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Old 09-25-2003, 08:43 AM
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engine revs spike 3-4 times before levelling

When I start my 8 in the morning, revs are smooth @ ~1500-2000 for a few seconds, then I get 2 or 3 peaks to 3000 (approx. 1 second period of each peak), then smooths to nominal idle of 900 rpm.

My dealer tells me to expect the car to rev @ ~2000 for a few seconds steady, then down to idle revs. But I see these spikes that he can't explain.

Anyone else notice this phenomenon? Any insights as to what is happening and if it represents a problem?
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Re: engine revs spike 3-4 times before levelling

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When I start my 8 in the morning, revs are smooth @ ~1500-2000 for a few seconds, then I get 2 or 3 peaks to 3000 (approx. 1 second period of each peak), then smooths to nominal idle of 900 rpm.

My dealer tells me to expect the car to rev @ ~2000 for a few seconds steady, then down to idle revs. But I see these spikes that he can't explain.

Anyone else notice this phenomenon? Any insights as to what is happening and if it represents a problem?
I notice the same thing, though my "spikes" aren't quite 3000 (more like 2500-2700). Doesn't seem to be a problem.
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My rpm estimates are from memory so your numbers could well be more accurate.

Why do you say "no problem"? I've never had a car go through this periodic rpm cycle on startup before .... I hope it's no problem, but so far, I'm just ignorant of what is causing it to happen.
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FWIW, I remember the '89 RX-7 GTU I owned for a bit doing the <b>exact</b> same thing; perhaps it's a rotary ECU trick...
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Not to 3K, but does happen to mine. Of course every little thing different in a new car is cause for concern, but it only does it maybe 3 times, then it's over. I'm mentioning it when I take it in anyway. Doesn't seem as if a new car should exhibit this 'erratic' behavior.

Maybe a little ECU tuneup would solve it.
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Mine does the same thing early morning (when you hear it 'purr'ing)

I don't think its anything abnormal, my Toyota used to do exactly the same thing. Basically it all depends on engine coolant temperature (I think)

The cycle goes like this:

1. 2K for like 5 secs
2. 1.5K & 2K ~ 2.2K spikes (pretty fast)
3. Then goes down to 1.1K until the engine is fully warmed up.

As I said before, I have experience from my previous car. It used to do the same thing (except for the spike)
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mine does if often on the first cold start of the day ; it's usually done by the time the 10 second wait-to-drive span is over. Nothing to fret about.
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mine works the same way in the morning... i'm not concerned about it, it happens the same exact way every time so its probably an ecu program
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mine spikes around 2k in the morning or when I leave work.
I guess its normal
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Someone else mentioned this "spiking" after a cold start and said he used regular gas and it went away. I tried the same thing and the spiking also went away. I now use regular gas since I notice no difference in performance and the engine runs very smooth and quiet.

Word of warning though. I only have 2800miles on my RX-8 so if the compression improves as the engines breaks in, I may have to switch back to premium, especially if I hear pinging or other noises.
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So you're saying that I shouldn't be such an old woman ...

Thanks for the feedback, I'll quit worrying about it. I will mention it to the dealer when I go in to get the newly released basepan installed.
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FWIW, I've been using 87 octane for about the last 6 or 7 tanks and still have the up/down surge during initial warm-up (like this morning around 60 degrees). and another FWIW, Shell doesn't seem to increase mileage.
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I dont think it has to do with the type of gas
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