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Old 10-15-2006, 02:36 AM
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55k Mile Clutch

here you go... you can seardh my name to find out how i do launches...

my guess is at least 50...

the purple area is overheating... the disk, my guess would have lasted another 30 k miles... btw, i dont ride the clutch...

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While I had the motor out last month I replaced my clutch disk.
My pressure plate looked better than yours at 44k or so, but my disk looked just like yours with the center plate and marcel springs badly overheated and purple.
Did you mic the disk to see how much wear there was? (Measure the depth of the surface at one of the rivets - brand new it should be about 1mm; the wear limit is .3mm. Mine was about .2mm.)
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
While I had the motor out last month I replaced my clutch disk.
My pressure plate looked better than yours at 44k or so, but my disk looked just like yours with the center plate and marcel springs badly overheated and purple.
Did you mic the disk to see how much wear there was? (Measure the depth of the surface at one of the rivets - brand new it should be about 1mm; the wear limit is .3mm. Mine was about .2mm.)
dont have anything to mic it with... i had to band the crap out if it to look at the rivets... i am on vacation right now...

but i would say the disk would have lasted for a long while.. i am now ?ing my choice of pp...

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Im thinking which clutch I want to go too !

and I was thinking of getting the RB one, but I have no idea which pp would be good for it ....
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I've read that that area on the stock units is purple straight from the factory, and shops just point to it as "evidence of overheating". Not true?

If anything, I'd suspect that the blue areas saw more heat. The purple is near the bolt holes and the shaft -- places where heat would be sinked away.

Another question that comes to mind is the issue of "bedding". Seems to make sense for brakes. I wonder if a similar benefit could be had for clutch? After all it's similar interface -- friction material against a steel face.

Would take a lot more bravery to get the clutch smoking on a brand new car than doing the brake pads though. But, could be done in a driveway .

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I used to have a friend that run his own performance shop. He did mild hondas/toyotas to $$$$ people spending 20K+ on a motor. He moved away to a better area, but he was strongly for ACT clutches and he tried to make everyone that wanted a swap to buy them.

And no he wasn't doing it to make money, he could get them for you if your lazy, but he'd rather you shop for the best price then bring it in.
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Originally Posted by Nubo
I've read that that area on the stock units is purple straight from the factory, and shops just point to it as "evidence of overheating". Not true?

If anything, I'd suspect that the blue areas saw more heat. The purple is near the bolt holes and the shaft -- places where heat would be sinked away.

Another question that comes to mind is the issue of "bedding". Seems to make sense for brakes. I wonder if a similar benefit could be had for clutch? After all it's similar interface -- friction material against a steel face.

Would take a lot more bravery to get the clutch smoking on a brand new car than doing the brake pads though. But, could be done in a driveway .
the blue is the normal color for the clutch.

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No, its not.
I bought an OEM replacement for mine and it had no blue at all, thought it was identical in all other respects.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
No, its not.
I bought an OEM replacement for mine and it had no blue at all, thought it was identical in all other respects.
sorry,

blue is the color of every stock clutch that came out of a rx8 that i have seen... have not seen a replacement.

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Have you ever seen an original OEM clutch with zero miles? (I haven't, but it would be interesting.)

I think there is something inherently overheating these things right off the bat.
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they all blue once used, it is NOT a sign of abuse as some clueless dealers have tried to assert, it just gets that hot in there ...
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Interesting.
I've done scores of clutches over the years and the only ones I ever saw go blue were exceptionally toasted.
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no one seems to be able to answer this question ....

someone here said the stock clutch, starting 2005 model ? has MS clutch in it.

but no one can really give anybody an answer to this question ...
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