Yea we should

I think I can rebuild, but I dont think I can take/put the engine out/back of/to the car.

If you can go through an engine rebuild in person with someone who knows what they are doing, and see how the parts are checked and handled, then you can probably do it yourself and have it be okay the first time. IF you think you can pick up a book, a box full of seals and do it yourself, never having seen any of it before personally, then no, it is doubtful that you would get everything right the first time. It is a steep learning curve if this is the case.

A lot of the ability to judge what is and is not good/reuseable, comes from experience of seeing many cores torn down. IF you do not have this, you are basically flying blind for the most part.

IF you can't remove the engine and tear the external pieces off it, and then reinstall the stuff onto it and reinstall it, then I would not say that you can do your own rebuild and have it be right the first time. That's my opinion only, though.

I know what ya mean man,

thats why I said "I think I can"

"I think" does not mean success lol :)

Meh, I dont think theres any good Rotary shop in NYC where I can *watch and learn*

...

*sigh*

NYC stinks.

pm sent to paul but no reply. pm sent also to k landers w/ a reply :) the dealership/ sales rep is trying to work it out. we will see what the rat bastard can do.....

until then I will keep this thread updated.

wish me luck.

bino-

I appreciate the opportunity to help out the 8 community finally. In fact I have an rx-8 customer car here right now for rebuild as well. I should be able to nail down the pricing structure more firmly once I do a few jobs and get a better idea of which parts I will plan to reuse and replace as standard in renesis builds. I want to see a few more cores before I make that decision.

Personally I don't think much at all is 'secret". It is more a matter of the person involved. Let's be honest with ourselves...if a man knows so much about the engine, then he has no business being here asking others how to fix it. So if you are here asking, that generally means you do not have the ability to do it yourself with confidence.

As stated above, there is a good percentage of people that COULD in theory rebuild their own engine. There is a small percentage that could do it, and have it be "right" the first time. Most people are not willing to take chances with something as sensitive as a rotary engine, so it makes financial and common sense for them to have someone else do it who is more familiar with the parts and offers a guarantee of results.

There will always be a group of DIY'ers that can do the job themselves...it is how all the shop owners and best mechanics started out. But take it from me...I see a lot of failed projects come in my door due to part time mechanics who overestimate their abilities, or underestimate the job. I get asked (and paid) to pick up the slack and put it all back together and make it work, which I gladly do.

Some people also have life circumstances that do not permit them do to their own work. Maybe they choose to live in an apartment or condo with strict regulations about working on cars? Maybe they own no tools? Maybe they have no time due to school or family? Maybe they have a job that requires a lot of time, and they have more money than time.

In all these cases it makes sense to have a specialist take on the job to ensure a good result and a timely completion of the project.

Open source is well and fine if you are a computer programmer, but if you show me a site full of open source information it won't mean jack shit to me because I am not. So I still need some help if I want a specific task done. :)

Sorry for the lack of reply. I saw your PM and then couldn't find it again (Inadvertently deleted). So sorry. Whatever you do, I hope it works out. If we can serve you I will give you a nycgps discount. At any rate, I only have one left and our builder is not available for several weeks to do any others due to racing projects so best of luck with your situation and whatever decision you end up making.

Paul.

^^ lol !!!

Well Bino, see how much the shop will charge you, but from what I've seen, ur front rotor is all gone. including all housing and stuff thats around it.

those parts if getting them from Mazda, Im pretty sure it will cost about the same as getting a Reman from Paul @ Mazmart.

You should take Paul's engine, its the last one :)

Edited : I just did a search on Rotor housing, the Front Rotor housing Alone, original part number is N3H110B10A, it has been superseded by N3H110B10C, hmm, meaning they updated something to the housing, anyway that part "alone" cost 583.00

Intermediate rotor housing, N3H310D00 was superseded by part number N3H310D00A, cost 452.24 ...

not to mention the rotor itself, gasket, etc.

if you get it i was just at Mazmart yesterday- well, thursday. All of the stuff there is in great shape and the motor he has left looks great too. They have an awesome facility and im going to be getting some lapping done there for my own 13b rebuild :D Good luck- hate to see a renny so tore up!

If he is in Mazda Motor Sports program he can get all the parts for maybe what 10-20% less than retail price ? I think.

but meh, just get a Reman from Paul. save all the hassle.

it's ALIVE!
 

Well this weekend I finally had the time and place to install my 2005 12k rene. All I can say is WOW! The engine started on half a key turn! I thought something went wrong. My old engine never started that quick ever even with new plugs, low mileage coils.

I remember complaining a few months back about low power fairly tough starts.

I never knew how much power, response, smoothness, the whole 9 nine yards! Anyway, I blew my last rene. Not by abuse, but not using common knowledge and should have done a compression test.

So, my happy has to get back to work.

Gambean. Congrats on getting your car going again. This has been a VERY informative thread - thanks for starting it; and for the contributions of the others.

Just on a curiosity note, what happened with the Warranty company?

Hey man, sorry I couldn't make it that day to ur place. man, the honda dealership is pissing off big time but save that for another topic.

Anyway, good to see u back on the road, Im going to pick my car up from the bodyshop today. Are you coming to the meet this saturday ?

yes indeed.

boy, being w/out warranty really feels great! :)

I'm donating my lost parts to rotaryresurrection. I can only assume since you cannot reuse any of it, he's probably going to dissect it and give us an education. :p

oh wait he already enlightened us.

next month actually the 3rd, I will have my day well night in court.

I'm going to take pics of some parts that I'm letting go sometime this week.

stay tuned. ;)

I'd hold on to those parts, just to be certain, untill all proceedings are complete.

[QUOTE=kristopher_d;2448414]I'd hold on to those parts, just to be certain, untill all proceedings are complete.

I'm a :knob: . It didn't even pass through my mind....good look kris_d

kevin if your reading this, the parts are still yours. my word is good.

after june 3rd (court date) I will have them shipped.

I kinda thought the same thing. Obviously, feel free to keep the stuff as long as necessary, just let me know when you are ready to ship and I will pay you for the shipping.

3 more days for rotary justice!

rofl !~