E brake and ABS
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E brake and ABS
Does anyone know if the ABS prohibits the rear wheels from locking up when you apply the e-brake (handbrake) while the car is moving? (ie performing a "handbrake turn")
I was experimenting in the wet today with DSC/TCS OFF and found it almost impossible to lock up the rear tires with the e-brake. I only managed it twice and I had to practically pull the handle out of the centre console to do it. Could this have something to do with the fact that the ABS cannot be turned off, or is it just that the e-brake in the RX-8 is extremely weak?
P.S. Please spare me the "you should be on a racetrack" lectures. I was in a wide-open empty carpark.
I was experimenting in the wet today with DSC/TCS OFF and found it almost impossible to lock up the rear tires with the e-brake. I only managed it twice and I had to practically pull the handle out of the centre console to do it. Could this have something to do with the fact that the ABS cannot be turned off, or is it just that the e-brake in the RX-8 is extremely weak?
P.S. Please spare me the "you should be on a racetrack" lectures. I was in a wide-open empty carpark.
WAY weak hand-brake.
There just isn't enough mechanical advantage on the lever arm to get the thing to lock up.
That is a cheap (ie - unskilled) way to get the rear around, anyway so why bother.
There just isn't enough mechanical advantage on the lever arm to get the thing to lock up.
That is a cheap (ie - unskilled) way to get the rear around, anyway so why bother.
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Originally posted by MazdaManiac
That is a cheap (ie - unskilled) way to get the rear around, anyway so why bother.
That is a cheap (ie - unskilled) way to get the rear around, anyway so why bother.
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I prefer the brakes followed by the throttle to the hand-brake alone. If you can't accomplish the same thing with the throttle, you need more training (and, perhaps, a bit more power).
I prefer the brakes followed by the throttle to the hand-brake alone. If you can't accomplish the same thing with the throttle, you need more training (and, perhaps, a bit more power).
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Originally posted by MazdaManiac
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I prefer the brakes followed by the throttle to the hand-brake alone. If you can't accomplish the same thing with the throttle, you need more training (and, perhaps, a bit more power).
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I prefer the brakes followed by the throttle to the hand-brake alone. If you can't accomplish the same thing with the throttle, you need more training (and, perhaps, a bit more power).
It didn't take much to get my ~140hp Miata to spin 180* with some throttle/clutch modulation.
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Yep - only 400 miles on the car as of today, and have performed two e-brake assisted power slides - great fun, and it really scares the shieeit out of the clerks behind the glass at my convenience store. Mo' Power is always a good recipe for any stunt.
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