tajabaho1

well, my engine is new, they shipped it from Japan, and well, when they installed it, looked new anyways,

the warranty for drivetrain is reset for the engine, which means you give them the slip that says engine replaced at so-and-so miles, and thats your new warranty

yes it has 0 miles on it, but when a person buys it, you gotta tell them that, and got the docs to prove it, and my engine VINS number do not match the one on my car..........

and dude, once you change it, it still feels like it always had, unless you freaking customized your rotor blades, but then they won't replace it for you

Rhythmic

Swoope: How did you, or the dealer, determine you needed a new engine?

swoope

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car was in for power loss under long cruise conditions... it was in multiple times... i could mask the problem by premixing for about 20k miles...

when the recall came out, i knew about that 2 months in advace..

all they had to do was follow the flow chart on the recall...

i got to skip all the testing.. if you take the time to read the recall, and testing procedures you will learn a lot..

beer

nycgps

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Now Im thinking should I stop premixing for a few tanks and see how my engine reacts.

I never had any power lost problem. but just wanted to be sure. agreed swoope ?

swoope

iTrader: (5)

sure,

i think it would take a long time for it to happen anyway... and why some failed and others didnt doesnt seem to have a real answer..

i am still mixing, but i am down to about 3oz per tank.. a safety measure..

beers

nycgps

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I usually mix between 6 to 8 oz.

I dont know, Im on my last quart of premix (used 12 quarts in maybe 6-7 months I think) reordered already,

ahh forget it, I never had a problem before I premix anyway.

swoope

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if you never had the problem you are not a little on edge about it...

it is a sick sick feeling when it happens...

beers

PhotoMunkey

Damn swoop! You've already got more miles on your reman than I have on my entire car! Since I purchased my 2006 in mid-August 06, just a week prior to the recall, I got the reflash done almost immediately. I'm a guinea pig for the "ain't never gonna need no motor" club (or so Mazda USA hopes).

BTW- I haven't dynoed mine for power yet, but compared to the 04 Jetta GLI 1.8T I had, and the heavily-modified 2003 Mustang GT I had, this one feels like it's shuffling every bit of 195 or so to the rear tires. It certainly goes through the fuel like it is!

PaSs1oVeR

well, car did the same thing to me today. Going around a corner, speed up ... shift into 3rd and power instantly dies. Check engine light goes on and no go above 2k rpm's

gimp it back to the shop I work at around the corner and park it. Gonna call mazda in the AM and have them pick it up. so, we'll see ....

wierd thing is, at idle it would rev itself to like 2800 or so and stay there.

oh boy .... i gotta drive a rental car now, /sigh

Tokugawa1973

Wow. I've seen a few threads now about the bad engines.

This is crazy, there has to be a major issue with these engines and why they are going bad.

Just replacing the engine everytime it goes bad isn't fixing the problem.

I think I might write a letter!!

PaSs1oVeR

got it back yesterday. They replaced mounts, plugs, and wires. Said they found the ends of my wires were corroded.
Still doesnt explain why its doing what its doing imo.

Going in to work, just turned out of my subdivision, bam! check engine/traction light come on. No power, gas pedal is unresponsive and car stays idling at 3k rpm.

This is the 5th!! time this car has done this to me. What makes it even better is to hear your service rep talk to you about "all the crazy things these rotaries do, but none of them know why" ... uhhh, huhwha? ... "low compression when they test it 1 day, but the next its fine, error codes and funny happenings that even '20 year vets' cant figure out"

Seems to me, their just throwin parts at it and hoping 1 of them will fix it. So far, TPS on pedal and TB, engine mounts, plugs, plug wires, and numerous other tests to try to find a cause.

Mazda roadside is coming to get the car, for the 2nd time this week. Eh, so much for buying this heap of crap when the lease runs out. F-that

Tokugawa1973

Wow bro that sucks!!!

The more threads I see like this about the 8, makes me wanna start looking at the 350Z or EVO VIII.

Do they not test the car before giving it back to the owner? Just to make sure they fixed the problem?

Pass1over, bro! This being the 5th time and the problem keeps on happening, would they continue to to try and fix it or would they try and make it right and give you another ride?

How does that work?

PaSs1oVeR

Finally got my car back, again. They replaced the throttle body this time. And guess what? it did the same thing not 10min after I got it. Check engine light and traction control light come on, throttle pedal is unresponsive, engine revs to surges between 2800 and 3200

this is the 6th time my car has done this in almost exactly 2 months. It was after hours for mazda service, so its goin back tomorrow morning. I dont think im taking any other answer/fix for my car other than a new engine or a new car.

The only thing im happy about is that I dont have any mods on my car other than tein springs, so theres nothing for them to try to place the blame on for these happenings.

MazdaManiac

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You've got a bad ground somewhere.
As a matter of course, they should swap the battery and PCM with known good components (obviously, they are NOT following the diagnostic flowcharts in the FSM), but I'll bet a box of donuts that its just a bad ground wire.

PaSs1oVeR

your wanting to do exactly what their doing ... just throwing parts at it and hope 1 of em will fix it.

their replacing the engine wiring harness now.

mac11

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that sure isn't cheap.

PaSs1oVeR

yea, go0d thing its under warranty.

so far parts replaced:
both TPS
throttle pedal
plugs
wires
motor mounts
throttle body
engine harness

mac11

iTrader: (1)

At least MazdaManiac is suggesting that the service people follow a pre-determined set of instructions to diagnose the problem. That's not exactly throwing parts at it. Suggesting that they should just look for a ground fault could fall into that category but in this case i tend to agree with his assessment.

PaSs1oVeR

he said its probably a faulty ground so they shoudl replace the battery and ecu ... what if its not the battery or ecu .... then its just throwin parts at it. Who says their not following a stepby step ... everything their replacing seems to be somewhat related to me. I'll give ya the phone number to the dealer ... frankly ... i dont give a damn anymore.

just about everything theyve replaced (mounts aside) has been related to fuel regulation of some sort.

I cant tell them they shoudl follow tsb#blah blah blah ... their the dealer, my cars under warranty, let them have the headache.

tjbourgoyne

PaS - hope hertz doesn't do a search for "hertz and shelby" and find a picture of you smiling with a cloud of burn rubber. They will also check the tires when you turn it in. Good luck.

MazdaManiac

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I didn't say replace the battery and PCM I said swap them with known good components.
This is part of the FSM procedure and a good practice since it eliminates two of the big hitters in problems like this.

But, since you know better, I'll defer to your judgment.

mac11

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you just had to toss in that little ******* tag line at the end didn't you?

PaSs1oVeR

to0 bad that was like 3 months ago and any tire wear or lack of tread wouldnt matter by now. This has no relation to whats going on now. ALso, that has NOTHING to do with my mazda. My dealership doesnt use hertz, so who the fo0k cares?! That was done in florida when I was down there on vacation. Im not paying for the POS ford focus they put me in for hte past week (they use enterprise, and pick me up! haha) Cool burnout though huh?

swap = replace parts. Its the same thing, I just choose to use a larger word than you. No, i dont know better, i said that. Im letting the dealership take care of the problem, its their business, their supposed to know best. Its under warranty ... I DONT CARE ANYMORE!!

swoope

iTrader: (5)

uh,

mm got it right..

to the op... the fuel pump harness has been a problem on one or two posts here..

beers

PaSs1oVeR

cool! .... let mazda figure it out
i didnt buy a new car to have to tell them what to fix and check for. I have another car that I get to do diagnostic/fixing on, NOT this one.