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Old 03-17-2005, 10:22 AM
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Question Should i buy an rx8 w/ 80k miles?

I really want to get an rx-8, but ive been looking for one with 40-50k miles on it so it will be more in my price range. So far the only car ive been able to find has about 80k miles on it, and the guy said he has always run synthetic oil so he only changed the oil every 7000 miles or so. I would think you would still want to change the oil every 3000. Also he put all the miles on in about a year, he drives 325 miles a day 5 days a week. I asked him if he ran it hard or babied it, he said he didnt run it hard, since it was the only car he had and he didnt want to kill it. Kinda doesnt sound good, but he only wants 16,500 for it. Is the price too high for how he treated the car? or should i just stay away in general? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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That must be the most miles I have ever heard of.

Get the vin and PM me so I can run it.
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I really want to get an rx-8, but ive been looking for one with 40-50k miles on it so it will be more in my price range. So far the only car ive been able to find has about 80k miles on it, and the guy said he has always run synthetic oil so he only changed the oil every 7000 miles or so. I would think you would still want to change the oil every 3000. Also he put all the miles on in about a year, he drives 325 miles a day 5 days a week. I asked him if he ran it hard or babied it, he said he didnt run it hard, since it was the only car he had and he didnt want to kill it. Kinda doesnt sound good, but he only wants 16,500 for it. Is the price too high for how he treated the car? or should i just stay away in general? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
Too many miles in too little time. Eventhough the asking price may correlate with KBB & NADA, I would seriously stay away from it.
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damn--80K miles in one year--its got to be one of the highest mileage 8s ever. Well at least its ready to be turbocharged--no more warranty.
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That's absurd, it would have to be 220 miles a day in one year
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Originally Posted by Gambit
That's absurd, it would have to be 220 miles a day in one year
Yeah, totaly absurd, that was the first thing i asked the guy.. "How the heck did you manage to put 80k miles on in one year?" He works as an Outside Sales Rep, so he travels all over the state of VA every day, he said he averages about 325 miles a day durring the week.
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09/13/2003 3 FE6261195 0 ****, TEMP (fan ****)

03/16/2004 30056 Y6Y022100 1 BRACKET, INSULATOR K (recall damper)

08/30/2004 64061 N3H618881A 0 MODULE,POWERTRAIN CO (MSP04)

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This guy is a drivin' fool!!

09/03----3 miles

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As an ex car-guy with 15 yrs of experience appraising and marketing cars for a large dealer, chances of this car being in better mechanical shape than a "city driver" with 20K is pretty good. Just doing the math, you've determined that the owner put several hundred miles on the car daily...which means he had to drive it primarily on the highway. Highway driving is almost always easier on an automobile than stop-and-go city driving. Regarding changing the oil every 7K miles, this would be a problem if it was a city driver, but for only hiway driving, it shouldnt be. Let Snap-On check out the vin, then check out the owners maint records and finally have a local mechanic check it out. If the car is sound, it might be worth 12-14K. Don't let ONLY the odometer be the deciding factor as in this case it is probably the least realiable predictor.
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Originally Posted by Gambit
That's absurd, it would have to be 220 miles a day in one year
he drives 325 miles a day 5 days a week
yep. pretty much
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I hope the job was worth all those miles, then again if he is buying and selling 30000 cars every 1-2 years, he/she must do OK.
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I agree with raadracer's points, especially about how highway driving is a low-wear environment for most components of a car. A one-year-old RX-8 priced somewhere in the teens doesn't sound unreasonable to me, but a check-out by a mechanic and a careful look at the maintenance records would be necessities. Maybe sending a sample of used motor oil away for analysis would shed some light on how the engine is wearing, too.
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First, I read a post here that synthetic oil may not be the best choice for a rotary engine. Don't have the link, but you can do a search.

Second, when I was looking to buy mine (about 2 weeks ago), a 2004 with touring package was about 20,000 (maybe a little more) after all the rebates. (I ended up paying a lot more, but I got one with grand touring and navigation.) If you're financing, the difference in payments between the used one and a 2004 may not be significant. And-- you get the warranty.

You might also be able to find a 2004 base model or one with sport package for about the same price as the used one, with the rebates. I'd check that out first.
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Originally Posted by utente
You might also be able to find a 2004 base model or one with sport package for about the same price as the used one, with the rebates. I'd check that out first.
Where can i find info on what rebates might be available? i dont really see anything on mazdausa.com.

Thanks for the input guys, its really helping!
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You aren't going to get a new one with $10K $15K worth of rebates to equal sub $20K price. All the used ones I've seen have been $21K and up.
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Originally Posted by DreRX8
You aren't going to get a new one with $10K $15K worth of rebates to equal sub $20K price. All the used ones I've seen have been $21K and up.
thats pretty much what ive been seeing too... ive been looking for almost a month now, and the lowest im finding new is about 23k. I also work for a ford preferred partner, so i get about 500 below invoice.. and thats still not helping much
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Yeah and those $23K new prices I've been seeing have been on base automatics with 16" wheels.
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Right now there is $4000 off of 2004 models
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...esPopup.action
and if you get the S-Plan (employee purchase plan) you're sitting pretty. These 2 things made my purchase a dream.
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Looks like this will be another arrow in the synthetic oil user's quiver! 80k miles without any documented problems. All I can say is WOW!
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This bodes well for our reliability. Mazda should buy that one from him and tear it down.
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You could buy it and then if you need to get an engine or trans later on there is always mazmart...
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Originally Posted by Chrisbert
This bodes well for our reliability. Mazda should buy that one from him and tear it down.
Definitely- that has to one of the highest mileage production RX-8's. I would love to see the internals and specs on seal wear, plug condition, etc.

On another note, think about what that dude spent on gas in one year... it's mind boggling!
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80,000 miles, let's say 20mpg at 2.20 a gallon for premium.........$8,800......wow.....could be +/- $1200 depending on true mpg, and actual price of gas......
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If his employer reimbursed his car mileage at the current federal rate (somewhere around $.42 per mile), the car cost him absolutely nothing. In fact, he's ahead. Bought the car for $30k, sells it for $15k, spent $10k on fuel, $3k on tires, $2k on maintenance and is reimbursed $32k.

I'd buy that car before I bought a 10 year old car with 80k miles. Ten year old car has wear and tear on everything plus all the oxidation that ages the car.
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Originally Posted by NVMYGT
Right now there is $4000 off of 2004 models
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...esPopup.action
and if you get the S-Plan (employee purchase plan) you're sitting pretty. These 2 things made my purchase a dream.
Thanks for all the input guys! I decided not to buy the used one with 80k miles, but thats only because i found a new 2004 base for $20,000 after rebates and with my s-plan pricing... i have to drive from New Jersey to Michigan to pick it up.. but worth the drive for the money i just saved. Thanks for all the help, you guys rock =)
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80K miles whew. That's alot where did he drive it? around the world?


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