Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry (Post 4349772)

The only thing you need to be careful with really is coolant temps. The temp guage is a dummy guage and will not start to move higher till its too late.
Also, stay on top of your ignition.

Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4349777)

Driving it hard all the time will largely only kill your mileage, AS LONG AS you never overheat it. If you approach track levels of extended exhaust temps, then you can start warping your side seal springs, and eventually it will push a side seal out of it's place where it will clip an exhaust port and boom goes your engine.

Though driving hard all the time WILL kill your mileage. It takes gas to make power. The more power you are using, the more gas you will burn through. If you REALLY want to know if you have a mileage problem, drive an entire tank on the highway, with cruise control on at ~100km/hr.

Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 4349788)

There's got to be some point where driving hard affects engine life. Otherwise race engines would last as long as street engines.

Chris - for the sake of data collection, try driving moderately for a tank or two and see what that does for your kilometerage.

Ken

Originally Posted by xexok (Post 4349782)

Riwwp I think I remember reading on here that if you drive it hard you also wear your bearings much faster, so you really have to choose what you want to wear. You can either baby it and kill it with carbon or drive it hard and have fun and have some other type of engine failure eventually. Is that right?

Originally Posted by Chris Ryan (Post 4349785)

Had the gauge moving up while pushing it in mouton roads ended up not being able to get higher than 3k...

what do u mean by stay on top of my ignition

Originally Posted by ken-x8 (Post 4349788)

There's got to be some point where driving hard affects engine life. Otherwise race engines would last as long as street engines.

Originally Posted by Chris Ryan (Post 4349785)

what do u mean by stay on top of my ignition

Originally Posted by Chris Ryan (Post 4349789)

but i am worried if i keep driving it like that i might blow my engine up like staying at 7500rpm for 5 min and stuff. also how do i know if I'm overheating if the gauges only moves up when its too late ?

Originally Posted by Chris Ryan (Post 4349790)

just meant that today i revved up a mountain road for 20 kms staying CONSTANTLY over 6k rpm... and higher ( burned up 10l of gasoline these 20 km ) but the question was if i am about t0 blow my up or whatever or if its good for it

Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4349792)

Driving it hard only wears the bearings if you have insufficient lubrication. Typically fresh oil of a sufficient viscosity will keep all bearing wear away. However, driving it really hard heats up the oil significantly, which lowers the viscosity and burns out the ability to lubricate. Once this happens, you are wearing the bearings at idle as well as at full throttle redline. But this is true of piston engines as well. Fresh oil will protect the engine from hard use, worn oil....not so much.

But yes, if you baby it all the time you will over carbon it, and driving it hard all the time (like a full race car) will kill it from heat problems. Street driving it's pretty hard to get to the point of side seal problems unless you add forced induction (power = heat), but street driving you typically don't have nearly as fresh oil and cooling system maintenance as a race car, so they are prone to be weak points more readily.



Having the OEM coolant temp gauge move at all is a bad thing. Very bad. It doesn't start moving until you are already in critical damage territory. It's possible to escape unharmed from this, but not likely. A single overheating can warp your engine block parts, blow coolant seals, etc...



Certainly is. The race engines that see only 100% throttle and 100% track duty typically have side seal failure. See my above points on hard street driving and oil/cooling though. Different set of problems from different care of the car.

Originally Posted by RIWWP (Post 4349799)

In general, that driving demonstrated in the video isn't harmful to the engine. Although I certainly would have upshifted a gear rather than letting it hang at redline like you did a few times. All you are doing at that RPM in light throttle is generating heat. A LOT of it.

That driving isn't anywhere near the race level conditions that I was referring to.


And there are various ways to get an aftermarket water temp gauge, including through the ODB2 port and a physical gauge.

Originally Posted by 1.3_LittersOfFurry (Post 4349851)

Man I want to go drive on that road now... :lol:

Like mentioned before no need to hold the rpms so high. IIRC the stock water pump does not work well above 7krpms, but luckily there is a solution, the REmedy water pump. Might want to look into it.

Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 4349828)

You're doing it wrong. No need to keep high rpms when driving behind cars.