sooo.... what you're SAYING is that US is cooler then Canada?
That's all I got out of that. :cool:

:lol:Yes, ........cooler that's what I meant......that's the ticket, cooler.

Because I don't know how to spell Guinea Pig!:lol:

I must of seen the damn commercial for it 60 times since Sunday, much like the freecreditreport.com commercial......its starting to get on my nerves :banghead:

Ceez76: Are you still singing that damned song to yourself?

I did wonder what they were doing with it as well. Threw it in my car the other day as I have normally put Shell in my car and my mileage seems down a little. I'm going to have to wait until the weekend to see it a little better though. Might just have to start driving that extra mile over to Sunoco for Ultra94 soon.

yup and the voices in my head :rant:
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QUOTE=DeViLbOi;2907085]Ceez76: Are you still singing that damned song to yourself?

I did wonder what they were doing with it as well. Threw it in my car the other day as I have normally put Shell in my car and my mileage seems down a little. I'm going to have to wait until the weekend to see it a little better though. Might just have to start driving that extra mile over to Sunoco for Ultra94 soon.[/QUOTE]

Before the vpower i used to use the ultra94 in all my cars but we dont have ultra94 anymore in NJ

Filled up with shell last week and check engine light stayed on till i refueled with BP

If you used the same exact octane, then it was probably nothing but your gas cap.

I've noticed this nitrogen thing too, I always fill up at my local shell so whenever it came out is how long I have been using it which is at least once so far...

yeah...it's not nitrogen gas (N2).....it's cleaning agents that have nitrogen as an element in the molecular structure of the agent.

Whether they work better I guess you have to trust shell, but I wouldn't be worried about the "paying for nothing" issue

I have used nearly nothing but V-Power and saw the ads - still using Vpower for as long as the nitrogen stuff has been out with no differences. Seems to me it can't make THAT much of a difference - the air we breathe is like 80% nitrogen so it seems the engine would be getting a healthy dose of it either way....but as elysium19 says, if it's not N2 gas, who knows what chemical it is - I'm not going to worry about it. If it breaks my engine apart, then maybe Shell will buy me a new one....(wishful thinking)

I'm certainly not hating on Shell,

but when oil companies add 'new forumulas' to their fuels, problems can result (even after their 'extensive testing').

For example (coincidentally Shell), Shell Canada put a new additive into their gas in Canada in 2001 - "This additive allegedly caused damage to the fuel supply system of many cars, most commonly of Acura, Chrysler, Dodge, Ford, General Motors, Hyundai and Volvo brands." *

"June 4, 2002 - ALBERTA, Calgary -- Shell Canada was forced to apologize to its customers after an additive in the company's gasoline was found to damage car engines. "We extend our sincere apology for any inconvenience this problem may have caused," said Terry Blaney, Shell Canada's vice president of marketing." **


So, as with anything new and unproven, I'd advocate caution....

This is a good discussion!



* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Canada_lawsuit

** http://www.allbusiness.com/retail-tr...4474843-1.html

Canada, you say? Maybe Stealth does know how to spell guinea pig after all!

Well I finally got a response from shell regarding the new fuel and here is it..........



Thank you for bringing your concerns to our attention. In reference to your inquiry, Shell Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines are suited for all gasoline-powered engines. We appreciate the opportunity to serve you in this matter and look forward to providing you with quality Shell branded products and service in the future. Sincerely,Shell Customer Care

I http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:...9vOQ/heart.gif form letters.

Yeah....exactly why im gonna save that email for a rainy day if you know what I mean. :eyetwitch

thats pretty much saying

YEAH ITS GOOD, TRUST US ! THANK YOU COME AGAIN !

hmm ...

I think this is just another marketing gimmick, pretty much like Original V-Power, then Mobil's Super+ Unleaded, Then BP came out with their Invigorate. Now Shell wants to get attention again so bam, Nitrogen Enrichd Gasoline.

It does help somewhat, at least its much better than the pathetic federal requirements(they cut that shit in 1/2 years ago to save oil companies money, assholes)

The closest Shell station around my home is like couple miles away, its on the way to Autozone, maybe next time when I go there I will stop by for some gas.

I'm gonna fill up tonight....lets see what happens.

I have gone through my first 1/4 tank of gas on 30 miles. It was normally in the 45 - 50 range. We shall know more this weekend though.

I thought nitrogen is what you put in your TIRES (I have to admit though that the insides of my tires are clean).

Nitrogen can be put in your tires as it weighs less than just normal compressed air. However, they are saying it is simply part of the chemical composition of their addative. They are marketting it in such a way, at least around here, to catch the idiots thinking it is going to be a power adder like NO2.

sucker born every minute

Don't see Mazda in the picture.....



Shell says that its Nitrogen Enriched Cleaning System contains a “carrier fluid” that acts like water, washing away both the cleaning agents and the engine gunk into the cylinder, where gunk is destroyed as part of the combustion process. In addition, The Nitrogen Enriched Cleaning System acts like a barrier to keep engines clean and protect them from performance-robbing gunk better than before.

Nitrogen is a key element of the active cleaning molecule in the new fuel, making it significantly more stable at the higher temperatures common in modern engines, such as direct fuel-injection gasoline engines. The increased stability ensures that the molecule can work under much tougher engine conditions by resisting thermal breakdown better than conventional cleaning additives.

Shell worked with automotive manufacturers to gain insight into current and future engine technologies. Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines were tested in laboratories, independent testing facilities, and on the road, accumulating more than a half-million miles in various vehicles and engines—including conventional, turbo-charged, and direct fuel-injection gasoline engines, hybrids, newer vehicles with low mileage, and older vehicles with high mileage
Shell scientists used dual fuel engines to conduct head-to-head comparisons with other lower-quality gasolines. In these tests, split engines simultaneously run on different types of gasoline in order to collect data under the exact same conditions. The results of these head-to-head comparisons showed that the Shell Nitrogen Enriched Gasolines are more effective than lower quality gasolines in protecting against the build-up of harmful engine gunk, according to Shell.

The Nitrogen Enriched formula prevents build-up of gunk more effectively than gasolines containing only the minimum amount of cleaning agents as required by the EPA. The new cleaning system is certified to meet the Top Tier Detergent Gasoline Standard—voluntary standards designated by leading automakers (Audi, BMW, GM, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen) to try to raise the bar on fuel quality beyond minimum government criteria.

Shell V-Power premium gasoline provides maximum protection with the highest concentration of the Nitrogen Enriched cleaning system and more than five times the minimum amount of cleaning agents required by federal government standards

:tool: -->wow you guys need to get with the program I thought about asking this question 2 weeks ago.

I've gone thru 1 1/2 tanks so far and it's the same as always no change all all. On a side note our Shell here is ethanol free always has been not sure if this holds any relevance or not.

^Good thing you don't live in a corn state.