K&N Is Finished & Reports...
08-14-2003, 04:21 PM
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K&n Is Finished & Reports...
AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, K&N ENGINEERING HAS HAD MY 8 SINCE MONDAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE DYNO REPORTS YET, BUT THEY CLAIM THAT WITH THE AUTO THEY WERE ABLE TO GAIN A MEER 5HP(PRELIMANARY) AND WITH THE 6SPD THEY GAINED 16HP. THE DIFERENCE OF COURSE IS DUE TO THE FACTORY INTAKE PORTS(4 VS 6).
THEY'RE KIT TOTALLY CHANGED THE SOUND OF THE RENESIS. ON THE 6SPD ESPECIALLY BEING DESCRIBED AS EAR PIERCING, MUCH LOUDER. NOT SO MUCH WITH THE AUTO THOUGH.
K&N STATES THAT THEY'RE KIT WILL BE UNDERGOING PRODUCTION WITHIN THE NEXT 4-5 MONTHS.
MORE TO COME AS IT COMES.
THEY'RE KIT TOTALLY CHANGED THE SOUND OF THE RENESIS. ON THE 6SPD ESPECIALLY BEING DESCRIBED AS EAR PIERCING, MUCH LOUDER. NOT SO MUCH WITH THE AUTO THOUGH.
K&N STATES THAT THEY'RE KIT WILL BE UNDERGOING PRODUCTION WITHIN THE NEXT 4-5 MONTHS.
MORE TO COME AS IT COMES.
Woo! Woo!
08-14-2003, 09:34 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmmm interesting
thats some great news, also it shows that once again, its not the engine, but the stuff around it thats in question
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thats some great news, also it shows that once again, its not the engine, but the stuff around it thats in question
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08-14-2003, 10:31 PM
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What about the other K & N products (non-kit) like the air filters that fit into the regular filter housing. BTW, I am not a power monkey but last night for the first time I hit the BEEPER at 8500. It made me realize though that there is so much more beyond 6000 rpm (my previous break-in limit) I hope someone dynos the car with this air filter "kit" and displays the data to quench the fury. It is been bothering me - not to say that I am not interested but rather that I bought something that is performance oriented and don't want to feel that it is flawed or something. I know that other owners feel the same way. We all like the car - I think of it as an affordable exotic per se but I also want it to be all that it is meant to be, to me and for potential owners or admirers.
08-17-2003, 08:49 PM
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16 hp is a lot
Call me a pessimist but 16hp sounds like a big gain for just an intake. The factory air box has a HUGE filter and doesn't seem that restrictive. I expected that aftermarket intakes would generate 5hp at most. I will have to see a before and after dyno before I buy this one. For 16hp I'll be the first one on the list to buy one. I hope those are good numbers!
08-18-2003, 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by compaddict
16HP...
Is that what Mazda says?
[Insert sarcastic icon]
Vince
16HP...
Is that what Mazda says?
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Vince
08-18-2003, 05:40 PM
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REALLY?! 16HP?! IS THAT AT THE WHEEL?! IMAGINE ALL THAT POWER FROM JUST AN AIR FILTER? WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS KIT? HOW MUCH? IS EVERYONE ELSE AS EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS ME? :D
08-18-2003, 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Quick_lude
REALLY?! 16HP?! IS THAT AT THE WHEEL?! IMAGINE ALL THAT POWER FROM JUST AN AIR FILTER? WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS KIT? HOW MUCH? IS EVERYONE ELSE AS EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS ME? :D
REALLY?! 16HP?! IS THAT AT THE WHEEL?! IMAGINE ALL THAT POWER FROM JUST AN AIR FILTER? WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS KIT? HOW MUCH? IS EVERYONE ELSE AS EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AS ME? :D
08-18-2003, 06:05 PM
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Is this title ok?
Does anyone have a pear or shade and ear muffs that I can borrow? It's hard to see and hear the yelling from RX-EVolved :p
I also want to know what the kit included and which parts of the intake was modified/replaced (such as ports/valves opening before the intake track, etc). I thought that, with the big filter the stock had, little or none horses can be gained by just replacing the filter.
I also want to know what the kit included and which parts of the intake was modified/replaced (such as ports/valves opening before the intake track, etc). I thought that, with the big filter the stock had, little or none horses can be gained by just replacing the filter.
08-18-2003, 08:55 PM
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Here are some pics of K&N fitted RX8. K&N was kind enough to let me borrow the prototype intake for me to test and give them feedback on performance and gas mileage gains, if any.
As expected, the K&N intake makes a noticeable difference in noise level but not quite "ear piercing" as described above. I can only describe it as somewhat "throaty" and the noise overshadows the sweet rotary sound at higher rpm (maybe good or bad).
Performance wise, I didn't feel any improvement in throttle response as the stock intake was already very responsive in my opinion. Only 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears were tested. Based on the dyno charts that I was shown and for what I can recall, most of the HP is gained at higher rpm (6500+) at an additional 10HP on average (peaked at an additional 16HP around 7500 to 8000 rpm). Lower rpm exhibited 2-9HP gain. I tried to convince K&N to give me a copy of the dyno charts but they wouldn't--damn I wish I had a photographic memory!!!
I would also comment on the gas mileage but I don't have a baseline of the stock intake. My last full tank, however, got me 18 miles to a gallon with the fitted K&N. I will have the intake for another week before I return it to K&N. Does anyone know where I can get it dyno'ed so I can post it on this forum? btw I live in Corona, CA and work in Irvine, CA.
As expected, the K&N intake makes a noticeable difference in noise level but not quite "ear piercing" as described above. I can only describe it as somewhat "throaty" and the noise overshadows the sweet rotary sound at higher rpm (maybe good or bad).
Performance wise, I didn't feel any improvement in throttle response as the stock intake was already very responsive in my opinion. Only 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears were tested. Based on the dyno charts that I was shown and for what I can recall, most of the HP is gained at higher rpm (6500+) at an additional 10HP on average (peaked at an additional 16HP around 7500 to 8000 rpm). Lower rpm exhibited 2-9HP gain. I tried to convince K&N to give me a copy of the dyno charts but they wouldn't--damn I wish I had a photographic memory!!!
I would also comment on the gas mileage but I don't have a baseline of the stock intake. My last full tank, however, got me 18 miles to a gallon with the fitted K&N. I will have the intake for another week before I return it to K&N. Does anyone know where I can get it dyno'ed so I can post it on this forum? btw I live in Corona, CA and work in Irvine, CA.
08-18-2003, 09:02 PM
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16HP..
When monkeys fly out of my ***!
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This is exactly why I hate posting at forums. Smart *** replies like this one gets me irritated.
16HP..
When monkeys fly out of my ***!
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This is exactly why I hate posting at forums. Smart *** replies like this one gets me irritated.
08-18-2003, 09:55 PM
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Is this title ok?
I see, they removed the stock box and get rid of the last intake track & port. Which explains the little gain from low RMP?
What I really like to see is if they produce the replacement filter piece and ultilize the stock box as well, which should keep the noise down for sure; then again, that might not prove to be useful.
What I really like to see is if they produce the replacement filter piece and ultilize the stock box as well, which should keep the noise down for sure; then again, that might not prove to be useful.
