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Replacement Engine Issue!
Hey guys,
I have a 2005 RX-8 and the engine was replaced per the recall in January 2012. The car ran perfect and gave no indication that anything was wrong. I went to leave work about a week ago and the car would not start. I first thought it just needed a "Jump" or battary? It wouldnt even Jump off. It sounded like it wanted to start but it wouldnt turn over. I had it towed in thinking it might be the starter of something minor since I hadnt seen any red flags and the oil was changed about 2 weeks prior. The Garage tols me that I had coolant in the compression chamber and that I needed a new motor. I asked how that happened since this motor was only 9 months old and no lights or warnings. The car did not run hot or anything. The dealership said If I had purchased the motor instead of doing the reman recall replacement the I would have had a 12mo/12k warranty. However the car just tripped 100k making the extended warranty null/void. Now they want to charge me $4300 for a new engine. Do I have any recourse? if I had known i would have had a warranty I might would have paid for the new engine or sold the car shortly after the replacement. Any help or guidance is appriciated. Mazda corporate has not returned my calls.:wallbash: |
Keep on pressuring Mazda north America I would say. I believe the engine itself has a year warranty? Or 10,000 mile warranty whichever comes first; even if you're 8 year/100k mile warranty is up. I would say look into that. I forgot if it's a year or not, you can find it on the forums if you search it on Google.
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1) THERE WAS NO RECALL. You are referring to the 8 yr 100,000 mile warranty. NOT a recall. A recall is a government mandated deal that forces every car to have a specific repair made.
2) Yes, Mazda remans aren't the best quality and having early failure is certainly possible. You are probably out of luck. I ran into the same issue when I believed I had a coolant seal failure at 11,000 miles on my reman, but now over 100k. Only 1 dealer agreed to honor the 1yr 12k warranty on service and parts, 4 other dealers denied it. Talking to MNAO, they stated that it is up to the discretion of the district manager over that dealer. They have no official policy regarding it. |
GENERAL AUTOMOTIVE IS NOT FOR RX-8 discussions and issues!
Can we get this moved to the correct sub forum, please? Paul. |
Originally Posted by RIWWP
(Post 4371442)
1) THERE WAS NO RECALL.
You are probably out of luck. And even if they may have denied you, you should still try to fight it and get a replacement especially if you're still in the 12k mile and 1 year warranty. It might be at the dealer's discretion, but if mazda north america backed you up they can influence the dealer I'm sure. If you're in the warranty fight it, if not, then start looking into getting a rebuild or some other option.
Originally Posted by Mazmart
(Post 4371721)
GENERAL AUTOMOTIVE IS NOT FOR RX-8 discussions and issues!
Can we get this moved to the correct sub forum, please? Paul. |
Could you point out which recall you are referring to? I bolded the only 5 RX-8 recalls.
RECALLS 6812G - 2001-2008 Tribute 3.0L Engine Cover Modification Voluntary Safety Recall 6712A - 2001-2002 Tribute ABS Relay Installation and Master Cylinder Reservoir Cap Replacement Voluntary Safety Recall 6511K - 2012 Mazda3 Variable Valve Timing System Voluntary Emission Recall Campaign 6611K - 2010 CX-7 and 2010 Mazda6 Readiness Code For Evaporative Monitoring System Emissions Recall 6411F - 2008-2009 MAZDA3 and MAZDASPEED3 Windshield Wiper Motor Voluntary Safety Recall 6211B - 2009-2010 Mazda6 2.5L Engine Fuel Tank Safety and Emission Recall 6110K - 2009-2010 Mazda5 Fuel Pump Connector Voluntary Safety and Emission Recall 6010H - 2007-2009 Mazda3 and Mazda5 Power Steering Voluntary Safety Recall 5810B - 2010 CX-9 Seat Warmer Voluntary Safety Recall 5709J - 1995-1997, 2001-2003 B-Series Cruise Control Deactivation Switch Recall 5509E - 2009 Mazda3 Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) Safety Recall 5409D - 2010 Mazda3 Emission Harness Voluntary Safety Recall 5309B - 2007-2009 CX-9 Power Adjustable Driver's Seat Voluntary Safety Recall 5209A - 2009 Mazda6 Outer Door Handle Voluntary Safety Recall 5109A - 2009 B-Series 4X2 Front Spindle Voluntary Safety Recall 5008H - 2007-2008 MAZDA6 (Cal. Spec. Only) - Metal Fuel Tank Coating Recall 4907H - 2007 CX-7, 2007 Mazdaspeed3, 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6, and 2006 Mazda6 OBD-II Compliance - Voluntary Emission Recall 4807H - 2007 CX-7, 2007 Mazdaspeed3, and 2006-2007 Mazdaspeed6 MIL Illumination (DTC P2006) - Voluntary Emission Recall 4707H - 1998-2002 B-Series Cruise Control Deactivation Switch Recall 4607F - 2007 Mazdaspeed3 Engine Mount Bolt - Safety Recall 4507C - 2001-2004 Tribute Anti-Lock Brake System - Voluntary Safety Recall 4407B - 2007 Mazdaspeed3 Genuine Mazda Accessory All-Weather Floor Mat Recall 4306K / SSP68 - 2006 Mazda5 Sliding Door Latch - Recall 4206F - 2004-2006 RX-8 Reprogram PCM - Voluntary Emission Recall 4106E - 2006 Mazdaspeed6 Lack of Power - Voluntary Emission Recall 4006D - 2005 Tribute Headliner Compliance Recall 3906C - 2006 Miata Air Bag Recall 3705K - 2006 B-Series and 2006 Tribute Windshield Wiper Motor - Recall 3605J - 2006 Mazda5 Heat Damage Around Main Silencer Recall 3505H - 2001-2002 Miata Emission Failure Recall 3405G - 2004 RX-8 Front Lower Arm Ball Joint Recall 3305G - 2004-2005 RX-8 Thermal Damage Recall 3205G - 2004 Mazda6 3.0L Evaporative Circuit Failure Emission Recall 3105G - 2004 Mazda6 "O2" Sensor Failure No Illumination Recall 3005C - 2003 Protege Intake Manifold and Variable Tumble Control Valves Emission Recall 2804L - 2004-2005 Tribute Lift Gate Recall 2704L - 2002-2004 Tribute Accelerator Cable Recall 2604L - 2004 Mazda6 Rear Seat Belt Recall 2304J - 2004 Mazda3 Crash Zone Sensor Recall 2204H - 2002-2003 MPV PCV Hose Emission Recall 2104F - 2004 MPV FMVSS Certification Label Recall 2004F - 2000-2001 MPV Actuator Cable Recall 1904D - 2001-2003 Tribute Powertrain Control Module Re-Calibration - Recall 1704B - 2004 RX-8 Manual Transmission Dynamic Damper - Recall 1604B - 2004 MPV and 2004 RX-8 Front Passenger Side Airbag Recall 1503L - 2001 Tribute Seat Belt Cover Replacement Recall 1403L - 2003 Mazda6 Fuel Odor Recall 1303F - 2003 Mazda6 Check Engine Light Emission Recall 1203F - 2003 Mazda6 Brake Reservoir Recall 1103F - 2002-2003 MPV, 2001-2003 Miata, and 2003 Mazda6 Fog Lights Recall 1003E - 2003 Miata PCM Replacement Recall 0903C - 2002-2003 MPV Front Fog Lights Recall 0802H - 2001 MPV Passenger-Side Air Bag Module Recall 0702F - 1999 - 2000 Protege Ignition Coil - Emission Recall 0602D - 2002 MPV Certification Label - Recall 0502A - 2000-2001 MPV DX Brakeline Proportioning Valve Replacement Recall 0401H - 2001 B-Series Seatbelt Buckle Recall 0301B - 2000-2001 Protege Left Side Rear Flexible Brake Hose Recall 0100L - 1993-1995 RX-7 with Mazdaspeed Carbon Fiber Hood - Recall 99011 - 2001 Tribute Owner’s Manual Correction Child Restraint Anchorage System Instructions Recall 98011 - 1999 Protegé with FMS Audio Rear Speaker Recall 97010 - 2001 Tribute Fuel Leak Recall 96009 - 2001 Tribute Incorrect Rear Wheel Hub Installation Recall 95010 - 2000 B-Series Front Passenger Side Seat Belt Buckle Recall 94009 - 2001 Tribute Steering Wheel Mounting Nut Damage Recall 93008 - 2001 Tribute Cruise Control Cable Cap Damage Recall 92007 - 1998 626 2.0L Engine Timing Belt Tensioner Recall 91007 - 1995-1996 Protégé Headlight Switch Recall 90006 - 2000 MPV Tire Labels Recall 89004 - 1999-2000 626 Brake Master Cylinder Cap Recall 88004 - 1999 Miata Hard to Refuel Recall 87004 - 1994 626/MX-6 Headlight Switch - Recall 86003 - 2000 MPV Reprogramming of the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) - Recall 85001 - 1993-1994 Navajo Liftgate Bracket Reinforcement Recall 83910 - 1995 626 Emissions Recall 82907 - 2000 MPV Door Lock Recall 80906 - 1998-1999 B-Series Cruise Control Cable Recall 77810 - 1998 626 Radio Recall 75804 - 1999 Miata Fuel Injector Recall 73801 - 1998 626 PCM Recall 72803 - 1990-1994 323, 1992-2993 MX-3, 1990-1993 Protege - Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall Campaign and Door Latch Switch SSP 70709 - 1992-1995 MX-3 Front Coil Spring Recall 68702 - 1989-91 RX-7 Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall 65609 - 1993-95 RX-7 Brake Vacuum Hose Recall 64603 - 1994 BSeries and 1991-94 Navajo Brake Booster Replacement Recall 63602 - 1994 B2300 Throttle Icing at Highway Speeds Recall 61510 - 1992-93 Navajo Liftgate Bracket Reinforcement Recall 60504 - 1993-94 RX-7 Fuel Leakage Recall 59503 - 1995 Protege Engine Valve Spring Recall 58502 - 1995 626 Passenger Side Air Bag Recall 57409 - 1994 B-Series and 1993-94 Navajo Parking Brake "Skip" Thru Recall 55406 - 1991 B3000 and B4000 Front Fuel Line Assembly Recall 53404 - 1988-91 626 and 1988-89 929 Outer Door Handle Recall 49301 - 1991-92 B-Series White Steel Spoke Wheels Recall 47206 - 1990-91 626/MX-6 Turbo EGR Valve Recall 46204 - 1993 MX-6 Lower Ball Joint Retaining Bolts Recall 45206 - 1990 Miata Catalytic Converter Recall 44205 - 1990-91 MPV Rear Brake Shoe Recall 43202 - 1991 Navajo Rolling In Park Position Recall 42110 - 1989 MPV Brake Lock-Up Recall 41106 - 1991 MX-5 Miata ABS (Anti-Lock Brake System) Recall 39103 / 40103 - 1991 Navajo Fuel Tank Heat Shield and Rear Bumper Reinforcement Recall 38101 - 1989 MPV Brake Vacuum Hose Recall 34006 - 1986-87 626 Ignition Switch Recall 32903 - 1985 RX-7 Exhaust Emission Control System Recall 31805 - 1988 626 Automatic Shoulder Belt Recall 30803 - 1988 626/MX-6 Throttle Valve Frosting Recall 29802 - 1988 929 Evaporative Emission Recall 27801 and 28801 - 1988 626/MX-6 Fuel Fixing Band and Rear Drum Brakes Recall 26801 - 1986 - 87 RX-7 Front Brake Recall 25711 - 1986 RX-7 Exhaust Emission Recall 22702 - 1982 GLC Exhaust Emission Recall 21605 - 1982 RX-7 Evaporative Emission Control System - Recall 20604 - 1986 626 Evaporative Emission Control System - Recall 19604 - 1986 626 Throttle Sensor Campaign - Recall 18601 - 1982 GLC Cruise Control Recall 17510 - 1977-83 GLC, 1979-82 626 and 1979-83 RX-7 Recall 15410 - 1981-82 GLC Recall 14410 - 1981-82 626 Recall 13305 - 1978-83 GLC and 1979-82 626 Recall 11012 - 1981 RX-7 Recall This is a direct copy and paste from Mazda's service information site, the ENTIRE recall history for Mazda, regardless of model. And yeah, I've read the detailed information on each. None of them were an engine recall. The only 2 involving the engine: 4206F - 2004-2006 RX-8 Reprogram PCM - Voluntary Emission Recall: Mazda Motor Corporation has decided to conduct an Emission Recall Campaign to reprogram the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) and replace the spark plugs on certain 2004-2006 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through June 1, 2006. If you are a recipient of this notice, your vehicle is included in this recall. What is the problem? Due to PCM software calibration issues, the following conditions may result: i) The oil-injection metering system may be inaccurate causing poor engine sealing of the combustion chambers resulting in drivability or emissions problems. ii) Too much fuel may be injected at the time of engine start causing carbon to be deposited on spark plugs or plugs may be flooded, causing a difficult start condition. In addition, the catalytic converter may be degraded on some vehicles. iii) (Only 2006 RX-8 vehicles are affected.) A test value indicating engine coolant temperature may be incorrectly shown on the service tool when a diagnostic function test is performed at dealership. Mazda Motor Corporation has decided that a defect, which relates to motor vehicle safety, exists in certain 2004-2005 RX-8 vehicles produced from April 10, 2003 through July 7, 2005. If you are a recipient of this notice, your vehicle is included in this campaign. What is the problem? On certain 2004-2005 RX-8 vehicles, if a RX-8 is parked and the engine is operated at high RPMs, excessive heat build-up may affect oxygen sensors, the neutral switch and back up lights causing MIL illumination, and exhaust emission and drivability will be adversely affected. It may also lead to problems with the parking brake cable tube causing loss of parking brake function, malfunctions of the gas gauge and possible damage to the fuel tank causing fuel leaks. Fuel leakage in sufficient quantity in the presence of an ignition source could potentially result in a vehicle fire. |
He probably just meant replaced under warranty and maybe mixed it up with a recall? :dunno:
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people cant tell between extended warranty and recall ... *facepalm*
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Hey guys, Sorry I am new to this Forum and was not sure where I should post it. I was advised by the Dealership it was a recall, I am not an automotive person and assumed thats what it was called? Now I understand it wasn't and it was just a warranty extension. As for the motor, I am still battling the Dealership and Mazda directly. Mazda says its up to the dealership if they will honor the 12mo/12k warranty on there work. There is no written warranty on the reman engines. The dealership says I need to get Mazda to put that in writing or to agree to cover the labor. Just a lot of back and forth. They requested I provide them with the maintenance records since I have owned the car and luckily for me I kept all but one. So i provided a copy of the Credit card transaction. Hopefully this will get resolved? Mazda corporate has been awesome to deal with but the dealership have been complete assholes. If anyone has or can find additional information about this issue It would help, or any ideas or how you delt with a battling manufacture and a dealership? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by nycgps
(Post 4373259)
people cant tell between extended warranty and recall ... *facepalm*
And D_rock like I said even if according to MNAO it's up to dealer, I'm sure if they have pressure from MNAO to approve it they'll do it. I don't understand why it has to be in writing they know their warranties... They just want to make some money off of you. Check the receipt they gave you for the replacement engine it should have some info about the 1 year and 12k miles warranty on it if I'm not mistaken. |
Originally Posted by D_rock82
(Post 4373994)
Hey guys, Sorry I am new to this Forum and was not sure where I should post it. I was advised by the Dealership it was a recall, I am not an automotive person and assumed thats what it was called? Now I understand it wasn't and it was just a warranty extension. As for the motor, I am still battling the Dealership and Mazda directly. Mazda says its up to the dealership if they will honor the 12mo/12k warranty on there work. There is no written warranty on the reman engines. The dealership says I need to get Mazda to put that in writing or to agree to cover the labor. Just a lot of back and forth. They requested I provide them with the maintenance records since I have owned the car and luckily for me I kept all but one. So i provided a copy of the Credit card transaction. Hopefully this will get resolved? Mazda corporate has been awesome to deal with but the dealership have been complete assholes. If anyone has or can find additional information about this issue It would help, or any ideas or how you delt with a battling manufacture and a dealership? Thanks!
maybe these dealershits should stop hiring people who couldn't even finish highschool ... |
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