 years old or have more than 30K miles, might as well change it to be safe. Just keep the old ones as spares if you have to.
I have a new idea. Is your car knocking? Knock sensor pulling timing?
Coils/wires, your coils might be starting to fail. My car with 36K had a slight stumble, fixed it with new coils. If your coils are over 3 years old or have more than 30K miles, might as well change it to be safe. Just keep the old ones as spares if you have to.
I have a new idea. Is your car knocking? Knock sensor pulling timing?
10-03-2009, 12:50 AM
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When was the last time you changed your plugs? a vegass member had this issue when trying to beat traffic, his 8 would bog down then ripp! turned out he had bad plugs and coils.
10-03-2009, 06:16 AM
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Fuel trim is only used for closed loop operation, WOT defaults to the ECU maps. It then changes based on temperature and other stuff.
Coils/wires, your coils might be starting to fail. My car with 36K had a slight stumble, fixed it with new coils. If your coils are over 3 years old or have more than 30K miles, might as well change it to be safe. Just keep the old ones as spares if you have to.
I have a new idea. Is your car knocking? Knock sensor pulling timing?
Coils/wires, your coils might be starting to fail. My car with 36K had a slight stumble, fixed it with new coils. If your coils are over 3 years old or have more than 30K miles, might as well change it to be safe. Just keep the old ones as spares if you have to.
I have a new idea. Is your car knocking? Knock sensor pulling timing?
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10-03-2009, 11:18 AM
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Ok replaceed the room fuse, and pulled the negitive battery cable. The car still feels slow. I ran a (16.09) 1/4mile today which sucks compared to the (14.1) I did at the begining of the summer. But it is wet outside I must say.
Im going to change the coils, plugs, and wires. After I'll update my sucky situation.
Im going to change the coils, plugs, and wires. After I'll update my sucky situation.
10-07-2009, 10:03 PM
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Subscribing... just so I learn what to check if I run into similar problem. By the way, I got some wires from Rotorsports Racing when I was at DGRR, great wires... butt dyno could tell a little difference, smoother revs. Hope you get it fixed before cold settles in, we're already getting bits of frost here in Iowa and I'm STILL waiting for my rims... hope they get here before the snow does! 