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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 06:53 AM
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Mazda INFORMATION

I was at Mazda today again and I talked to my buddy there. I always ask to see if anything as in the way of problems with the RX8 are popping up or anything like that.

Well anyway this is JAPAN information, but maybe related to the US spec version in the future, but once again its only information.

SEVERAL COMPLAINS:
The center console is too hot--Not yet fixed still being researched (possibly transmission heat shield change)

MAZDA IS CHANGING A PART Before offical recall can happen:
Oil pan, oil pan gasket, and dipstick all will be changed (He said he wasnt sure of the reason or maybe he couldnt say)

Anyway once again its just information.....
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 06:55 AM
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Thanks Jason for the heads up....
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 07:00 AM
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No problem (my10ae)

OH I was also going to add, MAZDA says they have no plans in the future to turbo the RX8.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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the center consoles, are awfully hot


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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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So from what I've read on the forum, the original dipstick may be reading too high? And this is part of the problem with oil warning and perhaps other engine problems? Until this gets sorted, sounds like it should be kept very near the "full" mark, or, dare I say, perhaps slightly above? 1/2 quart? Opinions?

"Overfilling" would probably be a warranty issue.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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thanks jt
good info
keep us posted if possiable
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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i noticed that my center console got kinda high too. hehe warm drinks at least (if its coffee)
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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No problem, I will post as I get it.

Im going to another car show in 2 weeks, RX7 and RX8s so I hope to get some good info (inside) then.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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So would it be safe tosay that when I'm ready to buy in May of 2004 most, if not all, the current issues will be taken care of?

I was really hyped to buy but with problems like seals blowing and such I am getting a bit gun shy now.

To tell you the truth, my Integra with an ITR engine seems to have more torque than the RX8 I test drove.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by Gee3
I was really hyped to buy but with problems like seals blowing and such I am getting a bit gun shy now.
Are there documented problems with seals blowing? First I've heard that...
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 01:53 PM
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I did a search ealier on this board and found that. A few guys found coolant on their garage floors. They brought the car to the dealer and Mazda had to replace the engine due to bad seals.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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I haven't been able to ready EVERY post but I've yet to hear of someone having coolant under their cars. Compare my posts/ how long I've been here.
No, it wouldn't be a great idea to keep your oil over the F mark. It's not a bad idea to keep it well above "L" though. (1.8 qt diff H-L, remember).
My center console never gets even warm, that I know of, but I tend to keep my hands on the steering wheel and my legs under it while driving so I couldn't be sure. I do know my 81 7s used to get quite warm in that area so the 8 is nothing like it could be. (my 8 of course).
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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The information is in general though you know, I mean it doesnt mean every car will have the came problem.

It is good though if you experience anything you dont like or unordinary to take it to the dealer and let them know, that way they can relay the info back and it will help work out the bugs if there is any to work out.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Not everyone will have these problems but it is good to know about the, And you're right, I will bring these up to the dealer.

Here is the post with the engine seal/coolant problem: Scroll down to WayneOsworld's post: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...light=problems
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Nubo
So from what I've read on the forum, the original dipstick may be reading too high? And this is part of the problem with oil warning and perhaps other engine problems? Until this gets sorted, sounds like it should be kept very near the "full" mark, or, dare I say, perhaps slightly above? 1/2 quart? Opinions?

"Overfilling" would probably be a warranty issue.
uh mine was over the full line when i took delivery so i guess i had a warranty issue right from the start.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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uh mine was over the full line when i took delivery so i guess i had a warranty issue right from the start.
Yeah, I just wanted to put a disclaimer in. On the one hand we have some information that the dispstick may be off, causing not enough oil to be kept. On the other hand if you tell Mazda you've been deliberately overfilling the system that's bad too. Probably best course is to keep it right at "full" for the time being.
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Owners manual says to add when the level reaches bottom line but I'd rather not wait that long.

I've been filling mid-way...takes about a half to 3/4 of a qt. to top it off. At about 1600 miles, she's already used a quart. Is this excessive?

- Eric H.

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1976 Alfa Romeo Spider (and therefore used to checking oil -- funny how the Spider holds twice as much as the RX8 and burns half as much)
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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nope, that's about right. 1 qt / 5000 +/-. generally higher use w/ higher RPM habits.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:29 AM
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thered1996---actually it depends the most on what oil your using. A rotary does naturally burn oil, but I have a Ported FD with about 450hp and it burns about 1/2 quart a month, but I also change it every month, so I dont mess with it much.

REDLINE--Will definatly burn off quicker then most the oils I have ever used.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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REDLINE--Will definatly burn off quicker then most the oils I have ever used
My RX-8 will use more oil at sustained higher RPM's, such as a long highway trip running 70-80 mph.

Typical driving I will add oil ~ 2,500 miles. Long highway trip, you better check every 1,000 miles.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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It would be a nice improvement if the replacement dipsick was accompanied by a 3" longer tube so that you don't have to squeeze your hand through the hoses to check the oil.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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So all this oil burning is normal for a rotary? As you can tell, I've never owned a rotary.

My enthusiasm for this car is getting low with all that I am reading. I am used to Honda reliability. My Integra barely ever ate any oil, even at high rpm's on a road course. <Sigh!>

Well, I have until May to make my decision on buying the car.

what other cars did you consider in this range other than a Z or G35?
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Yes burning oil is normal for a rotary. A small amount of Oil is actually injected into the combustion chamber in a rotary, on a piston the oil never sees the combustion chamber(well it shouldnt hehe) at least.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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jt-imports? jason do you import jdm cars into the 'states? are you "j's garage"?
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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I know J`s Garage.

Importing cars, thats a side thing we do, but it doesnt have anything to do with JT-Imports, its my personal thing to help
some people out.

But no J`s is no way affiliated with JT-Imports
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