So madd. Should I sell my car now?
02-10-2010, 06:29 PM
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U know, more power to you if you like Faulty engines, I on the other side dont. Only fault I can blame myself for is not changing the coils, "was planning on changing it later in time" If the engine would of been damaged cuz of the coils, then blame me, but they wernt, Carbon build up and tear and wear caused low compression, at least thats what the service person told me at mazda. Its nice of mazda to ramp up the warranty, is not like im a big timmer anyways to really be able to win a lawsuit against MAZDA, But still, the fact still remains, this cars were rushed out "o4s and 05s, They are faulty... and about your engines that you are talking about"150k without no problem" well lucky for them, " THE FEW"
weak/failed coil = incomplete burn = massive carbon build up
so whos fault is that ? you.
so, stop crying, you fucked your car up. dont blame Mazda.
02-10-2010, 06:40 PM
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Wow, how fun is it to read your response, I like it though.. You going off by how many people come here to report engine failure, and then adding a lets say " guess" adition... .. Hmmm.. smart I c.. Sell it, I will, Maybe get a Z and I wouldnt have to worry about """" ohh dont turn it off while is cold, Ohh, Dont add any mods cuz it will ovid your warranty,,, ohh, redline it a day, if not ur screwed. ohh,,, ahh I dont wanna keep on going, what for, now< if anybody asking me, well how was it when you owend the 8,, Ima clearly state ... CACA... google dat up.. since you seem like you have alot of time in your hands comming here every week to see how many people are complaining about engine failure... U worried about resale value, why, dont you love your 8.. arent u planning on keeping it, then you woudnt have a problem.
You got a first year model car. just like any other first year model, it WILL HAVE issues that will be resolve in future models. I guess you are too ignorant to understand such simple fact ?
Get a Z and dont have to shut it off cold? get a Z and watch your gasket leak ? my car never flood, I shut it off cold, like 20 degrees kind of cold. no issue.
Try to mod the **** out of your Z and ask Nissan to fix it, see if they will do it. moron. and you make it sound like Mazda/Nissan should fix whatever issue you have, even though you mod the **** out of it and blow things up here and there. wow. talk about a crying baby.
I dont redline everyday, but unlike you, I actually keep my coils UP TO DATE. so ahh, no issues.
the simple fact is that, you are nothing but a crying moron. the biggest problem with the 8 community now is that we got way too many dumb asses like you. It made us all look bad. sad.
do us one last favor, sell your 8 and go away.
02-10-2010, 06:42 PM
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Coils mest up the engine, huh.. OK, I guess i'll tell the rotary specialist at the mazda dealer who told me the opposite, and the thousands of others who are in the same ship as me.. hmmm.. intresting..
02-10-2010, 06:46 PM
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and where is your "thousands of others" came from ? your *** ? lmao.
the opposite ? so you're saying the "rotary specialist" told you that the engine messed the coils up ? WOW TALK ABOUt FAILED LMAO ROFL
seriously , just get lost. troll.
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I'm on my third motor. I haven't really had issues with the engine replacements themselves, though if you don't stay on top of them the dealers do try to make every extra cent they can off of them (extra services, an oil change, etc..). It is really annoying though, quite an inconvenience even if it is paid for for the most part.
As far as selling it, if you like the car I'd keep it; you're getting a fresh motor that is much newer than the original. You have a long engine warranty ahead of you. Once past 100K, it is more of an issue, since some (including myself) wouldn't or couldn't reasonably replace it out of warranty.
As far as selling it, if you like the car I'd keep it; you're getting a fresh motor that is much newer than the original. You have a long engine warranty ahead of you. Once past 100K, it is more of an issue, since some (including myself) wouldn't or couldn't reasonably replace it out of warranty.
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02-10-2010, 09:42 PM
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This post just proof that you dont know **** about this car and how thie engine works in general
and where is your "thousands of others" came from ? your *** ? lmao.
the opposite ? so you're saying the "rotary specialist" told you that the engine messed the coils up ? WOW TALK ABOUt FAILED LMAO ROFL
seriously , just get lost. troll.
and where is your "thousands of others" came from ? your *** ? lmao.
the opposite ? so you're saying the "rotary specialist" told you that the engine messed the coils up ? WOW TALK ABOUt FAILED LMAO ROFL
seriously , just get lost. troll.
No I dont know ****, right,, and you do.. Ignorant fool... By oposite I didnt mean " Engine messing up the coils... I never said that. And ROTARY SPECIALIST is what he said he was. And getting lost, Keep writting, I love reading/responding to the caca you write..
02-11-2010, 08:49 AM
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Engine failure is a rarity (remember that most people don't post "my engine is fine" on a regular basis). Understandably when it happens to you tho' it's not a rarity and is irritating.
Although rare, it is statistically significant enough that Mazda 1. innitiated an MSP to flash the ECU for greater apex seal oil metering, 2. added a 3rd oil injector in the Series 2 (2009 on) and 3. offered an 8/100k drivetrain warranty extension.
Again, getting a reman engine is a good thing, if a bit inconvenient for a relatively short time period. You pretty much have a new car and can be availed of better maintenance practices going forward.
OP, bear with the process, enjoy your "new" '8, and please in the future don't be so quick to post "the sky is falling" type threads as they unfairly portray to new readers a fairly isolated negative against the vehicle's generally above average reliability rating.
Although rare, it is statistically significant enough that Mazda 1. innitiated an MSP to flash the ECU for greater apex seal oil metering, 2. added a 3rd oil injector in the Series 2 (2009 on) and 3. offered an 8/100k drivetrain warranty extension.
Again, getting a reman engine is a good thing, if a bit inconvenient for a relatively short time period. You pretty much have a new car and can be availed of better maintenance practices going forward.
OP, bear with the process, enjoy your "new" '8, and please in the future don't be so quick to post "the sky is falling" type threads as they unfairly portray to new readers a fairly isolated negative against the vehicle's generally above average reliability rating.
02-11-2010, 09:12 AM
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engine failure in th epre 09 rx8 is NOT a rarity. Jesus--get the facts straight. Every rx8 owner in Ga that I know (and that is a fair amount) has had to have a new engine except one, and his power is down by a noticable margin. Some of them have had 2.
Engine failure is not a rarity---its rather common. Unfortunatly.
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Engine failure is not a rarity---its rather common. Unfortunatly.
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02-11-2010, 09:57 AM
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OD, for the sake of my napkin math, care to share how many it is of the GA owners?
Personally on my end, I know 11, with 1 failure earlier this week at ~70k, and 1 failure last week at ~135k. The other 9 are running just fine, original engine, most in the 50-90k range.
Maybe the failure rate is higher the closer you get to the equator?
Personally on my end, I know 11, with 1 failure earlier this week at ~70k, and 1 failure last week at ~135k. The other 9 are running just fine, original engine, most in the 50-90k range.
Maybe the failure rate is higher the closer you get to the equator?
02-11-2010, 10:56 AM
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Look at it this way...
You could be like my friends wife who had a Camary.
She loaned to her kid and the car was totaled.
When they told the insurance company that the accelerator got stuck...
They LAUGHED at you.
This was two to three years ago.
Or you could be in the Hospital because the brake didn't work right on your Pirus.
Things happen on any manufactured car. You get a new rebuilt engine from Mazda and your good to go.
There are a lot of horror stories about new cars and all manufacturers.
You think its BAD?
By a used car and you have a 50% chance you will have a problem.
I'm sorry this happened to you butt like is not a box of choclates.
At least you have a job.
You could be like my friends wife who had a Camary.
She loaned to her kid and the car was totaled.
When they told the insurance company that the accelerator got stuck...
They LAUGHED at you.
This was two to three years ago.
Or you could be in the Hospital because the brake didn't work right on your Pirus.
Things happen on any manufactured car. You get a new rebuilt engine from Mazda and your good to go.
There are a lot of horror stories about new cars and all manufacturers.
You think its BAD?
By a used car and you have a 50% chance you will have a problem.
I'm sorry this happened to you butt like is not a box of choclates.
At least you have a job.
02-11-2010, 11:18 AM
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Despite my negative opinion about the RX8's engine failure rate, I honestly have to say that mazda has done a good job in regards to taking care of me, "hoping that the car comes out good once i pick it up" Although I am trying to get a rental from them, since my rental request at mazda got decline. You know, I have nothing against mazda, and if I did, Im pretty sure I coudnt do anthing about it except complain and disccuss it like ive been doing. My girl has a 6 and it runs nice with 55k on it. and one of my boys has a mazda 02 protage, with 165k , and it runs pretty good still. Is not that I deslike Mazda, Its just, I feel they should of tested those engines in my opinion a little more to prevent hedecks like these, which im pretty sure are not cheap for them.. and are incovinient to their customers. And Ill say it again, if it was one or two hundred people fine, But no, The cases of countless people with engine failures at such early life that ive read about let alone in these forums are enough for me to keep me worried/concerned... thanks to everyone for their help/feedback/remarks..
02-11-2010, 12:37 PM
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It's rare in New England. Could be our cooler clime, and/or you Georgia boys run 'em pretty hard. 
engine failure in th epre 09 rx8 is NOT a rarity. Jesus--get the facts straight. Every rx8 owner in Ga that I know (and that is a fair amount) has had to have a new engine except one, and his power is down by a noticable margin. Some of them have had 2.
Engine failure is not a rarity---its rather common. Unfortunatly.
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Engine failure is not a rarity---its rather common. Unfortunatly.
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02-11-2010, 10:23 PM
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Dude the thing your not getting here is that we love our cars. To enthusiasts a car is something that they enjoy operating. They enjoy going to the dragon with their girlfriend/wife and their rx8. I personally have had the car for a month and am getting a new engine just like you. But i can't wait for it to get back to me so I can drive it again. Obviously you don't like your 8. And obviously you you'll never like a rotary engine so don't own one anymore. Sell your 8 and get a 350z. My mother has one and its a great car. Your car should make you happy. But apparently you don't own a sports car to give you enjoyment. If you look at the people your arguing with they are arguing because they love their cars and they love driving them. And btw don't buy a Honda because then you'll be a pain in the butt to the honda forum guys about your airbag.
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Dude the thing your not getting here is that we love our cars. To enthusiasts a car is something that they enjoy operating. They enjoy going to the dragon with their girlfriend/wife and their rx8. I personally have had the car for a month and am getting a new engine just like you. But i can't wait for it to get back to me so I can drive it again. Obviously you don't like your 8. And obviously you you'll never like a rotary engine so don't own one anymore. Sell your 8 and get a 350z. My mother has one and its a great car. Your car should make you happy. But apparently you don't own a sports car to give you enjoyment. If you look at the people your arguing with they are arguing because they love their cars and they love driving them. And btw don't buy a Honda because then you'll be a pain in the butt to the honda forum guys about your airbag.
Is not that I dont like my 8, I bought the car because I liked it, and although friends told me to stay away from them, I still bough one. i was just hoping what they told me didnt come true. I guess I wasnt so lucky, and yes is a new engine, and yes is nice of mazda to extend warranty, but My point is not that.. I ve seen here people who are on their 3rd engine.. That is just crazy.. Maybe you are "enthusiasts" and love having your car broken so you can work on them , not me. And im not arguing with anybody here, im just expressing my opinion. weather is a bad one or not, I can still express it... And im not telling nobody to stop loving their cars, I havent said that..
02-12-2010, 10:13 AM
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Is not that I dont like my 8, I bought the car because I liked it, and although friends told me to stay away from them, I still bough one. i was just hoping what they told me didnt come true. I guess I wasnt so lucky, and yes is a new engine, and yes is nice of mazda to extend warranty, but My point is not that.. I ve seen here people who are on their 3rd engine.. That is just crazy.. Maybe you are "enthusiasts" and love having your car broken so you can work on them , not me. And im not arguing with anybody here, im just expressing my opinion. weather is a bad one or not, I can still express it... And im not telling nobody to stop loving their cars, I havent said that..
I dont see you talked about the engines that lasted over 150K miles.
you're whinning like a little baby, just sell your car already.. jesus.
02-12-2010, 10:15 AM
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Some things you might consider SilverRenesis...
- when engines were initially replaced, problems with the remanufacturing happened. This caused a lot of the 2/3 engine rebuilds because bad engines were replaced with badly rebuilt engines. That can be put on Mazda, but they did fix the process, and even shipped in truly 'new' short blocks for a time from Japan to keep the flow of replacements going while they fixed the rebuild process of broken engines. I have one of these new JDM engines and it's better, stronger, more responsive than the original.
- replacing an engine at the dealer is not just plug and play and away you go. The dealer only gets a short block. EVERYTHING on the old engine other than the block has to be removed and reinstalled on the replacement....right down to the spark plugs. This leaves a lot of room for screwups - dealer mechanic screwups to be exact. This can account for a bunch more 2/3 engine rebuilds as well. Ask your dealer how many hours they charge Mazda for doing an engine swap. It's a complicated and precise time consuming process.
- for Mazda there would have been a huge uptick in cost had they been installing completely new engines with all external (to the short block) components included...and besides those components were not failing.
- everyone hears about the nightmares and they are repeated and rehashed over and over seemingly without end. This has the effect of seemingly multipling the problems experienced by the group as a whole, at least in perception, but at the same time the people who get engines replaced and everything is ok (and there have been many many of these), generally are never heard from again. Think about it.
- no one 'loves' a broken car, just so they can work on it, but when it's a known issue, getting it taken care of because it finally did happen to you, does tend to bring some relief from worry and gives the owner a feeling of newfound confidence in their car, not less. These are good things, not bad. That's a lot of what posters are expressing here.
- when engines were initially replaced, problems with the remanufacturing happened. This caused a lot of the 2/3 engine rebuilds because bad engines were replaced with badly rebuilt engines. That can be put on Mazda, but they did fix the process, and even shipped in truly 'new' short blocks for a time from Japan to keep the flow of replacements going while they fixed the rebuild process of broken engines. I have one of these new JDM engines and it's better, stronger, more responsive than the original.
- replacing an engine at the dealer is not just plug and play and away you go. The dealer only gets a short block. EVERYTHING on the old engine other than the block has to be removed and reinstalled on the replacement....right down to the spark plugs. This leaves a lot of room for screwups - dealer mechanic screwups to be exact. This can account for a bunch more 2/3 engine rebuilds as well. Ask your dealer how many hours they charge Mazda for doing an engine swap. It's a complicated and precise time consuming process.
- for Mazda there would have been a huge uptick in cost had they been installing completely new engines with all external (to the short block) components included...and besides those components were not failing.
- everyone hears about the nightmares and they are repeated and rehashed over and over seemingly without end. This has the effect of seemingly multipling the problems experienced by the group as a whole, at least in perception, but at the same time the people who get engines replaced and everything is ok (and there have been many many of these), generally are never heard from again. Think about it.
- no one 'loves' a broken car, just so they can work on it, but when it's a known issue, getting it taken care of because it finally did happen to you, does tend to bring some relief from worry and gives the owner a feeling of newfound confidence in their car, not less. These are good things, not bad. That's a lot of what posters are expressing here.
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Some things you might consider SilverRenesis...
- when engines were initially replaced, problems with the remanufacturing happened. This caused a lot of the 2/3 engine rebuilds because bad engines were replaced with badly rebuilt engines. That can be put on Mazda, but they did fix the process, and even shipped in truly 'new' short blocks for a time from Japan to keep the flow of replacements going while they fixed the rebuild process of broken engines. I have one of these new JDM engines and it's better, stronger, more responsive than the original.
- replacing an engine at the dealer is not just plug and play and away you go. The dealer only gets a short block. EVERYTHING on the old engine other than the block has to be removed and reinstalled on the replacement....right down to the spark plugs. This leaves a lot of room for screwups - dealer mechanic screwups to be exact. This can account for a bunch more 2/3 engine rebuilds as well. Ask your dealer how many hours they charge Mazda for doing an engine swap. It's a complicated and precise time consuming process.
- for Mazda there would have been a huge uptick in cost had they been installing completely new engines with all external (to the short block) components included...and besides those components were not failing.
- everyone hears about the nightmares and they are repeated and rehashed over and over seemingly without end. This has the effect of seemingly multipling the problems experienced by the group as a whole, at least in perception, but at the same time the people who get engines replaced and everything is ok (and there have been many many of these), generally are never heard from again. Think about it.
- no one 'loves' a broken car, just so they can work on it, but when it's a known issue, getting it taken care of because it finally did happen to you, does tend to bring some relief from worry and gives the owner a feeling of newfound confidence in their car, not less. These are good things, not bad. That's a lot of what posters are expressing here.
- when engines were initially replaced, problems with the remanufacturing happened. This caused a lot of the 2/3 engine rebuilds because bad engines were replaced with badly rebuilt engines. That can be put on Mazda, but they did fix the process, and even shipped in truly 'new' short blocks for a time from Japan to keep the flow of replacements going while they fixed the rebuild process of broken engines. I have one of these new JDM engines and it's better, stronger, more responsive than the original.
- replacing an engine at the dealer is not just plug and play and away you go. The dealer only gets a short block. EVERYTHING on the old engine other than the block has to be removed and reinstalled on the replacement....right down to the spark plugs. This leaves a lot of room for screwups - dealer mechanic screwups to be exact. This can account for a bunch more 2/3 engine rebuilds as well. Ask your dealer how many hours they charge Mazda for doing an engine swap. It's a complicated and precise time consuming process.
- for Mazda there would have been a huge uptick in cost had they been installing completely new engines with all external (to the short block) components included...and besides those components were not failing.
- everyone hears about the nightmares and they are repeated and rehashed over and over seemingly without end. This has the effect of seemingly multipling the problems experienced by the group as a whole, at least in perception, but at the same time the people who get engines replaced and everything is ok (and there have been many many of these), generally are never heard from again. Think about it.
- no one 'loves' a broken car, just so they can work on it, but when it's a known issue, getting it taken care of because it finally did happen to you, does tend to bring some relief from worry and gives the owner a feeling of newfound confidence in their car, not less. These are good things, not bad. That's a lot of what posters are expressing here.
I have to say, well put response, I respect that.
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Question to Spin9k
by short block what do you mean.. from what you wrote i got that is the main core of the engine. do you have a picture of what exaclty I'll be getting put on my car..
by short block what do you mean.. from what you wrote i got that is the main core of the engine. do you have a picture of what exaclty I'll be getting put on my car..
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This is everything that will be pulled...
However only this will be replaced. Everything else in the above picture will be transferred to your new engine. (well, not actually. This is an RX-7 engine, but the same size, pieces, etc... as your engine, just a slightly different configuration that makes it the Renesis. I couldn't quickly find a breakout like that of the Renesis)
However only this will be replaced. Everything else in the above picture will be transferred to your new engine. (well, not actually. This is an RX-7 engine, but the same size, pieces, etc... as your engine, just a slightly different configuration that makes it the Renesis. I couldn't quickly find a breakout like that of the Renesis)
02-12-2010, 12:16 PM
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got u.. good to know. thanks .. they are replacing it monday,since im off.. I am wondering if I can call and ask if I can go witness how they replace it, just for fun. Dont know if they will allow me.
02-12-2010, 12:18 PM
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