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juanjux 03-21-2011 06:12 AM

Torque (Android app) AFR for the RX8?
 
Hi,

Do any of you know how to add the AFR dial to the "Torque" Android app?

The program allow you to add custom PIDs adding the hex code, minimum and maximum values, scale factor and equation, but I've no idea what would be the values for the AFR for the RX8 (googled it but could not find anything).

Thanks.

neXib 03-21-2011 03:46 PM

AFR values are pretty much the same for all cars, you can just put 0 to 30 or so to have a decent scale on it.

It will be about 13-14 for cruise, 11 for pedal to the metal and 20+ for foot off gas.

juanjux 03-22-2011 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by neXib (Post 3919710)
AFR values are pretty much the same for all cars, you can just put 0 to 30 or so to have a decent scale on it.

It will be about 13-14 for cruise, 11 for pedal to the metal and 20+ for foot off gas.

Yes, but I need the hexadecimal PID code and the formula multiplying the ECU provided voltage to get the final value.

juanjux 03-22-2011 02:41 AM

Found it!

http://www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/tech-...azda-pids.html

I'm pasting them here too, for convenience:

PIDS that work out of the box with Torque:
Load
Fuel Level
RPM
Intake Temp
Intake manifold pressure(in kPa)
Coolant Temp
Vacuum/Boost Gauge
Barometric Pressure
Mass air flow rate(in g/s not voltage)
Throttle Position
Timing Advance(Works, at WOT shows near 0 degrees. Yay stock tune!)

Enhanced PIDs you have to manually enter
Long name & short name can be whatever you want. I tried to stick to conventional names.

LTFT Long Term Fuel Trim?
OBD2 PID: 0107
Long Name: LTFT
Short Name: LTFT
Minimum Value: -25
Maximum Value: 25
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: %
Equation: (A-128)*100/128
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

STFT Short Term Fuel Trim?
OBD2 PID: 0106
Long Name: STFT
Short Name: STFT
Minimum Value: -25
Maximum Value: 25
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: %
Equation: (A-128)*100/128
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

Fuel Pressure
OBD2 PID: 0123
Long Name: FP
Short Name: FP
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 2500
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: %
Equation: (A*256+B)*10*.145
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

Open Loop Commanded Air/Fuel Ratio
OBD2 PID: 0144
Long Name: AFR
Short Name: AFR
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 20
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: A/F
Equation: (A*256+B)/32768*14.7
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

OEM Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio
OBD2 PID: 0134
Long Name: WAFR
Short Name: WAFR
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 20
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: A/F
Equation: (A*256+B)/32768*14.7
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

Cat Temp
OBD2 PID: 013c
Long Name: Cat Temp
Short Name: Cat Temp
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 2000
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: F
Equation: ((A*256+B)/10-40)*1.8+32
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

Absolute Load
OBD2 PID: 0143
Long Name: Abs Load
Short Name: Abs Load
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 255
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: %
Equation: (A*256+B)*100/255
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

Intake Manifold Absolute Pressure
OBD2 PID: 010b
Long Name: IMAP
Short Name: IMAP
Minimum Value: 0
Maximum Value: 100
Scale Factor: x1
Unit Type: PSI
Equation: A*.145
Gen 1 Status:
Gen 2 Status: Working and confirmed
MS6 Status:

neXib 03-22-2011 03:41 AM

Cool, thanks

Domenico 03-22-2011 04:01 AM

Agreed now people don't have to get accessport if they just want to reset CEL. Good find, I didn't even know about this.

bse50 03-22-2011 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by Domenico (Post 3920273)
Agreed now people don't have to get accessport if they just want to reset CEL. Good find, I didn't even know about this.

There are dozens of simple obdii scanners that can clean the CELs...

Domenico 03-22-2011 05:09 AM

Well theirs a lot of people that come on here wondering what they can do to clear CELs. The only replys they get is accessport. Access port is a great thing to have but if your just looking for a way too keep your CEL off this is it also the other attributes the app has.

laythor 03-24-2011 01:31 AM

fyi, the 8 does not have a way to measure fuel pressure. Just tested all the other PID's and they're working fine with Torque

nice to see AFR's without having to plug in my access port.

Grimm0ne 03-24-2011 09:18 PM

how does this work with out a cable? I know there is probably an OBDII port but just woundering if there is a cable out there, i have the Droid2 so hey a $4 app + cable sure beats standalone to check things lol

laythor 03-24-2011 09:27 PM

bluetooth dongle plugs into your obdii port.. phone reads that through bt naturally :)

Grimm0ne 03-24-2011 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by laythor (Post 3923321)
bluetooth dongle plugs into your obdii port.. phone reads that through bt naturally :)

wicked.... no more getting the usb cord tangled under the leg, or threw the e-brake handle or just forgetting to unplug it from the OBD port and droping your laptop..... :wallbash:

juanjux 03-25-2011 03:30 AM

I was thinking on leaving the OBDII bluetooth dongle always connected, but I've noticed that the car always provide energy even if the contact is off and I fear to drain the battery; the dongle I have ("PLX Kiwi") doesn't seem to auto turn off (I waited for 10 minutes).

laythor 03-25-2011 10:48 AM

I have the kiwi dongle and just turn off the switch on it when i get out of the car.

DeViLbOi 03-25-2011 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by Domenico (Post 3920281)
Well theirs a lot of people that come on here wondering what they can do to clear CELs. The only replys they get is accessport. Access port is a great thing to have but if your just looking for a way too keep your CEL off this is it also the other attributes the app has.

The difference between clearing and hiding a CEL is great. As far as I can tell Torque can only clear the CEL, not mask/hide it.

se3p_s 07-11-2011 11:18 AM

I have obd2 cabel bt i don't have the tune softwear can any one give me the link or name of the software where i can tunemy rx8....

rickeo 07-11-2011 12:33 PM

I have the Kiwi BT dongle and I leave it connected 24/7 and don't turn it off. Its been that way for 6 months now and my battery's fine.

Also, its true that these adapters will only clear the CEL until you turn the car off and back on again.

RIWWP 07-11-2011 01:12 PM

I've had the ODB+Key as the dongle for a while now, though I use it more on my other cars than the 8 (since I also have the AP). I've found that it doesn't like the 8 all that much. Plugging in the dongle and opening the app disables my TCS/DSC. Have to disconnect and remove the dongle and power off the car before it will recognize it again.

Anyone else seen this? No issues at all on my Mazda5 or my Miata.

ThatNewGuy 07-23-2011 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4027863)
I've had the ODB+Key as the dongle for a while now, though I use it more on my other cars than the 8 (since I also have the AP). I've found that it doesn't like the 8 all that much. Plugging in the dongle and opening the app disables my TCS/DSC. Have to disconnect and remove the dongle and power off the car before it will recognize it again.

Anyone else seen this? No issues at all on my Mazda5 or my Miata.

Just started using mine yesterday, and my TCS/DSC are working fine.

rickeo 07-23-2011 04:24 PM

It looks like one of the most recent updates brought A/FR support natively to Torque.

Speed_8 07-23-2011 05:36 PM

[QUOTE=Also, its true that these adapters will only clear the CEL until you turn the car off and back on again.[/QUOTE]

I use the Torque app, with a BT android phone, when i clear the CEL it actually goes away until the problem occurs once more. For eg: I had a P2405 code, cleared it but came back on a week later, cleared again, came back on a around 3 days after that..Unless someone has a serious problem that the CEL won't clear

flametail 03-25-2012 11:07 AM

Sorry to thread revive but I figured this would be a good place to ask since the custom PIDs are listed.

Is there any way to get an oil pressure gauge on Torque? The one that comes with the program doesn't read.

paimon.soror 03-25-2012 11:12 AM

there is no oil pressure reading on the canbus so no you cannot.

ShellDude 03-25-2012 11:28 AM

dashcommand recognizes all the mazda pids out of the box and has a better skin than torque imho

flametail 03-25-2012 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by ShellDude (Post 4220948)
dashcommand recognizes all the mazda pids out of the box and has a better skin than torque imho

How many more does it recognize? I don't see a few pids and a better skin being worth $35.


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