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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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ECU: Mazda same as Ford?

I'm still new to the forum, so this question may have been answered, although I can't seem to find a definitive answer through searching.

Does the RX-8 share the same ECU with Ford (i.e, EEC V)? I was told that it does, but after reading through some posts, it doesn't appear that it does.

Ford uses a modified Intel 8052, I believe. It seems Mazda uses a SuperH (confirmed yet?) from the Sticky.

Anyway, I would appreciate any clarification if someone knows for sure.

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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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I would say NO. almost 100%
And even if it is the 'same' ecu, the programming will be totally different.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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I agree the programming would be different. However, some, if not the majority, of the interfaces may be standardized for cost purposes--assuming Mazda and Ford share any technology (which, I'm assuming they do).

There's a lot of work in decoding EEC V going on, it may help the effort here significantly.

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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I would guess that they share only the same interface.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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Its a Mazda ECU, but Ford had their fingers in the design.
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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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It's a Mazda ECU. It's a newer version as well. It talks CAN (ISO15765), and doesn't use any microchips on the common market.

It's supposedly using a 32-bit micro variant of the SH4, but That's just heresay.

If you do a search, you'll find a lot more. The maps are guaranteed to be encryped, and you won't crack that key without superb cryptographic help. IMHO, Reflashing a custom fuel map would be a much harder task than making a custom ECU replacement, just to make the encryption come out right, unless you work for Mazda Japan, and are the engineer who did the actual factory maps..

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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Actually,

It depends on the encryption scheme. (Finally I can help with something) If we could get an encrypted copy of the maps and it used anything short of 128-bit, I could have it cracked in less than a week.

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