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Old 10-08-2008, 11:44 PM
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Water for gas & rotarys

I have started to do some research on the water hybrid kits. (search google "water for gas" to find out more). ANYWAYS my question is would this be just as good in a rotary engine as it is in the piston engine.
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Damn u freaking noob, u dont have to make the same thread twice in 2 different parts of the forum.
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lol should of expected a reply like that from these forums, But yes sorry for posting twice, agreed that was a noob mistake on my part
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LOL....

Yes, it would be just as good for a rotary as for a piston engine.

This has been discussed to death. It's snake oil.
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awsome! glad to hear. Now i have some work to do tomorrow. & Ive seen sites say it can improve power. True for the rotary? and if so what type of power gain we talking?
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Read my last post slowly and carefully. Then, read it again.

This WILL NOT WORK, ever, at all, NEVER. Are we clear.

Yes, you can make Hydrogen with water, table salt, two electrodes and a frickin' LEMON.

No, you can not produce enough H to make any difference in your car's performance from the power in your car's battery and/or alternator.

If for some reason (space aliens, perhaps) you could generate enough H to keep the engine running with less gasoline, then the power you consume to generate the H is greater than the power produced by burning the H. This is a basic law of physics.

Find another topic, or the civic forum - where they may still believe in this.

Clear enough?
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LOL....

Yes, it would be just as good for a rotary as for a piston engine.
ok read carefully...?

"This WILL NOT WORK, ever, at all, NEVER. Are we clear."
Ok? you sound like the oil companys. But thanks for you help i will take my primitive questions eles where. To where "they may still believe in this".

OH, and check out youtube's "H20 car" i gusse those japanese just have a way of creating the impossible?

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Originally Posted by John290
ok read carefully...?

"This WILL NOT WORK, ever, at all, NEVER. Are we clear."
Ok? you sound like the oil companys. But thanks for you help i will take my primitive questions eles where. To where "they may still believe in this".

OH, and check out youtube's "H20 car" i gusse those japanese just have a way of creating the impossible?
You sound like the hydrogen generator guys.

We never hear from them again after they install them because they never work.

Wanna save gas? get the lead out of your right foot.
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Originally Posted by John290
ok read carefully...?

"This WILL NOT WORK, ever, at all, NEVER. Are we clear."
Ok? you sound like the oil companys. But thanks for you help i will take my primitive questions eles where. To where "they may still believe in this".

OH, and check out youtube's "H20 car" i gusse those japanese just have a way of creating the impossible?
so what you're trying to proof ? that you're a troll ?

on paper you can produce power out of H2O, but the power "required" to convert it into energy is bigger than the power it produces.

So tell me, how does this going to work ? noobie troll.
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oh, wait, my mistake, you ARE one of those hydrogen generator guys.

please go do this and come back showing massive fuel economy / power gains. You'd be the first person to ever do so, and you'd shut up a hell of a lot of people if you had conclusive evidence it worked.

As far as I'm concerned, hydrogen generator kits are only a method of scamming the government out of tax rebates.

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Stan Meyers ... Just another one of thoes noobie troll inventors...?

lol and you never hear from them again becuase all the succesful ones seem to disappear shortly after their invention become extremely successful.

AND what is the power required to generate the HHO vs the power the HHO has?
what kit are you refereing you numbers to? Please use Stan Meyers invention for your stats as his is one i would like to duplicate.
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For anyone interested in learning about the fraudulent criminal Stan Meyers was can easily just look him up on Wikipedia.

FWIW: Conspiracy theorists would have you believe he was poisoned because his invention was a threat to oil companies. He actually died from a cerebral aneurysm. It was natural causes.
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Well i surprsingly have found a fellow rx8 owner that claims to be running the hybrid kit. ( http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4JIphreS0&feature=user - For thoes interested) So i should no longer need to directe my question to this rather unhelpful thread.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by John290
Well i surprsingly have found a fellow rx8 owner that claims to be running the hybrid kit. ( http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4JIphreS0&feature=user - For thoes interested) So i should no longer need to directe my question to this rather unhelpful thread.

Thanks
While it is technically possible to use water for fuel in a lab environment. It is not possible in real life, it requires more energy extract the hydrogen from the water than you receive from combusting it.
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man. I wish i could have some of what these guys are smoking.


Why is it that all these guys with hydrogen generators sound exactly the same? I'm beginning to think its just 1 guy who keeps coming back to the site every few months and says "I'm really gonna do it this time!"

If the oil companies really will kill to keep this invention secret, don't you think you should avoid dabbling in super science like this?
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Brown Gas my ***. Good luck with your project... You'll save gas cause it will lighten your wallet!
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Originally Posted by John290
ok read carefully...?

"This WILL NOT WORK, ever, at all, NEVER. Are we clear."
Ok? you sound like the oil companys. But thanks for you help i will take my primitive questions eles where. To where "they may still believe in this".

OH, and check out youtube's "H20 car" i gusse those japanese just have a way of creating the impossible?
Because if it's on YouTube, it must be true.
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He actually died from a cerebral aneurysm. It was natural causes.
Aneurism huh?
There are a few ways that I can think of quickly....
Acid or Base compound injection?
Properly applied electricity?
Embolism?
Catheter?
Microwave?
Combination of two or more of the above?

PS: I am not a theorist, conspiracy or otherwise.....
Just saying, it's possible, if given sufficient trust, for pigs to fly.
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Originally Posted by John290
Well i surprsingly have found a fellow rx8 owner that claims to be running the hybrid kit. ( http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax4JIphreS0&feature=user - For thoes interested) So i should no longer need to directe my question to this rather unhelpful thread.

Thanks

get back to use when you are rich and rule the world with this info.. till then **** off!

beers
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Originally Posted by NotAPreppie
Because if it's on YouTube, it must be true.
Not at all. However not EVERYTHING your interested is on my local news chanel. Youtube is my tv, with many chanels.

AND we all know that not everything on tv is true, Sometimes you have to use your own judgement... (special thoes damn reality shows)
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sorry,

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If Billy Maze says it, it must be true! As seen on Youtube! From your post I seriously think you don't even understand how an engine works, rotary or otherwise. You get this to work, feel free to rub our faces in all your riches!
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You can separate Water into Hydrogen and Oxygen very easily, just start an Aluminum or Magnesium fire.

Yeah, this raises other problems for an Aluminum engine.
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The problem with the internet is ignorant people believe everything they read instead of determining their own logical answers.


BTW John, we are all rotary drivers, if this worked wouldn't at least 50% of us have it? You fell for a scam which turned you into a megaphone for a scam.


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