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Is the 5W20 "Requirement" Just EPA Strong-Arming?

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Old 08-08-2005, 08:18 PM
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I should be up for my 3rd UOA soon (using Castrol GTX 5w-20)

I will post results once I have it done :D
Old 08-08-2005, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
the mandate from the epa is that the company must recommend the oil it uses in MPG and emissions testing. most companies are switching to 5w20s because they have found they get better mpg ratings with them. that helps them stay within the CAFE standards.

this has all been said here before by me and others
Thanks zoom44. I tried searching for "cafe" or "epa" and couldn't find where you (or anyone) had discussed this. However, I just figured out how to do a boolean search for both terms, and, sure enough...
Originally Posted by zoom44 on 12-21-2004
why is 5w20 recommened in the USA but not in other countries? simple answer- CAFE which stands for corporate average fuel economy. this is a US federal standard that each auto maker has to meet a certain product line wide avg mpg. Ford companies as well others have started shifting to thinner oils because they get better fuel economy during the EPA testing than heavier oils. now the answer to why 5w20 and dino oil is recommended and why does every Mazda employee stick to the company line. because whatever oil that is used when the car is undergoing epa testing HAS to be USED AND RECOMMENED FOR USE TO THE CONSUMER. they cant use one oil for testing and then have you use another. its against epa regs. That is the main reason they keep saying dino only. the other reason is that they just do not want to spend the time , money and personnell resources to test the efficacy of synthetic oils. the dino works fine so why bother? its a bottom line bean counter decision. (Source)
Sorry for reinventing the wheel in this new thread...

This is good discussion though, and hopefully the title of the thread will make it easy for others to find in the future.
Old 08-08-2005, 08:37 PM
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Thanks for you thoughts bxb40, interesting stuff...

I guess in the climate I am in (around 70-95°F during June-Sept) I should be okay staying with the Castrol GTX 5w20.

Why was it that Mazda had to 'import' and decant this stuff for the Aussies though? Do they not have dino oil there for some reason?!?!

Originally Posted by ZoomZoomH
I should be up for my 3rd UOA soon (using Castrol GTX 5w-20)

I will post results once I have it done :D
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