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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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UK OMG I need assistance from a man immediately!

Thank you for looking at my thread - I appreciate it!

I thought I had a simple misfire in that my rev's seemed delayed and my power is some what ledd then normal.

I took my baby to a local garage and they have frightened me to death telling me my rotary engine tips my have eroded and I need to visit a local Mazda dealer for a diagnostic check ASAP....only downside is they can't get me in until 12th Sept

Any idea's???? Car has done 44k miles and is very clean xxxxxxx
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Interesting that you believe gender specific help is needed.


However, it seems like you are in need of a general education on some of the basics of the rotary. Fortunately, I Have taken the time to type it all up already, here: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/new-potential-owners-start-here-202454/

The short answer is that it certainly is possible that it's your engine, but it's more likely that you are just 14,000 miles overdue for an ignition replacement (coils, plugs, and wires).

The question becomes, how much are you willing to learn how to do yourself? (it's REALLY easy). If you aren't willing, how rich are you to pay through the nose to have a dealer do it? (it's REALLY expensive if you pay them to do it)
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Smile Okay okay that was a little Damsel in distress....

Thank you so much for your Yoda like knowledge of the RX8s and yes...I am clearly a novice!

Only owned the girl for 6 months so alongside crazy working hours have only been learning as I go!

I have just had a chat with a Mazda dealer mechanic and he wold put money on the coil packs and spark plugs as you say so fingers crossed it's that.

Why in Sam Hill did the other garage start mentioning engine tips? Probably lack of knowledge similar to me.

Thanks
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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I don't see a location on where in the world/country you are located. I'd highly recommend getting some local help to show you how to replace the ignition bits. Total coils/wires/plugs will run you a bit less than $300 if you buy them yourself from a non-dealer source and do the labor yourself/with help. Having a dealer do it will probably cost you $600 to $1,100, depending on how much they screw you.


And it's REALLY REALLY easy.

And yes, most mechanics don't know anything about the engine. Or if they do, it's all bad information or rumor. Most Mazda mechanics are the same, but they have a slightly better chance at knowing what they are talking about. The one you talked to seems like he might understand it.

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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Need assistance from a "man"?
That just made women look 100 times more pathetic...

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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by lta_ds_fs7
Assistance from a man?...wow...

That just made women look 100 times more pathetic...
Yes, but every guy on this board just clicked this thread...
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:32 AM
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this thread made me
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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At least I got the advice to her that she needs before it turns into a leghumping festival.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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She is in the UK guys. Near Plymouth.

Haydonrocker, send me a PM if you would like me to move this to the European Forum where you may get more local help.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:46 AM
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Do a compression test and contact either Shifty or Arnie_O, they'll point you out to the nearest good garage
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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So there is a little pond in the way. No big deal. The accent is worth it?



Haydon, there is a UK section of the board too if you would like to ask there for local help, save you the cash.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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RIWWP would jump on this.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:54 AM
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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You could try Dragon performance there just over an hour away from Plymouth they will sort you out and will be alot cheaper then a dealer personally I wouldnt take it to an independent garage as most dont understand rotarys and there qerks.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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Click on the link in my Signature for Misfire related info, you can find out how to do it youself (DIY) there
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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Note: If you go to a shop and they refer to the apex seals of a rotary engine as "engine tips", they have no idea what they are talking about and you should turn around and walk out.

Anyway, as everyone else has said the first thing would be to do the ignition system. Next I would look into the Catalytic Converter, then a Compression Test.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kma5783
Note: If you go to a shop and they refer to the apex seals of a rotary engine as "engine tips", they have no idea what they are talking about and you should turn around and walk out.

Anyway, as everyone else has said the first thing would be to do the ignition system. Next I would look into the Catalytic Converter, then a Compression Test.
in a sense, apex seal is an "engine tip", at least the shop is honest and admit that they have no idea how to fix it.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 05:13 PM
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in a sense, apex seal is an "engine tip", at least the shop is honest and admit that they have no idea how to fix it.
I guess it's descriptive of the location, but my point is that the shop obviously doesn't have experience with rotary engines and is not the type of place I would want working on my car. Like you said though atleast they referred her to a dealer who should have someone with the knowledge to fix her problem.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 06:07 PM
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I guess it's descriptive of the location, but my point is that the shop obviously doesn't have experience with rotary engines and is not the type of place I would want working on my car. Like you said though atleast they referred her to a dealer who should have someone with the knowledge to fix her problem.
Apex seals are commonly referred as "rotor tips" and the likes in the UK.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 06:16 PM
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I use the term "tips" and "triangle things" when speaking to people who have no prior knowledge of the rotary
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RX8Soldier
I use the term "tips" and "triangle things" when speaking to people who have no prior knowledge of the rotary
This is a very good point...

But if her she is under 100k miles they should check it out and fix it for free right? (if it is a bad engine...)
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by supermario680
This is a very good point...

But if her she is under 100k miles they should check it out and fix it for free right? (if it is a bad engine...)
IF (and only if) it is actually the engine and not just the ignition (which isn't covered under the 100k engine warranty), and IF she miraculously disappeared from the UK and appeared in the US where they extended the warranty.

I don't believe they extended the warranty to non-North America countries.
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Old Aug 31, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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IF (and only if) it is actually the engine and not just the ignition (which isn't covered under the 100k engine warranty), and IF she miraculously disappeared from the UK and appeared in the US where they extended the warranty.

I don't believe they extended the warranty to non-North America countries.
haha damn that's kinda lame for other countries then... (unless they didn't send them the crap motors in the first place...lol)

and that was assuming the shop was correct in the "tips" issue...
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 03:32 AM
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Talking A huge thank you.....xxx

Re: I need a man's assistance immediately!

Thank you so much for all your replies and suggestions and I have now booked the car into a recommended garage that do understand the RX8 engines and have carried out Coil pack and plug work previously!

By the way, I live in Plymouth, Devon (UK)

....and I would like to think my accent is worth it......Ha ha

Thanks again x
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Old Sep 1, 2011 | 04:26 AM
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