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Old 04-06-2004, 06:16 PM
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Question catalytic converter question

When I got home from work today, I smelled something strange. I thought that something like a twig or paper might have been touching the exhaust, but when I look under the 8, I saw that the cat was glowing bright red (by the 02 sensor, the only place I could see through the heat shield), is this normal?

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Old 04-08-2004, 03:53 PM
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Something might be wrong if it is glowing bright red. I drove mine like mad before I went and swapped my midpipe in. While the cat was hot... it was certainly not glowing.

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I have the rough idle problem as others are having and my gas mileage is still about 13 mpg. I think maybe my plugs are fouled and maybe there is unburnt gas heating up the cat. I took it to the dealer for the idle and gas mileage problem and got a responce of its the "nature of the beast" in referance to the rotary motor. So I'm not sure what to do.
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Maybeyou can try to take a pic of the cat when it is bright redand then take the car into the dealer andshow them the pic.
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or you have a clogged cat. and that will kill your gas mileage.

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Ask your dealer to check the cat. It may be blocked, they should be able to tell by checking the exhaust emissions and O2 sensor readings.
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I checked the temp of the cat with my OBD-2 CANScan and it shows about 1190deg. F. with engine running. That seems high, anyone else have numbers to compare?
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that isnt' abnormal for a rotary engine...teh exhaust gasses in a rotary normaly are around 1600-2000 (if you get on it)...teh rx-8 with it's 13b-msp is supposed to be around 1200-1600 deg. So you are within operating specs there.
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As others have said, it sounds like your cat is partially plugged. Take a trip to the dealership.
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If the dealer told you it was normal, go find a REAL dealer.
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Originally posted by Boilermaker
I have the rough idle problem as others are having and my gas mileage is still about 13 mpg. I think maybe my plugs are fouled and maybe there is unburnt gas heating up the cat. I took it to the dealer for the idle and gas mileage problem and got a responce of its the "nature of the beast" in referance to the rotary motor. So I'm not sure what to do.
here's my cat temp vs. speed for a 30 second run. As you can see it heats up fast!
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Here is another plot of cat temp for more normal driving.

You can clearly see unburnt fuel is going into the Converter during acceleration causeing a temperature rise.
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Originally posted by Omicron
As others have said, it sounds like your cat is partially plugged. Take a trip to the dealership.

wouldn't that cause a CEL to go on? Better not park over leaves if that is normal.
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yeah, holy cow... 1700 is a "little bit" high. you definitely have a case for some serious inspection.
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Originally posted by flatso
wouldn't that cause a CEL to go on? Better not park over leaves if that is normal.
I assume this is normal.... I would expect it to trigger a CEL If it is not normal.

It does tend to cool down fast.
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