New RX8 Recall ---- Fuel Tank Cap Repairs
 

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It basically saids due to heat and fuel tank cap material(read: CHEAP!) the fuel tank cap cracks(on it's own), fuel might spill everywhere (oh trust me I seen it) create a hazardous condition.

All rx8 owners will get a new updated fuel tank cap and extra insulation free of charge.

Updated : Yes, it applies to all S1 RX-8, might include S2 1 day, who knows, just like Airbag recall, yeah yeah I know s2 tank design is a diff, whatever.

Thanks for the heads up !

Is this different from this?


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...66f2336882.jpg

Different

This time they just gonna replace the tank with new, updated model, and it has extra insulation more than the ones we had earlier.

And its recalling all s1 rx8, not just the earlier ones

I have two 8's registered with Mazda. I'll keep you guys posted when I get the letter. Mazda is always good about sending me letters with recall info.

Will they take all the old bits (fuel pump, sensors etc.) and stick them on the new tank? I was going to change the pump, maybe I should wait???

I took the time to run the recall website through Google Translate.

The Japanese recall and the MNAO 0516J look the same. Nowhere in the translation does it mention a new fuel tank. It looks like they are just going to replace the pump rings and add some insulation.

You beat me to it! Just ran the same goog translate. :rolleyes: You're right. Pump rings. Maybe I should wait to change the pump. Unless they decide all those old parts are hazardous, and swap them out...

Fuel tank will NOT be replaced…
 

As mentioned above, the fuel tank will receive a thermal insulation pad, and the fuel pump ring set will be replaced. Mods, if you're out there, might be smart to change the title of this thread to better reflect the facts.

https://www.mazdausa.com/owners/recalls

"The repair will be to replace the fuel pump ring set with a new one and add a thermal insulation pad to the fuel tank. The repair will be performed free of charge to vehicle owners. Mazda will conduct the field action for this recall campaign in two phases: (1) First, Mazda will notify all vehicle owners that a recall campaign will be conducted, and (2) secondly, vehicle owners will be re-notified to have the repair performed when repair parts are available."

So replacing these items???

from USA site.

Looks like the recall will replace both pump rings, the main pump ring and the sub-pump ring in second half of the saddle tank. Adding greater insulation to the entire tank has always been needed. I am convinced this lack of sufficient insulation and subsequent heat transfer into the tank (with the hot exhaust running right between the fuel tank halves) has helped deteriorate many a fuel pump before its time.

I had a fuel pump failure in my 2008 40th Anniversary Edition's past, and back then replaced my series 1 pump with a series 2 fuel pump assembly. No further problems, but the Mazda fixes will be welcome.

Looks like this recall is not for the Series II.

Thanks for the heads up.

Just brought up my MyMazda acct and looked up open recalls... and they do have it listed, but the remedy is not yet available.

My super tech (We call him the Mazmart Stig) is discussing this recall with Mazda as he is still currently employed at a dealer as a certified Master Technician who does RX-8 work every week and often every day. We have identified other common fuel leak issues and not seen O ring failure. Mazda is communicating on the topic and thankful for the input.

Paul.

I have seen couple Rx-8 with the exact failure (cap cracked on it's own) and fuel spilled everywhere in Hong Kong.

so I guess this is a fairly common issue.

Well, At least you guys in the states got Mazda covered, in Hong Kong ... they don't give a shit, so far they only admit the airbag recall cuz it's so damn widespread ... and nothing else.

they don't even honor the lower A arm recall here , sucks.

I updated the title myself (lazy mods LOL) , I dunno why I left the cap part out ... whatever, it's updated. :)

I had this done over two years ago on my 04 at my own expense when I noticed gas odor upon every fill up only. I'll show them my receipt and see if I can get reimbursed for the fix when I get the recall notice. The insulation might be a good idea? I replaced my fuel pump at 10 years old so they must be pretty good. The new full pump assy I got from Mazdaspeed was really impressive drop in unit at a great price.

Update 10/10/17
***So I had my 3 year old fuel pump replaced for free under the 2nd recall. I submitted my receipts for the cost of the previous fuel pump and the $100 a private garage to install. It came to $471.70 and I just got a check from Mazda to cover my costs for that. So I am totally impressed with Mazda for reimbursing me a total of nearly $900 for the two fuel system repairs I had to pay for out of pocket. No one honors repairs on a car that's 14 years old!!

We have seen breakage at the outlet fitting.

Paul.

Dang. I Bought my RX8 at the end of Oct. Replaced the fuel pump two days later due to a crack in the housing.

Just got my recall notice yesterday (Jan 09 2017) in the mail from Mazda. It says to come in as soon as possible to have it checked for cracks, but they won't have actual parts until later, so wait for a second letter to notify me when they get 'em. Mine is 2006 base model manual. 96,000 miles and no issues with the fuel ring so far.

These rings must be accessible from under the rear seats, right? The letter said 30 mins for the replacement of parts...no way are they dropping the exhaust, drive shaft, tank in that time!

Correct, left rear cushion pops out, 3 screws hold a cover.
Be sure you don't have a full tank when you drop it off, quite a bit will spill out.

Got my letter from Mazda today for my 2008 40th Anniversary edition RX8. Yes they access the fuel pump rings from under the rear seat covers. The fuel tank insulation will be replaced from underneath the car.

Worth a shot, I'd recommend it.:)

Could this possibly cause a p0456 and p0441 code? Would you smell gas in the interior cabin if you had a leak?

FS

My wife noticed the fuel odor ONLY when I would fill up the 2004 car. I pulled the rear cushion up and there was wet gas which technically could drip and cause a fire. Temp solution is do not fill to top and simply keep 1/2 a tank. If codes are thrown due to pressure loss on system could be?

I took a shot since parts aren't available yet and mine was repaired years ago sending them my form and copy of Dealer repair bill for $500 (no pump either just testing and seals) in the hopes they will just reimburse me. The only thing they didn't do was the insulation thingie. Worth a shot anyhow. If you don't smell gas or see it when full doubt you have an issue yet.

Good luck.

At least they're not issuing a caulking gun, one tube of silicone sealant, and two cans of GreatStuff for insulation to every owner.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx8...24b8ebfd04.jpg

Took my RX-8 in today for the initial inspection, and no issues. 205K miles.

205K? Nice!

I got my letter last week, and it says a half hour to do the inspection of the fuel pump rings but two hours or more to do the repair. When I called to make an appointment for the inspection, they said I had to leave the car overnight, no exception. They always provide a loaner, so no biggie.

I called back to say, why come in for the inspection if you don't have the parts, doesn't it make more sense to wait until you get the parts so that if the inspection shows I need the repair you can do it all in one trip instead of me doing two trips. She said yes, but "there is no ETA on when the parts will come in."

I have a 2006 Sport, 120,000 miles (second engine), and I'm thinking if anyone's got deteriorated insulation, it's those of us with high mileage. ?? So I'm not waiting for the parts; I'm going in on the 23rd for the inspection, and if there's something to be concerned about, I won't be driving my 8 until the parts are in, as in not only in the dealership but in my car! I'm not interested in being barbecued a few months before my daughter's wedding. :-D (Before you all jump on me for being dramatic, I KNOW! It's exaggeration for effect! haha)

From what I gathered from the letter, they want to inspect your ring for damage.
If it's cracked, they may have parts in stock to take care of it.
I think they have available parts for those needing immediate repair.
I believe they don't want to use up their limited supply on unnecessary replacements.

I got my notice yesterday so I called about it. He ordered the parts and is going to call when they get in so I can get an appt and have it all replaced. He estimated in about a week. So Im assuming they are intending on replacing?? Im going to fuss about it if not, lol.

Talked with my dealer's service manager and they suggest waiting till they get the parts in and then they will have me come in. I have no gas smell or leaks, so I can wait for the parts. This is an overdue recall, but at least they are doing it before we catch fire.

R u serious? U know the shit u said does not go well with gasoline?

Yep they replace the Fuel Pump RINGS and Seals, Mazda has a Kit..

F1Y1-42-A1X NUT, RETAINER & GASKET KIT, Quantity 1

Components:
Fuel pump rings (2)
Retainers (2),
Gaskets (2)
Heat insulation pads (2)

https://www.parkmazdaoemparts.com/pa...&siteid=215334

And it is only for Series 1 RX-8's.
From April 10, 2003 through February 18, 2008 (Series 1 production).

USA Vins..

JM1 FE**** 40 100053 – 140891
JM1 FE**** 50 140892 – 161178
JM1 FE**** 60 200013 – 207471
JM1 FE**** 70 207473 – 214011
JM1 FE**** 80 214012 – 216619

This is a new SST , Maz0516j

Maybe i should get 1. It looks like it works better than the old sst

Yeah man its a new one , not genuine, but local, all genuine (Japan) are 49 part numbers.

I cant even find a price, not that I have tried that hard.

got my letter couple weeks ago. called dealer the rear seats all have to come out thats what makes it a 3-4 hour job, i told my dealer ill have all the seats removed once the secondary notice comes in that the part is available, that way ill just be there about an hour or 2 max, gota make it easy for them, ive met the head rotary tech at my dealer he knows that my car, and that i know my rotarys, so i have no issues with him,

FYI the seats pop right out. That is not another hour of work to remove the seats.

got mine done Friday.
New Pump.

Paid for pump though, right??? Non-warranty/recall issue.

Even $400,000 to $4 million dollar cars can have dangerous gas leaks that could lead to fire.

Lamborghini Recalls Aventadors, Rare Venenos Due to Fire Risk | Fortune.com

ROFL

3-4 hours for this ?

I did it myself under an hour. BOTH SIDES :rollingla

Did they cover the pump?

Yes!

They want me to buy the new Vision.

Ooops! Cat out of the bag.

You really lucked out with this recall. My tank fittings went out two years before my fuel pump started acting up so can only send in one $500 bill for the recall fittings. Awaiting reimbursement but not holding my breathe on that either.

I wonder if they would comp the labor to replace the pump while doing the recall? I've got 155K on original pump. 40k miles or so on my reman. The pump assemblies are reasonable from Mazdaspeed. I need to get this done along with the airbag fix.

Hold off on the fuel pump recall...
 

Soooo... I took my RX-8 to the dealership to get the two air bag recalls done and I knew about the fuel pump recall, but I also knew it wasn't quite ready so I didn't ask for that to be done. With the great customer service at my local dealer, they decided to tack that recall onto my visit as well because why not, right? Well turns out my fuel pump didn't pass their inspection, however, what they found wasn't completely covered by the recall but they're going to cover the whole process anyways (which is awesome). What's not so awesome is that they have to replace the entire fuel pump which just so happens to be on national backorder. Oh and they also can't give me my baby back because it's dangerous and they would be liable. It's been almost a week and two different loaner cars... (One of which was an awesome CX-5 and the most recent being a sub-par base model Mazda3, yuck. If this goes on much longer they better have an MX-5 ready for me.) I don't recommend bringing in your 8's yet, fellas.

They did the same for me - 2 weeks+ to replace a failed airbag seat sensor on my S2 - $4500 worth of work. Once had to be assembled and shipped and they wouldn't let me take me car home - Jeep Wrangler as rental (not too shabby).

I wish I got a Wrangler, I'm stuck with this 150hp Mazda3. They have my sports car, the least they could do is give me something equal... :wallbash: