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thecrazy8 11-02-2010 08:54 AM

rx8 w/ 20b twin turbo
 
Im pretty new to the world of rotary engines
i wanna swap a 20b twin turbo into my 04 rx8 what do i need to accomplish this?
thanks

tubingchamp 11-02-2010 08:57 AM

To accomplish this, SEARCH.

Oh, and save up about $25,000.

fuztupnz 11-02-2010 09:00 AM

i wish this thread was this kind of Deja Vu.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TeJxggJvg7...400/dejavu.jpg




























But it's not.:(

fuztupnz 11-02-2010 09:03 AM

You'll also need one of these that auto-replenishes.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_-eLLQ3LOMj.../Fatwallet.jpg

RIWWP 11-02-2010 09:07 AM

The list of required items:

- A 20b engine
- A Turbo
- Another turbo
- A better transmission
- Lots of custom fabricated parts
- A custom oil system
- A custom cooling system
- A reinforced custom driveshaft
- Reinforced axles
- Suspension upgrades to handle the power
- Big brakes to give you a chance at living
- A shop that can do 9 months of labor doing the swap
- A shop that can do the tuning so you don't end up with a paperweight
- A rather large bank account with at least 5 zeros behind a 6 and in front of the decimal point
- A increased volume of gray matter
- A clue

tubingchamp 11-02-2010 09:08 AM

^ I like that answer :)

adamwzl 11-02-2010 09:10 AM

1 million dollars!

thecrazy8 11-02-2010 09:19 AM

so i take it i cant make this happen with only 4 grand?
found the engine on tigerjapanese.com for 2,600
will the 13b trany bolt up to the 20b?

adamwzl 11-02-2010 09:21 AM

you cant even make the stock renesis reliable with a single turbo for 4k..

Save another 5k and you can turbo the renesis without a problem. Save another 56k and you can have your 20b + twin turbo system.

alnielsen 11-02-2010 09:23 AM

Why twin turbos? There isn't any benefit over a single one.

Chad D. 11-02-2010 09:28 AM

consider the cost from tigerjapanese.com, shipping, and the cost to rebuild. You can have a 20b, but not in the car.

RIWWP 11-02-2010 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by thecrazy8 (Post 3769508)
so i take it i cant make this happen with only 4 grand?
found the engine on tigerjapanese.com for 2,600
will the 13b trany bolt up to the 20b?

A 20b swap, even NA WITHOUT turbo's is roughly $20,000 in labor.




Turbo'ing a stock Renesis is roughly $10,000, parts and labor.


For $4,000, pay off a bunch of the car, or upgrade your suspension.

angeljoelv 11-02-2010 09:32 AM

Because the twin turbo badge/sticker goives u an extra 50hp. Hee needs to make sure he gets one. :)

fuztupnz 11-02-2010 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by thecrazy8 (Post 3769508)
so i take it i cant make this happen with only 4 grand?
found the engine on tigerjapanese.com for 2,600
will the 13b trany bolt up to the 20b?

With 4 grand?
You can get a Cobb AccessPort from MM
A midpipe
A catback
BHR ignition
BHR Radiator
BHR Fuel pump upgrade
a Sohn Adapter
a Racing Beat or AEM/Mazdaspeed intake
A reinforced clutch pedal

and have a little bit of cash left over, but have a more reliable 8 (depending on its current condition) with marginally more power.

thecrazy8 11-02-2010 09:46 AM

ok thanks
if i was going to just boost the renesis what kit should i go with?

ScubaSteve8 11-02-2010 09:52 AM

There is this new kit by SEARCH thats pretty good....

200.mph 11-02-2010 09:53 AM

not again, SEARCH

fuztupnz 11-02-2010 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by fuztupnz (Post 3769480)
i wish this thread was this kind of Deja Vu.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TeJxggJvg7...400/dejavu.jpg




























But it's not.:(


i feel like i've been here before :dunno:

mscamp02 11-02-2010 10:14 AM

^they are every where

Chris 11-02-2010 10:14 AM

OMG... you should totally do this.....


I am subscribing to this thread.... :ugh2:


Cant wait to see your progress. Post lots of pics!!!!!













:fruit:

BlackRX82006 11-02-2010 10:18 AM

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RIWWP 11-02-2010 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by thecrazy8 (Post 3769551)
ok thanks
if i was going to just boost the renesis what kit should i go with?

Short answer, there isn't a kit for the RX-8. Not a single one.


Every single forced induction method for the Renesis is incomplete. The closer to completion a given "kit" is, the more it costs, but even the most complete kits cost $6,000+ and still need modifications to get it to work correctly.


You need to start with a budget of $10,000 for forced induction on an 8. Pay little for the parts, pay alot for the labor, customizing, tuning, and probably engine rebuild. Pay alot for the parts, and assuming you aren't scammed, you will pay less for customization, labor, and tuning.



Go read the build threads and see the nightmare you are getting yourself into, the problems each build has had, the resolution, etc....

Krazed_Rx8 11-02-2010 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by thecrazy8 (Post 3769508)
so i take it i cant make this happen with only 4 grand?

Lol that's priceless.

angeljoelv 11-02-2010 11:44 AM

come on guys, dont be like that. If he gets the engine for 2600 that gives him $1400 to spend on the swap. I think its possible.

adamwzl 11-02-2010 11:47 AM

^ maybe in PR but the average mechanic doing labor on the 8 charges a lot. Before I did my brakes myself, I called around asking a estimate on a brake change. Front n back with provided hardware. I got ranges from 400-700. I :lol:'d. \

Plus we dont even know where he is from to recommend a shop.

angeljoelv 11-02-2010 11:52 AM

^^^ maybe in PR?? haha. For real? 4 G's wont even get him to open the hood, here, in PR or anywhere. I was just kidding when I said it was possible. hehe.. Well, Maybe it it possible in PR .. lol, lot of crazy shit on that little island.

ShinkaEvo 11-02-2010 11:57 AM

I know, I know, get ebay kits, that should save some money, for now. :lol2:

adamwzl 11-02-2010 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by angeljoelv (Post 3769718)
^^^ maybe in PR?? haha. For real? 4 G's wont even get him to open the hood, here, in PR or anywhere. I was just kidding when I said it was possible. hehe.. Well, Maybe it it possible in PR .. lol, lot of crazy shit on that little island.


haha i thought since in PR there are a lot of drag racing rotaries and decent shops are easier to come by, hence the prices maybe cheaper.

fuztupnz 11-02-2010 03:10 PM

so...
Any progress on the build?

Chad D. 11-02-2010 03:41 PM

I'll be waiting a long time.
http://zoice.com/wp-content/uploads/...rmtrooper1.jpg

CyberPitz 11-02-2010 04:53 PM

Hey guys, come on. He can do this. He can probably custom make all of the parts himself. He'll custom make the Turbo's and the engine, so he's already saved a bunch of money! YOU CAN DO IT!

BlackRX82006 11-02-2010 04:53 PM

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Chad D. 11-02-2010 06:38 PM

this thread reminds me of this story/
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mscamp02 11-02-2010 08:03 PM

:lol: good story

tubingchamp 11-02-2010 08:22 PM

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BlackRX82006 11-02-2010 08:50 PM

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Chad D. 11-02-2010 09:22 PM

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fuztupnz 11-03-2010 12:45 PM

Any project pics yet?

Maybe I'm too anxious to see this thing.

BlackRX82006 11-03-2010 12:51 PM

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nycgps 11-03-2010 03:05 PM

Hahahahaha omg u guys cracking me up.


on the serious side op, how about get some f-king common sense before you spill more bullshit out?

do us a BIG favor please sell the 8 or just crash it if u have one. if you don't have the 8 yet please go get yourself a Civic. Cuz garbage suits you. seriously.

bhop 11-03-2010 03:06 PM

Wow, just lock this one... I think the OP needs a REALITY check! This is a joke right? In all seriousness, if you are planning on paying someone else to build this then having $20,000 to START will really help.

$4,000= Coilovers/Wheels including labor for those without the 'KNOW HOW'.

nycgps 11-03-2010 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by adamwzl (Post 3769709)
^ maybe in PR but the average mechanic doing labor on the 8 charges a lot. Before I did my brakes myself, I called around asking a estimate on a brake change. Front n back with provided hardware. I got ranges from 400-700. I :lol:'d. \

Plus we dont even know where he is from to recommend a shop.

doing the brakes for 400-700? seriously? tell me that includes parts like pads and disc and bleed all 4 corners ?

Cuz last winter it was dead cold (like 20s) and I need a brake pad change, I don't feel like freezing my ass off so I bought pads and took them to the local shop, they changed all 4 of them for me for around 80 bux. there is nothing special about Rx-8's brake system, its still just remove one bolt, slide the caliper over, take the pads out, grease the new clips, put new clips/pads in, secure bolt. bam !

rx-8's brake disc ain't that expensive. I can get all 4 disc under 250 bux. pads another 50.

thecrazy8 11-03-2010 03:50 PM

if i were to drop the renesis and put in the 20b what other parts would i need?

fuztupnz 11-03-2010 03:53 PM

This should help

http://tinyurl.com/24gtry6

BlackRX82006 11-03-2010 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by fuztupnz (Post 3771881)

HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Holy shit I just nearly crapped my pants at work

Atilla 11-03-2010 04:04 PM

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BlackRX82006 11-03-2010 04:13 PM

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fuztupnz 11-03-2010 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by BlackRX82006 (Post 3771893)
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Holy shit I just nearly crapped my pants at work

this will fix it. http://tinyurl.com/36azfq7


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