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V1.0 07-06-2008 01:39 PM

http://smrmicro.com/rx8servicemanual/

Found this on this thread : https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ht=shop+manual

go to #3 engine specs and do a search for compression and it gives a chart and specs.

Rotary Rasp 07-06-2008 03:55 PM

Nice find, thank you.

V1.0 07-06-2008 06:34 PM

No problem, one good deed deserves another...besides those foot well LEDs I got from you rock!

Jedi54 07-07-2008 12:40 PM

any updates?

Rotary Rasp 07-07-2008 02:12 PM

I'm going after work to get the compression tester.

Rotary Rasp 07-07-2008 02:43 PM

Normal Compression is 120psi @ 250rpm
Minimum Compression is 98.6psi @ 250rpm

Rotary Rasp 07-07-2008 04:35 PM

Well, I just went to lunch and had some problems with my car. The CEL came on as soon as I pulled out of the parking lot. After the car warmed up it would stall as soon as I came to a stop. Now it won't idle.

Jedi54 07-07-2008 04:42 PM

can you pull the code?
get that badboy towed to Mazda; new engine here you come! :)

Rotary Rasp 07-07-2008 04:52 PM

I don't have a code scanner.

Charles R. Hill 07-07-2008 04:52 PM

Reset the ESS profile with the 20 brake pedal stomp thing.

Rotary Rasp 07-07-2008 05:33 PM

I just got back from the mini mart. It idled fine and the code cleared itself when I got back to the parking lot.

Jedi54 07-07-2008 05:34 PM

your car is posessed

dozer 07-07-2008 05:38 PM

^lol

V1.0 07-07-2008 09:09 PM

Good luck with the compression test.

Maybe your car is telling you to leave it alone...hmmm..you haven't named her Christine, have you?

Rotary Rasp 07-07-2008 09:33 PM

I don't know how i'm suppose to do the test.

Can someone make sense of the videos and tell me if i'm doing it wrong?

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...h_DSCF0356.jpg


http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...h_DSCF0357.jpg


http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...h_DSCF0358.jpg

V1.0 07-07-2008 09:43 PM

Quote : CHR - Remove the valve core from the tester so the needle bounces as the compression strokes pass by. Note where the needle stops each time and determine the numerical value later. Make sure to disconnect the e-shaft sensor, first, and remember using an analogue gauge is only a general idea of the compression values. Don't forget to crank the engine at WOT.


If you are doing this and everything is right, and I'm no expert in any way, but I would say that yours is low. That first one seems to meet min standards but the other two vids, seem to fall short of mins. But I would wait for a better, more experienced answer from CHR or someone like that.

tajabaho1 07-08-2008 08:22 AM

oh god, Rodger, I think my car might follow yours pretty soon >.<

Rotary Rasp 07-08-2008 11:35 AM

Can anyone tell me if I did the compression test correctly?

Astral 07-08-2008 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary Rasp (Post 2536677)
I've had this problem for about three weeks now. Under 5k rpm my car is lacking about half its normal power. After 5k rpm it still feels strong. When taking off from a stop, or accelerating under 5k, the engine sounds like it's being flooded; however, it starts and idles perfectly fine.

Here is the interesting part: when the car is cold. It feels very strong from idle all the way to redline. After the car warms up I loose most of my down low power.

The only engine mods I have are RB intake+duct and RB exhaust. Both mods have been installed for over 2 years without any issues. The car has 57k miles on it.

I tried the normal fixes. I installed new plugs. Checked all the fluids. Cleaned the air filter. I even completely reset the computer.

Help?

I had the exact same problem, lack of power below 5K. Came in to the dealer, dealer diagnosed low compression. I'm getting a new engine. Noticed the problem around 62-65K, diagnosed at 68K, car in the shop now. I had newish plugs at the time (put in at 55K) and new coils. Cat checked out OK at 62K and was still in great shape at 69K.

I don't get on the car hard, so I didn't notice the "cold power", but I don't remember noticing the cold acceleration being any better than hot.

My car idles so-so (Due to engine mounts) and it ended up stalling on me once at a stop light (at about 68K). I have RB exhaust and RB duct, stock intake.

So given that I had the problem for some 6K-8K, if not more, the car did not die on me and was drivable until the minute I brought it to the dealer for the engine replacement.

Astral 07-08-2008 12:38 PM

Do you have a decent dealership in the area? Go for a compression check with a proper rotary compression tester. It should take less than an hour, more like half an hour. Worst case pay for 1HR of labor.

You can typically make a deal with the dealer: if the compression check comes back at spec, you pay 1 labor hr for the diagnostic. If it doesn't, then they can bill it to Mazda as warranty work and get you a new engine.

nmarz77 07-08-2008 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rotary Rasp (Post 2541846)
Can anyone tell me if I did the compression test correctly?

Take the schrader valve out of it! Local parts store should have a remover.

Rotary Rasp 07-08-2008 04:09 PM

It didn't look like it was removable.



Originally Posted by nmarz77 (Post 2541952)
Take the schrader valve out of it! Local parts store should have a remover.


nmarz77 07-08-2008 05:00 PM

It screws out. Go to the parts store and ask them for the tool.

Rotary Rasp 07-08-2008 05:32 PM

So how will removing the valve differ from holding the release button down?

Rotary Rasp 07-09-2008 01:13 AM

I went and bought a scanner today.

Code: P0506 - Idle control RPM Lower than Expected

What does that mean?


btw, the cel is gone but the code is still stored.


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