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Old May 9, 2013 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
Bay Area Autocross Forum: Northern California Events » Autocrossing's Carbon Footprint

Lots of back and forth, the opening post is a gross over simplification and is missing many points of carbon footprint impact.

But there is some info in there.


I wasn't really serious though. Just pointing out that anyone that consumes a wide range of petroleum products just for fun really doesn't have much of a platform to stand on regarding environmental impact of a single facet of emissions.
Thanks, yes I understood your point.
It's something I've often wondered about.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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when someone chooses autocrossing as a hobby( or any other petrol-driven hobby) their actions speak much louder than words. No lack of non-petrol hobbies out there to choose from. and NO you don't HAVE to a world-class athlete to participate. just get UP and MOVE.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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your all arguing about a decat as if its some tottaly immoral evil thing to do on a car that destroys cats its perfectly logical look at carburated cars they dont need a cat. and you know damn well those things are polluting as well.

anything and everything you consume is a direct danger to the planet

the human race is the virus this planet was infected with we cannot stop it and we cannot control it no matter what. the only way to STOP destroying our atmoshpere is to rid it of humankind we need to consume the earth in order to survive and thats the only part of our genetic code that is hardwired SURVIVE AND REPRODUCE at any cost

are you prepared to die for a planet that will eventually destroy itself in the end?

do you really think there is a way for you to even eat tonight without destroying the planet?
vegtables? theres over 10 billion people and not nearly enough leaves tomake a salad everyday for every person

please take your futile attempts to "save" the planet and ignorant contraditing and hypocritical judgments elsewhere

you took your part in destroying the planet this morning when you turned your shower on without even realizing it.

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Old May 9, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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Whoa,
Pretty deep man, my hippie friends from the 70's would be totally bummed.

I agree with you for the most part without quite so much fatalism & Gloomy Gusness, more of a realistic resignation.

I watched for years as Louisiana's coastal marshes quickly disappeared.

It ticks me off that somehow California and Florida's coastlines are deemed more valuable, oil & gas drilling are stymied at every turn and who cares about stoopid Loosiana anyway?

Meanwhile, fracking is allowed with no regard whatsoever to environmental impact.

So, I should feel bad about going catless?

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Old May 9, 2013 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCajun

Meanwhile, fracking is allowed with no regard whatsoever to environmental ?
They're starting to do that here too and I'm not the only one that's very pissed off about it!!!!

I'm still learning about the cat though.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Personal responsibility - what kind of world do you want to leave for future generations including your own?

Sadly, there is no shortage of filthy, putrid slobs who think the world is a public restroom for them to p-ss and sh-t wherever they please without any thought of the next user ...
and you like the rest of us drive a gas guzzling highly inefficient vehicle that spews noxious emissions.... inefficient to the point it will shoot flames out the tail pipe due to the unburned fuel it farts out the exhaust pipe....

hypocrite much??

china and most of south central america **** more pollution into the atmosphere than us 'mericans ever dreamed of....

guess we'll see your rx8 in the FS section and your gonna buy a little electric shitbox....
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Actually, Team doesn't drive an RX-8. Well, outside of short autocross runs. Trailered to and from events I believe, sits in the garage between events.

I may be inaccurate, but that is my recollection.


Still, he purchased a car specifically to consume petroleum products for fun, so the shoe still fits.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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I paid $1150 to avoid polluting the air and still have the performance of a catless midpipe, and you could just as easily say that by keeping my mileage down (under 13k miles total on a 2005 model) I'm doing my part to keep the petroleum use to a minimum

my other two vehicles are ULEV Hondas if that matters ...
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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You still purchased a car specifically to consume petroleum products for fun.

A cat-equipped car isn't "no emissions", it's "lower emissions". You are still producing those emissions just for fun, not to mention the gas, oil, tires, and the environmental impact of making the car in the first place.

If you are serious enough about protecting the environment to feel a need to rail against people who run catless, perhaps you should get rid of your cars and use a bike. Pick a past-time of something like jogging.


If you aren't that serious/extreme, then you really don't have much grounds to complain about people running catless.




I'm sure STX rules that keep you from going catless have zero impact on your decision as well.

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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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i sprained my eyes rolling them....
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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fyi a pedal driven bike uses rubber tires made from crude oil and can only be burned as they do not decompose. same for the tires on your prius.

no matter what you do you are STILL destroying the earths natural resources and slowly killing the planet
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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Yes, I'm aware of that, but I'm not about to suggest suicide.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:42 PM
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no riwwp that was for team rx8 sorry i didnt qoute. but you know what the funny thing is? suicide IS the only way to do your part for the planet hahaha
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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I love a good debate.
I ride a bike and drive an 8. Slightly hypocritical I know.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Lol wow. That was some serious bait you cast out there.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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yet certain people expect me to care about really meaningless stuff like oversensitive feelings and the like

I ride a bike too
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Old May 9, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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So, When are you starting the next chapter of greenpeace, since that's your chosen point of caring?
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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expressing an opinion on a public forum is not the same thing as gathering a group of f'ing idiots and stalking someone over it
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Well, you are halfway there.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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careful, I know where you live ...
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:04 PM
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My 2.7lb puppy will protect me. I have no fear.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
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I wasn't really serious though. Just pointing out that anyone that consumes a wide range of petroleum products just for fun really doesn't have much of a platform to stand on regarding environmental impact of a single facet of emissions.
Really? ? ?

Then why do all these people drive SUV's and complain and pass global warming laws?

Is not driving an SUV akin to driving for fun, except driving for fun is part time and driveing an SUV is a daily thing that pollutes more?
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Please no, don't get me started on Greenpeace...........
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Old May 9, 2013 | 09:58 PM
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Really? ? ?

Then why do all these people drive SUV's and complain and pass global warming laws?

Is not driving an SUV akin to driving for fun, except driving for fun is part time and driveing an SUV is a daily thing that pollutes more?
They are even more hypocritical in my opinion.
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Old May 9, 2013 | 11:19 PM
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the people who have suv's cant fit theyre family of 9 in a honda civic

but a family of 4 complaining about eco awareness is an open invitation for ridicule
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