Replacement Engine Issue!
10-22-2012, 04:44 PM
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Replacement Engine Issue!
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I have a 2005 RX-8 and the engine was replaced per the recall in January 2012. The car ran perfect and gave no indication that anything was wrong. I went to leave work about a week ago and the car would not start. I first thought it just needed a "Jump" or battary? It wouldnt even Jump off. It sounded like it wanted to start but it wouldnt turn over. I had it towed in thinking it might be the starter of something minor since I hadnt seen any red flags and the oil was changed about 2 weeks prior. The Garage tols me that I had coolant in the compression chamber and that I needed a new motor. I asked how that happened since this motor was only 9 months old and no lights or warnings. The car did not run hot or anything. The dealership said If I had purchased the motor instead of doing the reman recall replacement the I would have had a 12mo/12k warranty. However the car just tripped 100k making the extended warranty null/void. Now they want to charge me $4300 for a new engine. Do I have any recourse? if I had known i would have had a warranty I might would have paid for the new engine or sold the car shortly after the replacement. Any help or guidance is appriciated. Mazda corporate has not returned my calls.
I have a 2005 RX-8 and the engine was replaced per the recall in January 2012. The car ran perfect and gave no indication that anything was wrong. I went to leave work about a week ago and the car would not start. I first thought it just needed a "Jump" or battary? It wouldnt even Jump off. It sounded like it wanted to start but it wouldnt turn over. I had it towed in thinking it might be the starter of something minor since I hadnt seen any red flags and the oil was changed about 2 weeks prior. The Garage tols me that I had coolant in the compression chamber and that I needed a new motor. I asked how that happened since this motor was only 9 months old and no lights or warnings. The car did not run hot or anything. The dealership said If I had purchased the motor instead of doing the reman recall replacement the I would have had a 12mo/12k warranty. However the car just tripped 100k making the extended warranty null/void. Now they want to charge me $4300 for a new engine. Do I have any recourse? if I had known i would have had a warranty I might would have paid for the new engine or sold the car shortly after the replacement. Any help or guidance is appriciated. Mazda corporate has not returned my calls.
10-22-2012, 05:12 PM
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Keep on pressuring Mazda north America I would say. I believe the engine itself has a year warranty? Or 10,000 mile warranty whichever comes first; even if you're 8 year/100k mile warranty is up. I would say look into that. I forgot if it's a year or not, you can find it on the forums if you search it on Google.
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10-22-2012, 05:22 PM
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1) THERE WAS NO RECALL. You are referring to the 8 yr 100,000 mile warranty. NOT a recall. A recall is a government mandated deal that forces every car to have a specific repair made.
2) Yes, Mazda remans aren't the best quality and having early failure is certainly possible.
You are probably out of luck. I ran into the same issue when I believed I had a coolant seal failure at 11,000 miles on my reman, but now over 100k. Only 1 dealer agreed to honor the 1yr 12k warranty on service and parts, 4 other dealers denied it. Talking to MNAO, they stated that it is up to the discretion of the district manager over that dealer. They have no official policy regarding it.
2) Yes, Mazda remans aren't the best quality and having early failure is certainly possible.
You are probably out of luck. I ran into the same issue when I believed I had a coolant seal failure at 11,000 miles on my reman, but now over 100k. Only 1 dealer agreed to honor the 1yr 12k warranty on service and parts, 4 other dealers denied it. Talking to MNAO, they stated that it is up to the discretion of the district manager over that dealer. They have no official policy regarding it.
10-23-2012, 09:36 AM
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Yeah there was no recall lol...
And even if they may have denied you, you should still try to fight it and get a replacement especially if you're still in the 12k mile and 1 year warranty. It might be at the dealer's discretion, but if mazda north america backed you up they can influence the dealer I'm sure. If you're in the warranty fight it, if not, then start looking into getting a rebuild or some other option.
This too.
And even if they may have denied you, you should still try to fight it and get a replacement especially if you're still in the 12k mile and 1 year warranty. It might be at the dealer's discretion, but if mazda north america backed you up they can influence the dealer I'm sure. If you're in the warranty fight it, if not, then start looking into getting a rebuild or some other option.
This too.
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Could you point out which recall you are referring to? I bolded the only 5 RX-8 recalls.
This is a direct copy and paste from Mazda's service information site, the ENTIRE recall history for Mazda, regardless of model.
And yeah, I've read the detailed information on each. None of them were an engine recall.
The only 2 involving the engine:
4206F - 2004-2006 RX-8 Reprogram PCM - Voluntary Emission Recall:
3305G - 2004-2005 RX-8 Thermal Damage Recall
RECALLS
6812G - 2001-2008 Tribute 3.0L Engine Cover Modification Voluntary Safety Recall
6712A - 2001-2002 Tribute ABS Relay Installation and Master Cylinder Reservoir Cap Replacement Voluntary Safety Recall
6511K - 2012 Mazda3 Variable Valve Timing System Voluntary Emission Recall Campaign
6611K - 2010 CX-7 and 2010 Mazda6 Readiness Code For Evaporative Monitoring System Emissions Recall
6411F - 2008-2009 MAZDA3 and MAZDASPEED3 Windshield Wiper Motor Voluntary Safety Recall
6211B - 2009-2010 Mazda6 2.5L Engine Fuel Tank Safety and Emission Recall
6110K - 2009-2010 Mazda5 Fuel Pump Connector Voluntary Safety and Emission Recall
6010H - 2007-2009 Mazda3 and Mazda5 Power Steering Voluntary Safety Recall
5810B - 2010 CX-9 Seat Warmer Voluntary Safety Recall
5709J - 1995-1997, 2001-2003 B-Series Cruise Control Deactivation Switch Recall
5509E - 2009 Mazda3 Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) Safety Recall
5409D - 2010 Mazda3 Emission Harness Voluntary Safety Recall
5309B - 2007-2009 CX-9 Power Adjustable Driver's Seat Voluntary Safety Recall
5209A - 2009 Mazda6 Outer Door Handle Voluntary Safety Recall
5109A - 2009 B-Series 4X2 Front Spindle Voluntary Safety Recall
5008H - 2007-2008 MAZDA6 (Cal. Spec. Only) - Metal Fuel Tank Coating Recall
4907H - 2007 CX-7, 2007 Mazdaspeed3, 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6, and 2006 Mazda6 OBD-II Compliance - Voluntary Emission Recall
4807H - 2007 CX-7, 2007 Mazdaspeed3, and 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6 MIL Illumination (DTC P2006) - Voluntary Emission Recall
4707H - 1998-2002 B-Series Cruise Control Deactivation Switch Recall
4607F - 2007 Mazdaspeed3 Engine Mount Bolt - Safety Recall
4507C - 2001-2004 Tribute Anti-Lock Brake System - Voluntary Safety Recall
4407B - 2007 Mazdaspeed3 Genuine Mazda Accessory All-Weather Floor Mat Recall
4306K / SSP68 - 2006 Mazda5 Sliding Door Latch - Recall
4206F - 2004-2006 RX-8 Reprogram PCM - Voluntary Emission Recall
4106E - 2006 Mazdaspeed6 Lack of Power - Voluntary Emission Recall
4006D - 2005 Tribute Headliner Compliance Recall
3906C - 2006 Miata Air Bag Recall
3705K - 2006 B-Series and 2006 Tribute Windshield Wiper Motor - Recall
3605J - 2006 Mazda5 Heat Damage Around Main Silencer Recall
3505H - 2001-2002 Miata Emission Failure Recall
3405G - 2004 RX-8 Front Lower Arm Ball Joint Recall
3305G - 2004-2005 RX-8 Thermal Damage Recall
3205G - 2004 Mazda6 3.0L Evaporative Circuit Failure Emission Recall
3105G - 2004 Mazda6 "O2" Sensor Failure No Illumination Recall
3005C - 2003 Protege Intake Manifold and Variable Tumble Control Valves Emission Recall
2804L - 2004-2005 Tribute Lift Gate Recall
2704L - 2002-2004 Tribute Accelerator Cable Recall
2604L - 2004 Mazda6 Rear Seat Belt Recall
2304J - 2004 Mazda3 Crash Zone Sensor Recall
2204H - 2002-2003 MPV PCV Hose Emission Recall
2104F - 2004 MPV FMVSS Certification Label Recall
2004F - 2000-2001 MPV Actuator Cable Recall
1904D - 2001-2003 Tribute Powertrain Control Module Re-Calibration - Recall
1704B - 2004 RX-8 Manual Transmission Dynamic Damper - Recall
1604B - 2004 MPV and 2004 RX-8 Front Passenger Side Airbag Recall
1503L - 2001 Tribute Seat Belt Cover Replacement Recall
1403L - 2003 Mazda6 Fuel Odor Recall
1303F - 2003 Mazda6 Check Engine Light Emission Recall
1203F - 2003 Mazda6 Brake Reservoir Recall
1103F - 2002-2003 MPV, 2001-2003 Miata, and 2003 Mazda6 Fog Lights Recall
1003E - 2003 Miata PCM Replacement Recall
0903C - 2002-2003 MPV Front Fog Lights Recall
0802H - 2001 MPV Passenger-Side Air Bag Module Recall
0702F - 1999 - 2000 Protege Ignition Coil - Emission Recall
0602D - 2002 MPV Certification Label - Recall
0502A - 2000-2001 MPV DX Brakeline Proportioning Valve Replacement Recall
0401H - 2001 B-Series Seatbelt Buckle Recall
0301B - 2000-2001 Protege Left Side Rear Flexible Brake Hose Recall
0100L - 1993-1995 RX-7 with Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Hood - Recall
99011 - 2001 Tribute Owner’s Manual Correction Child Restraint Anchorage System Instructions Recall
98011 - 1999 Protegé with FMS Audio Rear Speaker Recall
97010 - 2001 Tribute Fuel Leak Recall
96009 - 2001 Tribute Incorrect Rear Wheel Hub Installation Recall
95010 - 2000 B-Series Front Passenger Side Seat Belt Buckle Recall
94009 - 2001 Tribute Steering Wheel Mounting Nut Damage Recall
93008 - 2001 Tribute Cruise Control Cable Cap Damage Recall
92007 - 1998 626 2.0L Engine Timing Belt Tensioner Recall
91007 - 1995-1996 Protégé Headlight Switch Recall
90006 - 2000 MPV Tire Labels Recall
89004 - 1999-2000 626 Brake Master Cylinder Cap Recall
88004 - 1999 Miata Hard to Refuel Recall
87004 - 1994 626/MX-6 Headlight Switch - Recall
86003 - 2000 MPV Reprogramming of the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) - Recall
85001 - 1993-1994 Navajo Liftgate Bracket Reinforcement Recall
83910 - 1995 626 Emissions Recall
82907 - 2000 MPV Door Lock Recall
80906 - 1998-1999 B-Series Cruise Control Cable Recall
77810 - 1998 626 Radio Recall
75804 - 1999 Miata Fuel Injector Recall
73801 - 1998 626 PCM Recall
72803 - 1990-1994 323, 1992-2993 MX-3, 1990-1993 Protege - Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall Campaign and Door Latch Switch SSP
70709 - 1992-1995 MX-3 Front Coil Spring Recall
68702 - 1989-91 RX-7 Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall
65609 - 1993-95 RX-7 Brake Vacuum Hose Recall
64603 - 1994 BSeries and 1991-94 Navajo Brake Booster Replacement Recall
63602 - 1994 B2300 Throttle Icing at Highway Speeds Recall
61510 - 1992-93 Navajo Liftgate Bracket Reinforcement Recall
60504 - 1993-94 RX-7 Fuel Leakage Recall
59503 - 1995 Protege Engine Valve Spring Recall
58502 - 1995 626 Passenger Side Air Bag Recall
57409 - 1994 B-Series and 1993-94 Navajo Parking Brake "Skip" Thru Recall
55406 - 1991 B3000 and B4000 Front Fuel Line Assembly Recall
53404 - 1988-91 626 and 1988-89 929 Outer Door Handle Recall
49301 - 1991-92 B-Series White Steel Spoke Wheels Recall
47206 - 1990-91 626/MX-6 Turbo EGR Valve Recall
46204 - 1993 MX-6 Lower Ball Joint Retaining Bolts Recall
45206 - 1990 Miata Catalytic Converter Recall
44205 - 1990-91 MPV Rear Brake Shoe Recall
43202 - 1991 Navajo Rolling In Park Position Recall
42110 - 1989 MPV Brake Lock-Up Recall
41106 - 1991 MX-5 Miata ABS (Anti-Lock Brake System) Recall
39103 / 40103 - 1991 Navajo Fuel Tank Heat Shield and Rear Bumper Reinforcement Recall
38101 - 1989 MPV Brake Vacuum Hose Recall
34006 - 1986-87 626 Ignition Switch Recall
32903 - 1985 RX-7 Exhaust Emission Control System Recall
31805 - 1988 626 Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall
30803 - 1988 626/MX-6 Throttle Valve Frosting Recall
29802 - 1988 929 Evaporative Emission Recall
27801 and 28801 - 1988 626/MX-6 Fuel Fixing Band and Rear Drum Brakes Recall
26801 - 1986 - 87 RX-7 Front Brake Recall
25711 - 1986 RX-7 Exhaust Emission Recall
22702 - 1982 GLC Exhaust Emission Recall
21605 - 1982 RX-7 Evaporative Emission Control System - Recall
20604 - 1986 626 Evaporative Emission Control System - Recall
19604 - 1986 626 Throttle Sensor Campaign - Recall
18601 - 1982 GLC Cruise Control Recall
17510 - 1977-83 GLC, 1979-82 626 and 1979-83 RX-7 Recall
15410 - 1981-82 GLC Recall
14410 - 1981-82 626 Recall
13305 - 1978-83 GLC and 1979-82 626 Recall
11012 - 1981 RX-7 Recall
6812G - 2001-2008 Tribute 3.0L Engine Cover Modification Voluntary Safety Recall
6712A - 2001-2002 Tribute ABS Relay Installation and Master Cylinder Reservoir Cap Replacement Voluntary Safety Recall
6511K - 2012 Mazda3 Variable Valve Timing System Voluntary Emission Recall Campaign
6611K - 2010 CX-7 and 2010 Mazda6 Readiness Code For Evaporative Monitoring System Emissions Recall
6411F - 2008-2009 MAZDA3 and MAZDASPEED3 Windshield Wiper Motor Voluntary Safety Recall
6211B - 2009-2010 Mazda6 2.5L Engine Fuel Tank Safety and Emission Recall
6110K - 2009-2010 Mazda5 Fuel Pump Connector Voluntary Safety and Emission Recall
6010H - 2007-2009 Mazda3 and Mazda5 Power Steering Voluntary Safety Recall
5810B - 2010 CX-9 Seat Warmer Voluntary Safety Recall
5709J - 1995-1997, 2001-2003 B-Series Cruise Control Deactivation Switch Recall
5509E - 2009 Mazda3 Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) Safety Recall
5409D - 2010 Mazda3 Emission Harness Voluntary Safety Recall
5309B - 2007-2009 CX-9 Power Adjustable Driver's Seat Voluntary Safety Recall
5209A - 2009 Mazda6 Outer Door Handle Voluntary Safety Recall
5109A - 2009 B-Series 4X2 Front Spindle Voluntary Safety Recall
5008H - 2007-2008 MAZDA6 (Cal. Spec. Only) - Metal Fuel Tank Coating Recall
4907H - 2007 CX-7, 2007 Mazdaspeed3, 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6, and 2006 Mazda6 OBD-II Compliance - Voluntary Emission Recall
4807H - 2007 CX-7, 2007 Mazdaspeed3, and 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6 MIL Illumination (DTC P2006) - Voluntary Emission Recall
4707H - 1998-2002 B-Series Cruise Control Deactivation Switch Recall
4607F - 2007 Mazdaspeed3 Engine Mount Bolt - Safety Recall
4507C - 2001-2004 Tribute Anti-Lock Brake System - Voluntary Safety Recall
4407B - 2007 Mazdaspeed3 Genuine Mazda Accessory All-Weather Floor Mat Recall
4306K / SSP68 - 2006 Mazda5 Sliding Door Latch - Recall
4206F - 2004-2006 RX-8 Reprogram PCM - Voluntary Emission Recall
4106E - 2006 Mazdaspeed6 Lack of Power - Voluntary Emission Recall
4006D - 2005 Tribute Headliner Compliance Recall
3906C - 2006 Miata Air Bag Recall
3705K - 2006 B-Series and 2006 Tribute Windshield Wiper Motor - Recall
3605J - 2006 Mazda5 Heat Damage Around Main Silencer Recall
3505H - 2001-2002 Miata Emission Failure Recall
3405G - 2004 RX-8 Front Lower Arm Ball Joint Recall
3305G - 2004-2005 RX-8 Thermal Damage Recall
3205G - 2004 Mazda6 3.0L Evaporative Circuit Failure Emission Recall
3105G - 2004 Mazda6 "O2" Sensor Failure No Illumination Recall
3005C - 2003 Protege Intake Manifold and Variable Tumble Control Valves Emission Recall
2804L - 2004-2005 Tribute Lift Gate Recall
2704L - 2002-2004 Tribute Accelerator Cable Recall
2604L - 2004 Mazda6 Rear Seat Belt Recall
2304J - 2004 Mazda3 Crash Zone Sensor Recall
2204H - 2002-2003 MPV PCV Hose Emission Recall
2104F - 2004 MPV FMVSS Certification Label Recall
2004F - 2000-2001 MPV Actuator Cable Recall
1904D - 2001-2003 Tribute Powertrain Control Module Re-Calibration - Recall
1704B - 2004 RX-8 Manual Transmission Dynamic Damper - Recall
1604B - 2004 MPV and 2004 RX-8 Front Passenger Side Airbag Recall
1503L - 2001 Tribute Seat Belt Cover Replacement Recall
1403L - 2003 Mazda6 Fuel Odor Recall
1303F - 2003 Mazda6 Check Engine Light Emission Recall
1203F - 2003 Mazda6 Brake Reservoir Recall
1103F - 2002-2003 MPV, 2001-2003 Miata, and 2003 Mazda6 Fog Lights Recall
1003E - 2003 Miata PCM Replacement Recall
0903C - 2002-2003 MPV Front Fog Lights Recall
0802H - 2001 MPV Passenger-Side Air Bag Module Recall
0702F - 1999 - 2000 Protege Ignition Coil - Emission Recall
0602D - 2002 MPV Certification Label - Recall
0502A - 2000-2001 MPV DX Brakeline Proportioning Valve Replacement Recall
0401H - 2001 B-Series Seatbelt Buckle Recall
0301B - 2000-2001 Protege Left Side Rear Flexible Brake Hose Recall
0100L - 1993-1995 RX-7 with Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Hood - Recall
99011 - 2001 Tribute Owner’s Manual Correction Child Restraint Anchorage System Instructions Recall
98011 - 1999 Protegé with FMS Audio Rear Speaker Recall
97010 - 2001 Tribute Fuel Leak Recall
96009 - 2001 Tribute Incorrect Rear Wheel Hub Installation Recall
95010 - 2000 B-Series Front Passenger Side Seat Belt Buckle Recall
94009 - 2001 Tribute Steering Wheel Mounting Nut Damage Recall
93008 - 2001 Tribute Cruise Control Cable Cap Damage Recall
92007 - 1998 626 2.0L Engine Timing Belt Tensioner Recall
91007 - 1995-1996 Protégé Headlight Switch Recall
90006 - 2000 MPV Tire Labels Recall
89004 - 1999-2000 626 Brake Master Cylinder Cap Recall
88004 - 1999 Miata Hard to Refuel Recall
87004 - 1994 626/MX-6 Headlight Switch - Recall
86003 - 2000 MPV Reprogramming of the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) - Recall
85001 - 1993-1994 Navajo Liftgate Bracket Reinforcement Recall
83910 - 1995 626 Emissions Recall
82907 - 2000 MPV Door Lock Recall
80906 - 1998-1999 B-Series Cruise Control Cable Recall
77810 - 1998 626 Radio Recall
75804 - 1999 Miata Fuel Injector Recall
73801 - 1998 626 PCM Recall
72803 - 1990-1994 323, 1992-2993 MX-3, 1990-1993 Protege - Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall Campaign and Door Latch Switch SSP
70709 - 1992-1995 MX-3 Front Coil Spring Recall
68702 - 1989-91 RX-7 Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall
65609 - 1993-95 RX-7 Brake Vacuum Hose Recall
64603 - 1994 BSeries and 1991-94 Navajo Brake Booster Replacement Recall
63602 - 1994 B2300 Throttle Icing at Highway Speeds Recall
61510 - 1992-93 Navajo Liftgate Bracket Reinforcement Recall
60504 - 1993-94 RX-7 Fuel Leakage Recall
59503 - 1995 Protege Engine Valve Spring Recall
58502 - 1995 626 Passenger Side Air Bag Recall
57409 - 1994 B-Series and 1993-94 Navajo Parking Brake "Skip" Thru Recall
55406 - 1991 B3000 and B4000 Front Fuel Line Assembly Recall
53404 - 1988-91 626 and 1988-89 929 Outer Door Handle Recall
49301 - 1991-92 B-Series White Steel Spoke Wheels Recall
47206 - 1990-91 626/MX-6 Turbo EGR Valve Recall
46204 - 1993 MX-6 Lower Ball Joint Retaining Bolts Recall
45206 - 1990 Miata Catalytic Converter Recall
44205 - 1990-91 MPV Rear Brake Shoe Recall
43202 - 1991 Navajo Rolling In Park Position Recall
42110 - 1989 MPV Brake Lock-Up Recall
41106 - 1991 MX-5 Miata ABS (Anti-Lock Brake System) Recall
39103 / 40103 - 1991 Navajo Fuel Tank Heat Shield and Rear Bumper Reinforcement Recall
38101 - 1989 MPV Brake Vacuum Hose Recall
34006 - 1986-87 626 Ignition Switch Recall
32903 - 1985 RX-7 Exhaust Emission Control System Recall
31805 - 1988 626 Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall
30803 - 1988 626/MX-6 Throttle Valve Frosting Recall
29802 - 1988 929 Evaporative Emission Recall
27801 and 28801 - 1988 626/MX-6 Fuel Fixing Band and Rear Drum Brakes Recall
26801 - 1986 - 87 RX-7 Front Brake Recall
25711 - 1986 RX-7 Exhaust Emission Recall
22702 - 1982 GLC Exhaust Emission Recall
21605 - 1982 RX-7 Evaporative Emission Control System - Recall
20604 - 1986 626 Evaporative Emission Control System - Recall
19604 - 1986 626 Throttle Sensor Campaign - Recall
18601 - 1982 GLC Cruise Control Recall
17510 - 1977-83 GLC, 1979-82 626 and 1979-83 RX-7 Recall
15410 - 1981-82 GLC Recall
14410 - 1981-82 626 Recall
13305 - 1978-83 GLC and 1979-82 626 Recall
11012 - 1981 RX-7 Recall
This is a direct copy and paste from Mazda's service information site, the ENTIRE recall history for Mazda, regardless of model.
And yeah, I've read the detailed information on each. None of them were an engine recall.
The only 2 involving the engine:
4206F - 2004-2006 RX-8 Reprogram PCM - Voluntary Emission Recall:
Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct an Emission Recall Campaign to reprogram the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and replace the spark plugs on certain 2004-2006 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through June 1, 2006. If you are a recipient of this notice, your vehicle is included in this recall.
What is the problem?
Due to PCM software calibration issues, the following conditions may result:
i) The oil-injection metering system may be inaccurate causing poor engine sealing of the combustion chambers resulting in drivability or emissions problems.
ii) Too much fuel may be injected at the time of engine start causing carbon to be deposited on spark plugs or plugs may be flooded, causing a difficult start condition. In addition, the catalytic converter may be degraded on some vehicles.
iii) (Only 2006 RX-8 vehicles are affected.) A test value indicating engine coolant temperature may be incorrectly shown on the service tool when a diagnostic function test is performed at dealership.
What is the problem?
Due to PCM software calibration issues, the following conditions may result:
i) The oil-injection metering system may be inaccurate causing poor engine sealing of the combustion chambers resulting in drivability or emissions problems.
ii) Too much fuel may be injected at the time of engine start causing carbon to be deposited on spark plugs or plugs may be flooded, causing a difficult start condition. In addition, the catalytic converter may be degraded on some vehicles.
iii) (Only 2006 RX-8 vehicles are affected.) A test value indicating engine coolant temperature may be incorrectly shown on the service tool when a diagnostic function test is performed at dealership.
Mazda Motor Corporation has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists
in certain 2004-2005 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through July 7, 2005.
If you are a recipient of this notice, your vehicle is included in this campaign.
What is the problem?
On certain 2004-2005 RX-8 vehicles, if a RX-8 is parked and the engine is operated at high
RPMs, excessive heat build-up may affect oxygen sensors, the neutral switch and back up
lights causing MIL illumination, and exhaust emission and drivability will be adversely affected.
It may also lead to problems with the parking brake cable tube causing loss of parking brake
function, malfunctions of the gas gauge and possible damage to the fuel tank causing fuel
leaks. Fuel leakage in sufficient quantity in the presence of an ignition source could potentially
result in a vehicle fire.
in certain 2004-2005 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through July 7, 2005.
If you are a recipient of this notice, your vehicle is included in this campaign.
What is the problem?
On certain 2004-2005 RX-8 vehicles, if a RX-8 is parked and the engine is operated at high
RPMs, excessive heat build-up may affect oxygen sensors, the neutral switch and back up
lights causing MIL illumination, and exhaust emission and drivability will be adversely affected.
It may also lead to problems with the parking brake cable tube causing loss of parking brake
function, malfunctions of the gas gauge and possible damage to the fuel tank causing fuel
leaks. Fuel leakage in sufficient quantity in the presence of an ignition source could potentially
result in a vehicle fire.
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10-26-2012, 02:39 PM
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Hey guys, Sorry I am new to this Forum and was not sure where I should post it. I was advised by the Dealership it was a recall, I am not an automotive person and assumed thats what it was called? Now I understand it wasn't and it was just a warranty extension. As for the motor, I am still battling the Dealership and Mazda directly. Mazda says its up to the dealership if they will honor the 12mo/12k warranty on there work. There is no written warranty on the reman engines. The dealership says I need to get Mazda to put that in writing or to agree to cover the labor. Just a lot of back and forth. They requested I provide them with the maintenance records since I have owned the car and luckily for me I kept all but one. So i provided a copy of the Credit card transaction. Hopefully this will get resolved? Mazda corporate has been awesome to deal with but the dealership have been complete ********. If anyone has or can find additional information about this issue It would help, or any ideas or how you delt with a battling manufacture and a dealership? Thanks!
10-26-2012, 07:32 PM
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Is this news? 
And D_rock like I said even if according to MNAO it's up to dealer, I'm sure if they have pressure from MNAO to approve it they'll do it. I don't understand why it has to be in writing they know their warranties... They just want to make some money off of you. Check the receipt they gave you for the replacement engine it should have some info about the 1 year and 12k miles warranty on it if I'm not mistaken.
And D_rock like I said even if according to MNAO it's up to dealer, I'm sure if they have pressure from MNAO to approve it they'll do it. I don't understand why it has to be in writing they know their warranties... They just want to make some money off of you. Check the receipt they gave you for the replacement engine it should have some info about the 1 year and 12k miles warranty on it if I'm not mistaken.
10-26-2012, 08:04 PM
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Hey guys, Sorry I am new to this Forum and was not sure where I should post it. I was advised by the Dealership it was a recall, I am not an automotive person and assumed thats what it was called? Now I understand it wasn't and it was just a warranty extension. As for the motor, I am still battling the Dealership and Mazda directly. Mazda says its up to the dealership if they will honor the 12mo/12k warranty on there work. There is no written warranty on the reman engines. The dealership says I need to get Mazda to put that in writing or to agree to cover the labor. Just a lot of back and forth. They requested I provide them with the maintenance records since I have owned the car and luckily for me I kept all but one. So i provided a copy of the Credit card transaction. Hopefully this will get resolved? Mazda corporate has been awesome to deal with but the dealership have been complete ********. If anyone has or can find additional information about this issue It would help, or any ideas or how you delt with a battling manufacture and a dealership? Thanks!
maybe these dealershits should stop hiring people who couldn't even finish highschool ...
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