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Since this would be the first ‘ recall’ flash (not counting the 2003 port reflashes) one would think it includes some major changes. I am still not quite sure what this would do for me? My 8 runs fine, I use Pre-mix so I don’t care about the MOP change. Has it been determined that this flash either improves power or mpg? Otherwise MOP & A/C idle issues are not a concern of mine.
no the thermal issue was a flash and blanket. the main reason to get it is because it to help keep your engine from needing to be replaced- especially the ATs. it'll be a recall so get it done
Originally Posted by r0tor
its pretty easy for a tech to test if a coil is good or bad... chances are they did that test before replacing it - those idiots
I also started running premix today so, we'll see how this does.
So the other day I took my 8 into the dealer to fix my squealing brakes (2nd TSB) and to see if I could get the new flash loaded becuase I have been having a rough idle and heard that this flash has fixed that problem on some 8's.
The response I get from the dealer regarding the rough idle / new flash after they have had my car for two days:
There is no new flash you speak of besides the flooding flash. Our techs typed into the mazda service support website your complaint of a rough Idle and it stated that afermarket intakes will cause a rough idle due to a disrupted stream of air flow to the MAF. They state that the stock airbox is designed to eliminate restriction and create a smooth air flow over the MAF. They instructed me to put my factory intake and exhaust back on and then they will recheck it.
O.k. well this response would be fine if I did not have a Mazdaspeed CAI and Exhuast!! Isn't the whole point of purchasing a Mazdaspeed product to avoid the issues that I just stated. I pretty much laughed at their response and clarified that they will not work on my 8 since I have an aftermarket intake and exhaust and did no troubleshooting at all. For the most part they agreed. They supposedly called a mazda service support tech supervisor and they confirmed this response to me. They even kept my car for two days to confirm their response. I find it funny that the extent of their troubleshooting is typing my concern into a mazda website and going only by what the computer spits out. What kind of self respecting mechanic does that?
How worthless are dealers. I said dont worry about it and picked up my car. I will troubleshoot the issue myself or take it to a different dealer. Sorry just wanted to vent.
The response I get from the dealer regarding the rough idle / new flash after they have had my car for two days:
There is no new flash you speak of besides the flooding flash. Our techs typed into the mazda service support website your complaint of a rough Idle and it stated that afermarket intakes will cause a rough idle due to a disrupted stream of air flow to the MAF. They state that the stock airbox is designed to eliminate restriction and create a smooth air flow over the MAF. They instructed me to put my factory intake and exhaust back on and then they will recheck it.
O.k. well this response would be fine if I did not have a Mazdaspeed CAI and Exhuast!! Isn't the whole point of purchasing a Mazdaspeed product to avoid the issues that I just stated. I pretty much laughed at their response and clarified that they will not work on my 8 since I have an aftermarket intake and exhaust and did no troubleshooting at all. For the most part they agreed. They supposedly called a mazda service support tech supervisor and they confirmed this response to me. They even kept my car for two days to confirm their response. I find it funny that the extent of their troubleshooting is typing my concern into a mazda website and going only by what the computer spits out. What kind of self respecting mechanic does that?
How worthless are dealers. I said dont worry about it and picked up my car. I will troubleshoot the issue myself or take it to a different dealer. Sorry just wanted to vent.
Originally Posted by I8U
Hell, the only test they did was look at them...I watched them do it! haha
I also started running premix today so, we'll see how this does.
I also started running premix today so, we'll see how this does.
if the coil is burned enough, you can actually see it... bastards fixing what needs to be fixed and not what you wanted them to be fixed!
yeah silly bastards^^
jdzoom call the mazda hotline and repeat your story to them CALMLY and make sure they get tha tyour "aftermarket" part is the MAZDASPEED INTAKE. their own part. then just calmly wait another week or so until the recall is announced
jdzoom call the mazda hotline and repeat your story to them CALMLY and make sure they get tha tyour "aftermarket" part is the MAZDASPEED INTAKE. their own part. then just calmly wait another week or so until the recall is announced
Originally Posted by dDuB
Hm I would be inclined to get this flash once the TSB hits and all but I'm just afraid of dealerships. No cat, loud exhaust, AEM CAI, TPMS light flashing all the time... I can feel some aggrevation that might come from them.
Originally Posted by zoom44
i use 6th in town at just over 40. my last tank mpg was 18.89

I try to shift as closely as possible to the recommended shifting points, which means shifting into sixth at 46 mph. If I am somewhere with a 40-45 speed limit I will generally do sixth also. The only one I don't routinely get (on the country roads by me usually) is shifting into second at 14 mph. I usually get that one around 17-18 because I am always pulling out on these oddly angled road curves that go uphill and then down. I average 23.
Ha, ha.
I do drive it hard and rev it high on occasion, just not in my "normal" daily driving, or at least not constantly in my daily driving. There is generally one place on my way to work where I will rev it up over 6K and one spot on the way home where I will do the same, but I don't do it constantly. My stop and go traffic on I-84 on my way to work when I am actually moving usually hovers around 4k-4.5K because everytime I shift up to third I have to stop almost immediately. Now, if I make no effort to try to shift into third we keep right on moving. LOL
I do drive it hard and rev it high on occasion, just not in my "normal" daily driving, or at least not constantly in my daily driving. There is generally one place on my way to work where I will rev it up over 6K and one spot on the way home where I will do the same, but I don't do it constantly. My stop and go traffic on I-84 on my way to work when I am actually moving usually hovers around 4k-4.5K because everytime I shift up to third I have to stop almost immediately. Now, if I make no effort to try to shift into third we keep right on moving. LOL
My buddy sent this to me today. Sorry if it's a repost.
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/24/m...call-the-rx-8/
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/24/m...call-the-rx-8/
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Just scheduled an appointment today, hopefully for a newer flash than I have. I spoke with the service deparment/dispatch and put out keywords "latest flash/download/pcm/computer" and they came back with "You want your container re-written" so I said yes. Is this "container re-written" what I want? Build date of vehicle is 5/05.
Not sure if it was mentioned but I recently noticed the fuel gauge seems to work better now. At first I thought my gas mileage went way down because the gauge was moving so much faster but yesterday I filled up after going 188 miles with 3/4 of the tank empty so maybe it has improved a touch.
With the current tank of gas I plan to run it down to when the light comes on to see how far I can go. Hopefully I can get 220+ miles with the next tank.
With the current tank of gas I plan to run it down to when the light comes on to see how far I can go. Hopefully I can get 220+ miles with the next tank.
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Ok, the service representative could not flash it unless I had a problem, which I do not. He warned that if there's nothing wrong now I risk getting problems after flashing. He also said to come back in several weeks for the recall... Doesn't make sense, why would he tell me to turn the car in for the 2-day recall and get a flash done if, by his own logic, there is nothing wrong with my car now and he's unwilling to flash a perfectly good car?
see- just wait for h erecall
recall moves the flash one level higher than we talked about in this thread
Year Transmission/(Emission Type)/New PCM Calibration/Part Number/File Name
2004 A/T (All) N3Z1-18-881U SW-N3Z1EU000
2004 M/T (All) N3Z2-18-881T SW-N3Z2ET000
2005 A/T (Fed) N3ZA-18-881H SW-N3ZAEH000
2005 M/T (Fed) N3ZB-18-881G SW-N3ZBEG000
2005 A/T (Cal) N3ZC-18-881H SW-N3ZCEH000
2005 M/T (Cal) N3ZD-18-881G SW-N3ZDEG000
2006 A/T (Fed) N3M6-18-881F SW-N3M6EF000
2006 M/T (Fed) N3M5-18-881F SW-N3M5EF000
2006 A/T (Cal) N3M2-18-881F SW-N3M2EF000
2006 M/T (Cal) N3M1-18-881F SW-N3M1EF000
recall moves the flash one level higher than we talked about in this thread

Year Transmission/(Emission Type)/New PCM Calibration/Part Number/File Name
2004 A/T (All) N3Z1-18-881U SW-N3Z1EU000
2004 M/T (All) N3Z2-18-881T SW-N3Z2ET000
2005 A/T (Fed) N3ZA-18-881H SW-N3ZAEH000
2005 M/T (Fed) N3ZB-18-881G SW-N3ZBEG000
2005 A/T (Cal) N3ZC-18-881H SW-N3ZCEH000
2005 M/T (Cal) N3ZD-18-881G SW-N3ZDEG000
2006 A/T (Fed) N3M6-18-881F SW-N3M6EF000
2006 M/T (Fed) N3M5-18-881F SW-N3M5EF000
2006 A/T (Cal) N3M2-18-881F SW-N3M2EF000
2006 M/T (Cal) N3M1-18-881F SW-N3M1EF000
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Originally Posted by zoom44
see- just wait for h erecall
recall moves the flash one level higher than we talked about in this thread
Year Transmission/(Emission Type)/New PCM Calibration/Part Number/File Name
2004 A/T (All) N3Z1-18-881U SW-N3Z1EU000
2004 M/T (All) N3Z2-18-881T SW-N3Z2ET000
2005 A/T (Fed) N3ZA-18-881H SW-N3ZAEH000
2005 M/T (Fed) N3ZB-18-881G SW-N3ZBEG000
2005 A/T (Cal) N3ZC-18-881H SW-N3ZCEH000
2005 M/T (Cal) N3ZD-18-881G SW-N3ZDEG000
2006 A/T (Fed) N3M6-18-881F SW-N3M6EF000
2006 M/T (Fed) N3M5-18-881F SW-N3M5EF000
2006 A/T (Cal) N3M2-18-881F SW-N3M2EF000
2006 M/T (Cal) N3M1-18-881F SW-N3M1EF000
recall moves the flash one level higher than we talked about in this thread

Year Transmission/(Emission Type)/New PCM Calibration/Part Number/File Name
2004 A/T (All) N3Z1-18-881U SW-N3Z1EU000
2004 M/T (All) N3Z2-18-881T SW-N3Z2ET000
2005 A/T (Fed) N3ZA-18-881H SW-N3ZAEH000
2005 M/T (Fed) N3ZB-18-881G SW-N3ZBEG000
2005 A/T (Cal) N3ZC-18-881H SW-N3ZCEH000
2005 M/T (Cal) N3ZD-18-881G SW-N3ZDEG000
2006 A/T (Fed) N3M6-18-881F SW-N3M6EF000
2006 M/T (Fed) N3M5-18-881F SW-N3M5EF000
2006 A/T (Cal) N3M2-18-881F SW-N3M2EF000
2006 M/T (Cal) N3M1-18-881F SW-N3M1EF000
so i get a new motor and flashed with the T.
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