4th gear!!! GRR CRUNCH
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4th gear!!! GRR CRUNCH
Does anybody else have the problem of entering 4th gear at high RPM's and it not going in smoothly (when i say high rpms i mean 7k and up)... Almost to the point where if you dont baby it it will just sit and grind making you cry. It has no problem at any other gear and just under 5k on the car. Am i just asking to much of the stock clutch or is there somthing i should get taken a look at.
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I know there are a lot of people having difficulty shifting 1-2 (at high engine speed), but haven't heard anything about the 3-4 shift. I'd get that looked at if I were you.
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So if other people are having this same issue i wonder if its just the limitations of the stock clutch at high RPM's... But if that were the case wouldnt it do it at all gears?? Wheres a Techy when u need it : )
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Well I have had several problems with my transmission. However I have the automatic.
My local Mazda dealer checked out my transmission when it wouldnt go in reverse about 6 months ago or so. They said chips and pieces of my transmission were getting caught in the transmission fluid. They changed my fluid and everything ran fine after that.
My local Mazda dealer checked out my transmission when it wouldnt go in reverse about 6 months ago or so. They said chips and pieces of my transmission were getting caught in the transmission fluid. They changed my fluid and everything ran fine after that.
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i haveing major problems from third to second, and now it started from first to second... i checked the shortshifter, now im goin to check my install on my ACT clutch and flywheel.. if not that has to be tranny.. but i got so much sht on this car i voided my warrenty.. so i also looking for help for this grinding problem.. casue it's just getting worse
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Originally Posted by Aseras
it's too easy for me to go into 4th.. a lot of times i go from 5th to 4th on accident...
I did take it into Mazda--they said it was normal and that the tranny needed to be worn in.
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Originally Posted by Iceis8
Does anybody else have the problem of entering 4th gear at high RPM's and it not going in smoothly (when i say high rpms i mean 7k and up)... Almost to the point where if you dont baby it it will just sit and grind making you cry. It has no problem at any other gear and just under 5k on the car. Am i just asking to much of the stock clutch or is there somthing i should get taken a look at.
dang i been having that problem for a long time now.....thats why im scared to redline at 3rd gear because i know its gonna be grinding into 4th gear......
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Did u Knw Ur Grlz on my..
same exact issues I am having. I took it to mazda and they toold me that they couldnt road test it at that speed. They are ordering me synthetic gear oil to try to solve the problem. otherwise acording to the sevice manager " nuke the training, and get a new one under warrenty". How can i "Nuke'' my training, i can't even bring myself to drive it while it's raining
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I haven't shifted at redline from 3rd to 4th, but at my normal shift poiint (say 4,000 RPM), I can definitely feel a crunching through the shifter that I don't feel between other gears.
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I have always had the problem after the fluid warms up in the race car. Okay for the first couple of laps.
Keep in mind that the 1-2 and 2-3 shift use a really trick new ball-synchro mechanism to allow faster shifting, so the 3-4 will seem slow by comparison regardless. Why Mazda chose those two hubs I can only guess, maybe they figured most people would never keep "zooming" through the gears beyond 3rd@9000 rpm?
But that said, I am losing big lap time because the lag is SO bad for the 3-4 shift (I never use 5th or 6th so I don't know about them). I'd love to have a good 1st gen or Miata gearbox by comparison. I am going to tear the tranny down and see if I can find a fix this winter.
Steven
Keep in mind that the 1-2 and 2-3 shift use a really trick new ball-synchro mechanism to allow faster shifting, so the 3-4 will seem slow by comparison regardless. Why Mazda chose those two hubs I can only guess, maybe they figured most people would never keep "zooming" through the gears beyond 3rd@9000 rpm?
But that said, I am losing big lap time because the lag is SO bad for the 3-4 shift (I never use 5th or 6th so I don't know about them). I'd love to have a good 1st gen or Miata gearbox by comparison. I am going to tear the tranny down and see if I can find a fix this winter.
Steven
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I've had the same problem since I bought mine. Redline trans fluid helped a little bit. RP's Snickety-shift ( ) helped a little.
IIRC, only the first three gears have synchros on them. Slowing down the 3-4 shift has made the most noticable improvement. It doesn't take long for the revs to drop into an acceptable (rev-matched) range, and it will eliminate the grind.
Mine never really grinded, it would just refuse to go in. Like there was something blocking it. It'll still do it if I try to slam it, but my gearbox has loosened up a little, and I don't slam my gears.
IIRC, only the first three gears have synchros on them. Slowing down the 3-4 shift has made the most noticable improvement. It doesn't take long for the revs to drop into an acceptable (rev-matched) range, and it will eliminate the grind.
Mine never really grinded, it would just refuse to go in. Like there was something blocking it. It'll still do it if I try to slam it, but my gearbox has loosened up a little, and I don't slam my gears.
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synchro anyone? that'd be my guess....but i'm tired and havent' given in much thought :o also i'm not entirely sure of what kind our tranny uses...but i'm sure someone on here knows. good luck all.....
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Originally Posted by army_rx8
synchro anyone? that'd be my guess...
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Originally Posted by 8is>enuff
Is there a synchro on 4th gear? I thought I read somewhere that only 1-3 have them in our trans. I would be a bit more worried if this is true.
Anyone know definitively?
Anyone know definitively?
Paul.
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Never had that problem myself and I do come out of 3rd at the redline. did it earlier today as a matter of fact. the only problem i have is reverse. thought it was in there the other day and i grinded the hell out of that thing. i hollered but then looked and there was some hot women next to me. it would have to happen in that situation.
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