Replacement of coolant reservoir assembly
I am facing the problem with radiator coolant random light trigger so, I am about to order the complete reservoir assembly to replace it. I have read here that the sensor is included in the reservoir.
I'd like to ask now if it would be easy for a non-meachanic to replace this unit and if there's any special step I should be aware of, especially in regards to the water that is already in the radiator. (i.e should I empty the water first from the radiator?). In order to remove the reservoir, do I just work on the top of the vehicle or are there any hidden bolts on the bottom that need special tools? Any extra info would be helpful |
its just two nuts and two coolant hoses. So its extrmely easy to replace
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Yep...very easy, you can do it. Shouldn't take long at all or be difficult in any way at all. Go for it!
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clear enough.
thanks a lot |
the two nuts are in plain view on the top. The two coolant hoses are on the left of the reservoir. Just use pliers to loosen the clamps.
I was actually hoping you had a recommendation for a REPLACEMENT of the OEM with something aftermarket. The OEM one turns brown after a while and is unsightly. |
Well.......while it makes it really difficult to check level(flashlight required), you could paint it black like I did.
I did this when I did the wiper reservoir because I couldn't stand it. |
Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2407472)
the two nuts are in plain view on the top. The two coolant hoses are on the left of the reservoir. Just use pliers to loosen the clamps.
I was actually hoping you had a recommendation for a REPLACEMENT of the OEM with something aftermarket. The OEM one turns brown after a while and is unsightly. |
I finally did it and at the same tome I emptied the whole radiator and changed coolant (that was easy). I must say it was really hard (for me at least). First of all, in order to get out, I had to take the battery and its enclosure out. It took me a lot of time to figure out how to disassemble the enclosure and take half of it out since the base cannot be taken out. Then the hoses were so short that they also added some difficulty. Of course next time will be much easier.
Is the battery needed to be taken out in normal scenarios or is it just mine? (I replaced it with a stronger one but I don't remember the size of the original although I believe it's the same size). For the time being I am filling with coolant. |
So easy even caveman can do it.
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how much was the part? mine is doing the same thing.
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Yes, battery needs to come out.
They are $150 or so. |
Good times. Thanks MM.
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Is there an aftermarket coolant reservoir available for our car? I've been searching on here and on the intarwebz and can't find anything.
I hate the stock one. |
u can use any bottle, as long as u can retro fit it.
Just make sure u have enough coolant in it thats all. |
that would require fabrication work on my part and I'm waaay to lazy for that!
hehe. thanks though. :) |
Originally Posted by andreasy
(Post 2407414)
I am facing the problem with radiator coolant random light trigger so, I am about to order the complete reservoir auto engine assembly to replace it. I have read here that the sensor is included in the reservoir.
I'd like to ask now if it would be easy for a non-meachanic to replace this unit and if there's any special step I should be aware of, especially in regards to the water that is already in the radiator. (i.e should I empty the water first from the radiator?). In order to remove the reservoir, do I just work on the top of the vehicle or are there any hidden bolts on the bottom that need special tools? Any extra info would be helpful |
I sell mine, 140 bux shipped :)
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I have to replace mine as well, the lip is cracked.
I just called the dealership, and they're about $225... ouch I called a junk yard, and they have a '07 with one. Do you think that one will fit in a '05? |
Its all the same.
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I think I have the same issue, the Coolant low light keeps coming on in express way driving but the coolant level is fine. Mines under warranty so I'll let the dealer have the fun.
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^prob a sensor....dealer should handle it no problem
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Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2407440)
its just two nuts and two coolant hoses. So its extrmely easy to replace
UP !! I do not have 2 hose but 3 !! There is a 3rd one going strait to the radiator...is the coolant going from the reservoir to the rad or from the rad to the reservoir... :Wconfused |
Originally Posted by JMKuco
(Post 3311723)
Hi,
UP !! I do not have 2 hose but 3 !! There is a 3rd one going strait to the radiator...is the coolant going from the reservoir to the rad or from the rad to the reservoir... :Wconfused one to the left side of the bottle, Its coming from the Engine (its a bypass,whatever) and the last one? well you dont have to disconnect that(its right next to the Cap) |
yeah but there is an other hose pluged directly to the top of the radiator... and I don't know where to plug this one on my new collant tank....is this a outcoming or an incoming ?
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Removing mine too
I'm relpacing my coolant tank too. I took a look at it and it does look easy, but what about the water that is in there already? Do I just removed the tank and empity out the water? If I do, would that do anything to the radiator?:Wconfused
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Originally Posted by Smurfy
(Post 3856456)
I'm relpacing my coolant tank too. I took a look at it and it does look easy, but what about the water that is in there already? Do I just removed the tank and empity out the water? If I do, would that do anything to the radiator?:Wconfused
then just fill it up again with new coolant mix. |
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Originally Posted by Smurfy
(Post 3856456)
I'm relpacing my coolant tank too. I took a look at it and it does look easy, but what about the water that is in there already? Do I just removed the tank and empity out the water? If I do, would that do anything to the radiator?:Wconfused
Replace the radiator and then ask the Dealer about replacing the reservoir for free under extended warrantee? |
I'm in the process of replacing the overflow reservoir right now. Got the old one out which was a little tedious. Those hoses need a little persuasion to come off.
I used an oil extractor pump to get the coolant out of the bottle so I only got a very little spill when removed the reservoir. All fluid I removed was just the volume in the reservoir, didn't drain the rest. When the new bottle is installed and I'm filling up the system with coolant, do I need to be careful with air in the system? Any way to avoid that, or should I not worry because the air will escape anyway? If your OEM radiator is 5-7 years old plan on replacing the radiator!! The plastic crystalizes and you will snap off the little tit when you try to remove the reservoir. |
^...................you have enough posts to know that search is your friend! :nono:
Anyway, some people just raise the front end and have the car idling while they continue to top off until full. The other way........is................ After performing repairs or any time cooling system coolant is drained, the cooling system must be purged of air. Use the following procedure below to remove air from cooling system: 1. Safely elevate front of vehicle. Elevating the front end only, at a steep angle will allow air trapped in system to escape easily. 2. Temporarily remove a coolant hose to the throttle body. 3. Fill coolant system with proper mix ratio of coolant / water per work shop manual. 4. Start engine and carefully monitor coolant level, topping off as necessary. 5. When coolant begins to flow from throttle body hose, air is bled from system. 6. Carefully attach coolant hose back to throttle body pipe. **Caution, coolant may be extremly hot! 7. Verify proper coolant level and add as necessary. 8. Check system for leaks. Probably makes the most sense if you drained from both the radiator and engine drains, but can't hurt if you just do the 8 steps. |
Thanks.
Regarding taking "a" coolant hose off the throttle body... can I take off the top one that's easily accessible without having to remove anything? Or from the bottom (which is harder to reach without removing other things)? It was not completely clear to me when searching :p: I wonder if removing the hose is really necessary or the easiest method ("raise the front end and have the car idling while continue to top off until full") will suffice. Is this more risky than the other? |
Answering in reverse order.............but............
IMO it wouldn't really matter as to which method is better than the other. Your other questions is.................yeah, you would want to take off the higher one as what you really want is the highest point in the system. Given this statement one could assume this method might be slightly better.\ In any event, take special care if removing the hose that leads from the raditaor to the coolant bottleh as if you break the plastic piece there where that hose connects, then it will be "new" radiator time. :wallbash: |
I'm done with the replacement. Decided not to remove the coolant hose from the TB, just raised the front of the car and let it idle for about 10 minutes while monitoring the coolant level. Didn't have to top off the coolant, so looks like there wasn't any air in the system. Makes sense since just replacing and refilling the reservoir probably didn't get any air trapped in the hoses.
Drove 40 miles after that and everything seems to be normal. |
Not sure what I'm missing in trying to replace my reservoir. I removed the two nuts, removed the battery (but not the battery tray). There is just not enough float or room left to pull the resivour back to clear the front body cross member. The battery tray looks like it's held in place with one bolt in the middle and one on the drivers side rear, outside.. but that is very difficult to get to. I don't see any 'easy' way to remove the reservoir? Any tips?
I'm having the occasional coolant level light and figured I'd either try to fix the sensor or replace it. |
The battery box has to come out.
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4014933)
The battery box has to come out.
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the bottom hose is a PITA, that aside it isn't too difficult
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...cat=336&page=1 |
Originally Posted by Speedy400
(Post 4014942)
Yep, that's what I figured. Is there a trick to getting that rear battery box bolt out? I couldn't work a socket or open end wrench on it.
I have never had trouble getting the battery box bolts out. Just move the hose out of the way and use a open end or ratchet. |
Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
(Post 4016152)
I have never had trouble getting the battery box bolts out. Just move the hose out of the way and use a open end or ratchet.
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Originally Posted by Speedy400
(Post 4014905)
I'm having the occasional coolant level light and figured I'd either try to fix the sensor or replace it.
You won't be able to 'fix it' as the float itself loses the ability to - well - FLOAT! It is in a sealed side section of the bottle so you're stuffed! |
I just had dealer replaced mine a week ago. So the person told me mazda has came out with a new and improved overfill tank that should fix the problem. Hopfully thats true so my coolant light wont miss fire again.
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Originally Posted by RE5Mike
(Post 4029286)
You won't be able to 'fix it' as the float itself loses the ability to - well - FLOAT!
It is in a sealed side section of the bottle so you're stuffed! It is a magnetically operated "reed" switch. This is very similar to window/door proximity alarm switches in buildings. With a full bottle, the float is 'up' and the contacts are 'open'. When the float drops, the switch contacts should 'close'. I need to take a closer look at the switch to see if it actuates the switch in the 'full' or 'low' state and if the switch is normally open or closed. The comment that the float is losing the ability to float, just doesn't seem to work for me. I looked at mine and it seems to be floating just fine and my dash light comes on during every drive. My thought is the magnet has lost some of it's magnetism and it's not strong enough to keep the contacts apart. There is a momentary closure of the contacts that ECU detects. The ECU then turns on the dash indicator and it remains on until the speed drops (not sure why that is). |
Originally Posted by Speedy400
(Post 4037177)
I'm curious, if that is true, why the dash light goes out when the speed drops.
It is a magnetically operated "reed" switch. This is very similar to window/door proximity alarm switches in buildings. With a full bottle, the float is 'up' and the contacts are 'open'. When the float drops, the switch contacts should 'close'. I need to take a closer look at the switch to see if it actuates the switch in the 'full' or 'low' state and if the switch is normally open or closed. The comment that the float is losing the ability to float, just doesn't seem to work for me. I looked at mine and it seems to be floating just fine and my dash light comes on during every drive. My thought is the magnet has lost some of it's magnetism and it's not strong enough to keep the contacts apart. There is a momentary closure of the contacts that ECU detects. The ECU then turns on the dash indicator and it remains on until the speed drops (not sure why that is). the float absorbs too much coolant in the first place so it was never "float" as high as it supposed to be. That's why when you have that "I wanna go fast" mood, the light comes on. |
One problem may be that some people don't know not to use anything but distilled water with their coolant mix. If you use well or tap water the solids/minerals/etc will come out of solution and build up on the interior surfaces. This could impact the float level device as well.
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Originally Posted by Speedy400
(Post 4037177)
I'm curious, if that is true, why the dash light goes out when the speed drops.
It is a magnetically operated "reed" switch. This is very similar to window/door proximity alarm switches in buildings. With a full bottle, the float is 'up' and the contacts are 'open'. When the float drops, the switch contacts should 'close'. I need to take a closer look at the switch to see if it actuates the switch in the 'full' or 'low' state and if the switch is normally open or closed. The comment that the float is losing the ability to float, just doesn't seem to work for me. I looked at mine and it seems to be floating just fine and my dash light comes on during every drive. My thought is the magnet has lost some of it's magnetism and it's not strong enough to keep the contacts apart. There is a momentary closure of the contacts that ECU detects. The ECU then turns on the dash indicator and it remains on until the speed drops (not sure why that is). https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/coolant-bottle-greatest-secrets-revealed-182793/ |
Let me ask a question...on some car when you loosen the radiator drain plug and the drain starts and when you tighten the plug the drain stops. So you can drain a certain amount not a full flush. Is it the same on the rx8? i.e. Can I drain from the radiator only until the coolant are out of the reservoir and stop?
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When I changed my tank to a modified 240sx tank all I did was drain the old tank and I didnt have any problem with it leaking anywere just catch what ever is sitting on the tank and you should be fine
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Originally Posted by maxchao
(Post 4081314)
Let me ask a question...on some car when you loosen the radiator drain plug and the drain starts and when you tighten the plug the drain stops. So you can drain a certain amount not a full flush. Is it the same on the rx8? i.e. Can I drain from the radiator only until the coolant are out of the reservoir and stop?
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lol good. thanks! I was gonna use a pump to pump coolant out of the bottle, thinking the drain plug is just the same as the engine drain plug, that it's messy to control the flow. Then I found out that it's not that on most car, so I don't need to be worried.
My landlord got a dog, and I don't want to spill coolant everywhere so the dog can stay away from my car. |
I used the pump method when replacing the overflow tank, and it worked fine. Made the process very easy.
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Just did this today. Getting that bottom hose that connects to the radiator off, and then on to the replacement reservoir was a PITA.
All in all, though, simple and easy enough. No more annoying light! |
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