qdog145

I have a 2004 rx-8, it has a little less than 15K miles on it, my brakes keep squeeling, I went to the dealership at around 12,500 miles and they told me they could not do anything since it was over 12K miles, what do I do, the noise is driving me nuts and the people next to me. Please help

priscilla ls1

Check and see if the brake fluid is low. That is somtimes the problem if u get squeeks. Check the brake pads too, pads are usualy the problem as your car only has 15K miles, But you never know. is it coming from the front ones or the back ones?

lurch519

go to this link, and print it out

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...6-04-1369b.pdf

if your dealership gives you a hard time, either bump it up the chain, or find another dealership.

i had this same problem with my 04 at about 9k, took it to the closest dealer and they told me they couldnt even duplicate the problem.

i move, and needed to get an oil change, took the tsb to my dealer, they said ok, no problem.

here is a link to just about all the tsb's for the 8,

http://www.finishlineperformance.com...ins_index.html

i had 3 of to take care of, seat backs on my gt, brakes, and grommets on the engine cover, plus some warranty work, and an oil change. took 3 days to get everything done, but ended up getting the oil change for free.

i also go in next thursday to get the big heat recall taken care of (haha, my car gets to be the guinee pig as mine is the first one they are doing, but they are also having their master mechanic do the work)

one thing you will notice about the new pads is that they have a better formulation, and are much cleaner when it comes to the brake dust, after 1 day on the old ones, i would have nasty amounts of brake dust on the front wheels, now i have 2 weeks on the new ones, with over 1200 miles, and they are less than 1/2 as dirty as the old pads were after a day

lurch519

mine started at 8k, and i got em fixed at 17k


easy way to check if it is the rears or fronts, durning light traffic on the highway, get up to speed and apply (very sparingly, dont yank it) your ebrake and see if you get the squeel. if no squeel, then it is your front brakes

qdog145

It is coming from the front brakes

qdog145

lurch519, your the man, i am going to the dealership right now. Thanks a bunch, i will ask you guys if i need anything else, i love this site. Ohh yea, once in a while, i will turn my car off, walk away, and the engine will still be running until i go and turn the key. any ideas

zoom44

could someone explain to me why the brakes would squeal if the fluid was low?

lurch519

no clue on that one, none at all

good question, maybe if the fluid level is low, the brakes aren't getting enough lubrication....... :D

therm8

That'd be you're fans trying to cool off the car.

zoom44

yes thats teh fan running two things. no wait 3 things

1. let the fan run its doing its job!!
3. read your manual.
C. if you cant tell the difference between the fan running and the engine running there are bigger issues we need to tackle here

priscilla ls1

Had this same problem before and it turned out the fluid was down to the last drop, after I put more in the squeeking went away.

How could you go from 1,3 to C?

zoom44

im funy that way

zoom44

HeelnToe

If you're losing brake fluid you really oughta have a tech check for leaks in the system.

I had the brake pad TSB done at around 10K miles. The squealing went away for a few hundred miles, then came back - though not as bad as before.

lurch519

sounds like they used the same ole original pads. i have well over a thousand miles now and no squeels

priscilla ls1

I wasin't losing brake fluid it was just low.
Where do you think brake dust comes from?

Chrisbert

My turn signal went out once, and i put more turn signal fluid in. Fixed it right up.

Chrisbert

Someone wanna help correlate what brake fluid level has to do with the production of brake dust?

Ah, I have it. The more brake fluid you have in the hydraulic system the higher the pressure. Therefore, the pads grip the rotors more tightly and result in higher friction and temperatures. Thusly, more dust is produced. Conversely, if I have no brake fluid in the system the pads don't ever touch the rotors and, voila, no dust.

Along4TheRide

I found that TSB that was mentioned in this thread. Unfortunately, my VIN number is too high.

When I mentioned the squeal to my dealership the last time I brought it in, they said that they would look at it. That evening, when we went to pick her up, they said, "Uhm, we didn't hear any brake squeal at all". Yah, right. Oh, and by the way, there was only 1 mile more on the trip meter than when we brought her in.

And it *still* squeals, every damn time we come to a stop. We were told, by the service department, that it's because of the type of pads that are used. Something about being metallic or something like that.

Seriously thinking of replacing them with something else.

priscilla ls1

Close, you see brake dust comes from the pads, and to get fluid to the pad it goes through your master cylinder. but if your low(or have no fluid) on brake fluid can result in less lube to the pads on the rotors. And that will give you the squeeking.

lurch519

i hope everyone understood that i was being sarcastic when i made this remark. the brake fluid itself does not (at least, for everyone's sake it doesnt)come in contact with the pads themselves. if it did we would be in serious trouble of not being able to stop.

the whole point of our brakes is to create friction so as to slow the car down, lubrication is absolutely the last thing you want

HeelnToe

Since you don't use smiley's or any other indication of humour, I can't tell if you're trolling, trying to be funny, or incredibly misinformed.

But be aware that people are taking your statements seriously and offering your suggestions to others.

On the small chance you're being truthful and serious, I'm going to repeat that if your brake fluid was nearly empty, you might have a serious problem which could cause your brakes to fail. Brake fluid doesn't get used up like oil and fuel, at least not at a rate it's filled one day, gone the next. Either you had your fluid changed and the tech didn't replace it properly, or you have a leak. If you have a leak, you're going to crash.

Chrisbert

Tell me you're not serious! Brake fluid is a hydraulic fluid; not a lubricant.

Holy Fkn Sht! How in God's name.....

Chrisbert

And, I mean that in a good Christian way.

HeelnToe

You have to admit though, a little WD-40 squirted onto the rotors would probably get rid of the squeak.

Of course, it would get rid of your car too (and driver) too.

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