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I had a small annoying leak. Every 4 to 5 days the sensor alarm comes on. Soo.... I thought I'd use the Green goop tire fixer / saver or the mazda repair tire kit. After I attempt to put some of it. A very small ammount went in. Then no dice.

I then thought I would see if air would go in. No dice!!! I cant get air into the tire?

What is wrong? The valve stem is all the way out and I have screwed it in.

What is blocking the hole? The goop? I tried to spray a bit of water to loosen it up... no dice. ( I know water is baaaad)

Any ideas ladies and gents?

StealthTL

iTrader: (1)

For the Green goop, I thought the procedure was to take the valve right out, put in your goop, then inflate - sounds like you plugged the valve up.


S

X-E-0-3

I took the valve stem out , then put the green goop in. The goop would not go in so I squeezed a bit. Then put the stem back on and tried to inflate. No air will go in whatsoever. The mazda pump maxes out. *shrug*

X-E-0-3

What should my next step be?

Tigster

Buy a new tire, the goop is a last resort. You should have had the hole patched or even plugged before ever using the green goop.

X-E-0-3

The hole is as big as a needle or smaller. VERY slow leak, no need for a patch. Green goop would have patched the hole perm. Nothing was found visually or water seen bubbling.

If the tire was brand new, and I still could not get air in. What is the problem?

Pilgrim

Try replacing the valve stem. That may have been the source of your leak in the first place.

Pilgrim

X-E-0-3

A valve stem is NOT present. I have taken that out. Nada I hooked up a air comrpessor it cannot put air in the tire.

That is my whole problem.

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

there is something wrong with the valve stem part. Cuz I used to have this annoying leak as well, like every few days, depends on your driving habbits. If you keep it below 60 it leaks really slow, if you go anything above that, you might have to put air in it every day,

been to 3 places still cant find the problem, finally last place found it and it cost me 25 bucks (replaced)

never had a leak ever since, been a year.

and I think you screwed yourself over with the goop. Thats not something that you want to use , like the others said, its the last last LAST resort, bring it to a tire specialist shop.

Phade2

Are you sure you have a puncture? If not have the dealer remount your tire. Maybe it wasn't mounted correctly on the rim. It happened to me once, they couldn't find anything and remounted it. No problems since then.

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

that could be it too, but if its mounted improperty it should leak no matter what.

and goop should fly out (from the leak area, but he doesnt have any so I doubt thats the problem)

zoom44

did you ever identify a leak source?

has it been getting colder in kentucky lately?

do you park it in a heated garage?

when you took the valve stem out did air come out?

X-E-0-3

I live i Pa - old profile.

Park outside

Yes air came out. I had the car jacked up so that flat was not compressed to ruin tire. I put goop in, only a small amout went in. less than 1 oz. Could not get any other in. I got fed up and put stem back in to blow backup. Mazda pump maxed out and would not blow up tire. Nor does an air compressor?

I am either going to a garage to fix or a mazda dealership. Monday I hope

nycgps

iTrader: (1)

Go to a tire shop, the ones with GOOD history. Not freaking garbages like pepboys

Said that you're 1000000% sure its leaking. they should be able to find it.

Anibal

the goop does have an expiretiont date! they last about one year and you have to buy one, and they are expensive, that is why as soon i think i have a flat i go to less schab and get my tire fix for free!!!

Anibal

last tire i fix was my daughter car and they had to dismount the tire and polis the lip, so it could make a good sell

X-E-0-3

I just bought the goop today so I know it wasnt expired. The mazda stuff I could not get in. That is when I thought to see if air would go in the tire with no stem inserted. could not get anything to do in. Made me sooooo mad.

I think I may go to a mazda dealership and have it fixed and they also check the sensor.

I have the worst luck

8hers

Don't the 8"s have TPMS? Tire preasure monitering systems? If they do you screwed yourself with the goo. TPMS unit is part of the valve stem and only has a very tiny orfice for air intake and release. You must have plugged it. you need a knowledgable tire shop now. Maybe they can dismount and clean it, then fix your tire right THEN they need to do a reset on your system. If they have to replace the moniter they are not cheap...somewhere in the $120.00 range...

Go48

By all means take it to a Mazda shop. If they screw up the TPMS sensor they will have to replace. An independent shop may not replace one at their cost. BTW, it's a $100 item.

X-E-0-3

Why does Mazda include tire goop if it plugs the TPMS sensor?

The shop said they cleaned the sensor, no goops seen. Air will not go into the tire.

Valve core or no valve core.

Ericok

If "air will not go into the tire valve core or no valve core" IT'S BLOCKED. You have to take the tire off and find out what's causing the blockage. The tire shop that couldn't find the problem the first time around should NOT be on your list of shops to fix this.

Nubo

It also renders the tire unrepairable. So why, indeed? Because it lets them pretend that spare tires are "old school" and unnecessary. Most of their customers are happy to share in that fantasy because it gives them a few extra cubic feet of trunk space, saves an insignificant amount of weight, and is 'cooler'.

?? So you are saying that AFTER you did all this, you took it to a shop and they dismounted the tire? That is the only way to check the sensor. This doesn't make sense -- why didn't you have them fix the thing?

By the way, the piece you remove is called the "Valve Core", the "Stem" is the part that stays on the wheel. Once you remove the core, there's nothing to stop air going in and out of the tire. Unless something blocks the stem. Sounds like something blocked your stem after you put the 1 oz of goop in. Either some hardened goop or foreign material. Maybe a piece of the valve core came off while you extracted it? Part of the core looks like a tiny o-ring. I've never seen one come apart, but who knows?

You might get lucky and be able to clear the blockage with something like a plastic toothpick. Anything harder, like wire or a metal needle will risk scratching the "seat" -- the part of the stem where the "core" makes a seal. If that happens the core may not be able to make a seal and the entire stem will have to be replaced. Iirc, the TPMS sensor and stem are one assembly -- so you'd have to replace all of it.

If you use a wire or needle, you need to keep it centered so it doesn't scratch the seat. Even if you clear the blockage, you may also need to get rid of any crud that would block the core from sealing against the seat . A pipecleaner might help finish up the cleaning but again be careful to keep the wire part in the center and not scratch up the seat. When you think you've got it cleaned up and air flowing, install a NEW valve core -- they're cheap at the auto parts store.

At worst, you'll need a new stem and sensor. Also the manual says if you use the goo you have to get the tire replaced instead of repaired. Not sure if 1 oz of goo qualifies.

dsmdriver

iTrader: (3)

This is something really simple, but:

If you have the core out, lots of air fillers won't operate. They need the core to push on a valve to let air flow. I know for a fact that the one I have in my garage wouldn't do anything without a core because if it did, it would just leak air all day.

Is this your problem?

SilverStreak

Another item for consideration, although it is a little late for your particular problem. There have been instances where people have experienced slow leaks that were not from a tire problem but from a problem with the TPMS sensor not being tightly mounted to the rim. The leak occurs at the TPMS/valve stem, not from a puncture. This was reported by people who had new tires mounted or after an off-rim tire repair (you have to release the TPMS sensor into the tire before dismounting the old tire). When the sensor is re- installed, if it is not tightened properly, a slow leak can result.

I agree that you should take it to a reputable tire shop to fix at this point. It is possible that little, if any, goop went into the tire so it may not require a tire replacement.

zoom44

what was the source of the leak?