:rolleyes: Did I forget to mention I am extremely lazy to reach for that button :p

unfortunately my yelling at them from this side of the pond only makes me feel a little better- it doesnt actually help the situation :(

The DIY consists in just plugging the OEM cruise control controls to the PCM. I bought my controls from Japan. Others from US. Anze, a German owner, actually created a "kit" consisting of the controls, 2 bits of wires and fitting instructions.

Mazda Motor Europe is in Leverkussen, Germany. Toyota Motor Europe is in Belgium.

Cruise Control is legal in every single European country.

The use of "I think" or "maybe" in some of your statement might have been a good idea...;)

Fabrice (from Belgium)

:) ^^

Thanks Zoom!... I guess you're talking about me there?... funny it's all the same names on all these forums... Won't be getting any more flashes it seems... sigh.

Sorry Rasputin I was only repeating what HE ^ told me :mad:

Sorry, Rasputin.... I might be guilty here, I am sure somone told me that it was illegal in Belgeum... is there no unusual restriction?... if not I understand their position even less, what is going on?...

you bet James. just glad to be of help no matter how small it may be. yeah no flashes for you. since it will be in all future flashes as well-unless for some reason they change their minds . which seems unlikely. although why they would bother to do this in the first place to just screw with -what?- a dozen people? its just odd-i mean why bother? seems like spite to me.
of course there may be some better flashes coming from "other sources" once a few more folks like racing beat crack the pcm.

and yes- its helpful that folks in general use the same names on the various forums. its easier to remember everyone;)

-charlie

If anyone wants to see how simple it is, the howto I wrote for RHD cars in the UK is here:-

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forum...threadid=13845

It's slightly different to the cars in the rest of europe, becuase the connection point is inside the car.

i want to be clear that when i said earlier that i had spent alot of time on this i wasnt taking credit for anything. i spent about a weeks time over a month taking to trussville and other dealers as well as some other contacts and looking at service manual stuff then sending that info to blueadept. but mostly i ran into dead ends. no one i talked to would sell the buttons as they said MNAO wouldnt let them(or something like that)blueadept and the guys in france etc are the ones who did the real work of figuring everything out and getting it to work. bravo to them :D

Well, Anze in germany was there first really, and selling the kit... I had the buttons before, but I thought it was just a case of plugging them in... Still, many thanks for the time you spent...

Well your birdie hasn't looked too deep. Have him take a look at L and T timing as well aS LONG AND SHORT Fuel trims. Before and afters show some difference. Not huge but definately different.

Is it possible the LFT/SFT are still adjusting for your car?

A reflash will clear all KAM.

My fantasy is making the car run leaner in closed-loop mode so I can get better gas mileage than a Hummer...

...so wouldn't it be nice if the 'P' or subsequent flashes disabled the 'run pig rich' function?

Speak for yourself... It gets really hot down here... :mad: When I am whirling around at 7,000 rpm I like to feel cool... :D

Re the P flash: Don't forget that the A.C. compressor cycles whether or not the A.C. system is turned on.

CRH

Could you buy one of those electric fans you can attach to your windshield with suction cups?

:D

You don't want to change closed loop....it is lean enough already. It is the open loop areas that need leaning out............I'm afraid that even if they are leaned out...you spend 80% of your driving in closed loop anyway....therefore mileage won't change much from leaning out open loop areas...it drinks gas when your foot is in it anyway. Thermal Efficiency is our problem...just part of the design :(

Yes, it is less than elegant that the 8's engine uses gasoline to heat up the exhaust manifold instead of converting the fuel to motive force.

However, the flip side to almost every problem is opportunity. All that thermal energy could, with the right working fluid & design, be used to do useful work, like, spin a turbine to force more air into the engine. Also, after passing thru the turbine, the fluid could be used to supercool the air going into the engine A LOT more than a conventional intercooler, with less lead loss to boot.

Just to make sure I have the right impressions on the N/P flash- What are the differences between the M and N/P flashes? If I know for sure that may help with some minor issues I am still having. Thx.

CRH

so okay i read the thread over and over again and nobody really still says what the P flash does?

So there are changes to the fuel trims with the P flash as opposed to the N flash? Any changes to acceleration/power. Has anyone had the P flash done yet?

There has been alot of talk about this new "P" flash, and if you look through the threads...you'll see whats been mentioned, but the infomation seems to be very convuluted, and at time unclear.

From what I have read, it seems like one of the major changes in for the A/C clutch shutdown, which is changed from 5500rpm to 7000rpm? Sounds like that would maintain the parasitic drag on the engine through the rev range, but doe this change the WOT shutoff? It has also been mentioned that the P contains some additional changes to the AFR's, or timing. Can't confirm any of this. Just what I have read.

I may find out what is in the new flash, as my car is scheduled for alot of work on Monday, which may include this PCM reflash, I will add any update to the new thread I started "Another Dealer Visit".

If anyone has confirmed an info about the P flash, can you spell it out for us in one post?

Many thanks!!!

the only confirmed pflash change is the ac cutoff moved to 7k rpm.