Big Money Pit

where are the top bolts 3 accessible from? i can't find any feasible way to get up there. the bottom three aren't a problem, but the top 3... ?

mysql

did you try removing the front tire?

Big Money Pit

is it necessary?

i thought it was back in there far enough to where the tire wouldn't be an issue.

olddragger

iTrader: (3)

you have to take the tire off and also take the brakeline support thing off. then you have to remove the motor mount, then you can get to them. the rear most stud is still hard to get to.
olddragger

Big Money Pit

yeah, you guys got any tips for that one?

i tried every extension known to man and couldn't get it out of there.

is there something i need to remove first for it?

(the mazda spends ANOTHER night up in the air in my garage)

TopGear8

iTrader: (3)

remove the air pump, since you have to anyway, then get it from the top

Big Money Pit

remove the whole thing or just the air injection?

what did you use as a cap?

TopGear8

iTrader: (3)

you trying to do this with the car running? You are just taking the manifold off right? so just take the egr valve, tube, and the stuff in the way of your hand and wrench getting down there temporarily to get to that rear bolt..

Big Money Pit

oh, alright.

i thought you meant to remove it permanently.

NgoRX8

iTrader: (1)

really tight to get it from the top. it it much easier to get it once the passenger front wheel is removed.

also remove the motor mount bracket, then you'll have room.

Big Money Pit

well, i knew about the motor mount coming out...

but after i get it out, do i need to put it back before i put the headers on, or after? i don't see how to cram everything back in there one way or another.

i got the exhaust manifold completely unbolted this morning, all that's left to undo are the o2 sensors and the motor mount, i guess.

mysql

ha ha ha.

After the turbo was pulled from the car, I looked at the manifold area and was thinking about how much empty space and how big that area was in stock form.

Big Money Pit

i'm having a real hard time figuring out the motor mount.

raise your hand if you used an impact wrench.

NgoRX8

iTrader: (1)

i did need an impact gun for that top bolt on the mount. jacking the engine up a lil helps relieve some pressure off the bolts, but they are on really tight.

once you get the mount bracket loose and the rubber mount off it takes some maneuvering and rotating to get the motor mount bracket off. then you can get at the manifold.

you reverse the removal to install. put the header in, maneuver the motor mount bracket in, and install the rubber mount back. you will have to jack the engine up or down slightly to get things in.

Big Money Pit

thanks! big help!

Big Money Pit

does anyone know the torque spec for the motor mounts?

NgoRX8

iTrader: (1)

bolt that goes through rubber mount: 37.2-51.9 Nm
bolts at the bottom of mount: 43.1-60.8 Nm
nut on top of mount: 43.1-60.8 Nm

Big Money Pit

thanks for all the hand holding.

this all seems a little bit daunting just to put on a header!

olddragger

iTrader: (3)

man i wish you could have came down for the install--if you are still having probs--i pm you my phone number--i am home usually after 6pm
olddragger

StealthTL

iTrader: (1)

you trying to do this with the car running?

Classic....

S

NgoRX8

iTrader: (1)

^lol

drive down to olddragger's place with the motor mount removed.
would be good if you haven't gotten anything out though, im sure he could help.

it is a tough install if it's your first time under there.

Big Money Pit

for the time being i bolted the stock exhaust back up until this weekend. i talked someone in to letting me come to their shop on a saturday to use their lift.

i could easily do this, i just need air tools which i do not possess (yet).

regardless, that motor mount still seems daunting.

olddragger

iTrader: (3)

you dont need air tools for this man-- but you are right --dont get outside your comfort level.
do you have the workshop manual? its a free download--it has step by step instructions, if your car is back together drive down this w/e and i will do it for ya
olddragger

NgoRX8

iTrader: (1)

true you don't Need air tools. i got off every nut and bolt off without it except one, and that was cuz i had someone try to get at it for me and semi-stripped the nut.

DOMINION

Sounds like fun. Thats why I will let my friend install my header for me lol
Let me ask you this; Is the O2 Sensor seized on most of the time? and you had to buy a new one? or a universal one and cut it lol