summer mod line up. suggestions??
im working all summer and im planning on blowing all of it on my car! :D
please give any suggestions or feedback, thanks Double din screen (suggestions? im on a budget) Evo R CF front lip kei office eyelids 06+ starter rear/front Greddy struts RB catback ive done a rough calculation and im thinking itll be around $2,700:eyetwitch |
lowering springs
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Originally Posted by Chad D.
(Post 3571178)
lowering springs
any estimate on install cost for those?? i dont wanna DIY a spring install |
I'm sure someone in Tx can help ya/
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progress tech sways.
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Bodykit
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Trade it for a MT or atleast an 06+ AT. I'm sure the $2700 will cover the difference not to mention you will be able to notice the change.
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Originally Posted by j8635621
(Post 3572053)
Trade it for a MT or atleast an 06+ AT. I'm sure the $2700 will cover the difference not to mention you will be able to notice the change.
it sux, but im making the best of what i got :sad: probably going starter, exhaust, springs, lip, then screen. then ill see what i have left over:lol: |
tein s-techs, front and rear sways, bhr ignition kit, cat back of your choice, CAI, cobb AP
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Originally Posted by ronx8
(Post 3572431)
tein s-techs, front and rear sways, bhr ignition kit, cat back of your choice, CAI, cobb AP
i was gonna get the bhr kit but i just replaced the plugs and coils, and wires tested fine and im going w/ the borla (love the sound) cai seems futile and im not getting an AP for a 4port AT, just not worth it to me :dunno: thanks for the list :) |
whoa.
cobb not worth it for the 4AT?! that's probably the best thing for your 4AT.. i dont have mine yet (im a 6AT), but it is definitely going to happen as soon as im off the tight budget. the s techs were a difference that I could feel from driving right away, but i dont know about struts or sways since I have neither. I have the mazdaspeed CAI, and it isnt useless. if you are sticking NA you will want each little horsepower you get, and with the cobb AP it will bring out even more gains.. the CAI will give a larger gain than your catback exhaust most likely |
Get struts if you are getting springs, as you will be able to install both at the same time. Sway bars can be put on later, though they probably make a bigger difference driving wise.
Cobb AP isn't just for power. It's the best all around mod for the money. |
Tint
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he got that "limo huper" tint YO!
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Wheels? Coilovers?
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Originally Posted by ronx8
(Post 3572551)
the CAI will give a larger gain than your catback exhaust most likely
Wrong... A good quality exhaust will give you more hp than a CAI... The CAI will give you like 1 hp and is more for sound. The stock airbox is perfectly fine, hell I believe Speedsource races their 8 with the stock airbox and paper filters. The RB catback will give you around 4-5HP |
all I'm seeing is that you don't want to DIY springs.... the DFW crew has done so many spring install days we can tackle one car in about an hour. Just make an install day and you'll have people around to help you out...provided there are refreshments.
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catback and CAI are mainly for sound/looks. Neither one nets much, if any, power.
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Originally Posted by adamwzl
(Post 3573099)
he got that "limo huper" tint YO!
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best recongize
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Originally Posted by j8635621
(Post 3573146)
catback and CAI are mainly for sound/looks. Neither one nets much, if any, power.
While I agree with you about the sound the catback opens more possibilities of more hp, drop in a midpipe with a good exhaust that 3" and bam that's like 7-11 more hp than stock. Bigger diameter pipes means less pressure... 3" pipe flows better than 2". Less backpressure = more hp |
First, I think you are making up numbers lol. Second, the midpipe makes the power difference, not the catback.
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Originally Posted by adamwzl
(Post 3573154)
best recongize
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he meant recconize
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or recognize..
but spelled that way aint gansta enough. its RECONGIZE |
haha spelling doznt kount, itz da indernet. :wiggle:
i dont wanna drop the cash on an AP cause im not trying to get a ton of hp (im not in denial about my 4port) I would love one but dont see it in the budget for this summers pay i wanted a catback for the sound, prob going w/ the borla instead of the RB since im going w/ a catback i dont want a useless CAI thats just for sound sways will get a better response than struts so im going with those. suggestions? thinkin RB's If I can get some people to come out for an install day to help me with the sways/springs thatd be awesome! I was thinking about it but i didnt want to screw up the suspension myself. Ill pay someone back if they wanna get some brewski's :beer05: |
OH and to whoever suggested wheels, i love mine
and I have tint limo on back, huper on sides. im re-tinting the sides, not dark enough:( |
shocks n springs + sways will change the handling dramatically... Also remember putting on springs is ok but eventually your stock shocks will give out a lot quicker.
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Originally Posted by Wig92
(Post 3573198)
OH and to whoever suggested wheels, i love mine
and I have tint limo on back, huper on sides. im re-tinting the sides, not dark enough:( I would say leave the rims for now and upgrade other suspension components and once you have extra money lurk around the fs thread for a good set of used ones. Thats what I did and just scored a set of fno1r-c's |
^SCORE!
do what mscamp said, update the suspension first. I got Bilstein HD's and Progress Tech springs on the way then next month will be the sways. |
Originally Posted by adamwzl
(Post 3573561)
^SCORE!
do what mscamp said, update the suspension first. I got Bilstein HD's and Progress Tech springs on the way then next month will be the sways. or i could throw out the nav screen and try for some coilovers. alot of coilovers come w/ springs dont they?? any suggestions?? and their enkei's?? there not the most expensive in the world but I dont think I'd throw that under cheapy ebay wheels :dunno: |
Originally Posted by j8635621
(Post 3573162)
First, I think you are making up numbers lol. Second, the midpipe makes the power difference, not the catback.
and since it sounds like he isnt going for a midpipe, i figured just go with the CAI and cobb tune |
Originally Posted by ronx8
(Post 3573572)
bingo.
and since it sounds like he isnt going for a midpipe, i figured just go with the CAI and cobb tune im mainly going for better handling,sound, and look. i think i can invest my money better with coils and other things than trying to squeeze a few hp out. IMO if i could have a noticeable difference w/ catback and the cobb i might consider it. but its alot of green |
ha im still in highschool also and parents wont let me trade for a MT but i have an 07 AT and i installed a borla catback with my dad its expensive but i love the sound. my next purchase is gonna be sr motorsports underdriven pulleys. i have a summer list also haha
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Originally Posted by adamlcm
(Post 3573699)
ha im still in highschool also and parents wont let me trade for a MT but i have an 07 AT and i installed a borla catback with my dad its expensive but i love the sound. my next purchase is gonna be sr motorsports underdriven pulleys. i have a summer list also haha
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Pulleys are useless!!!!! Cobb does more than power. It helps with engine responsiveness, injects more oil, and lowers fan temps to name a few things that don't add power. You can sell it for most of what you pay also. That's night and day better than the other mods you mentioned.
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Originally Posted by Wig92
(Post 3573568)
good to know, ill keep some money to the side for coilovers
or i could throw out the nav screen and try for some coilovers. alot of coilovers come w/ springs dont they?? any suggestions?? and their enkei's?? there not the most expensive in the world but I dont think I'd throw that under cheapy ebay wheels :dunno: Attachment 259842 |
Originally Posted by mscamp02
(Post 3573780)
haha then I have the cheapy repoped ones just like that off of ebay
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1274842978 for the cobb, could i tackle it myself or do i have to pay MM to do custom programming? I heard its worth having them do it but idk. im a noob in terms of AP's |
Just pay the 700 to MM and have him do it for you. Just get your mods you want on first, performance wise..
Say if you get a CAI, catback, mid pipe, bhr coils, then pay for the ap. You will see extremely noticeable performance increase even on your 04 at. The AP is really one of the best mods to do, saves your engine, increases mpg by 1-2 depending on mods. Now you dont have to buy everything brand new, eye ball the FS threads to get your exhaust. We might be able to get some sort of group here on a cai sometime in the summer. Should knock it down to around 260-280. Hopefully if one of our vendors choose to do so. It has been done before.... but who knows. Get the BHR coils, I know you just replaced yours but you can sell those for around 100 if they have less than 10k miles. Just be smart about your purchases, try for used if you can. Dont buy a used AP because youll have to pay for tuning, either from MM or someone else. Could end up costing you more in the long term. 2700 is a lot of money, you can get close to all perf parts and suspension update for that amount if you buy wisely. Word of advice, save all the money you get then start shopping. Don't buy anything retail wise inbetween unless its a unbeatable deal. While you wait to save everything watch the FS threads. There might be a good deal on something that you cant pass up. Such as borla exhaust for 450 or set of sways for 200. |
Originally Posted by adamwzl
(Post 3574077)
Just pay the 700 to MM and have him do it for you. Just get your mods you want on first, performance wise..
Say if you get a CAI, catback, mid pipe, bhr coils, then pay for the ap. You will see extremely noticeable performance increase even on your 04 at. The AP is really one of the best mods to do, saves your engine, increases mpg by 1-2 depending on mods. Now you dont have to buy everything brand new, eye ball the FS threads to get your exhaust. We might be able to get some sort of group here on a cai sometime in the summer. Should knock it down to around 260-280. Hopefully if one of our vendors choose to do so. It has been done before.... but who knows. Get the BHR coils, I know you just replaced yours but you can sell those for around 100 if they have less than 10k miles. Just be smart about your purchases, try for used if you can. Dont buy a used AP because youll have to pay for tuning, either from MM or someone else. Could end up costing you more in the long term. 2700 is a lot of money, you can get close to all perf parts and suspension update for that amount if you buy wisely. Word of advice, save all the money you get then start shopping. Don't buy anything retail wise inbetween unless its a unbeatable deal. While you wait to save everything watch the FS threads. There might be a good deal on something that you cant pass up. Such as borla exhaust for 450 or set of sways for 200. as for the saving, i was planning on doing exactly that. keep my eye on everything incase theirs a killer deal but still save till the end of summer then do one crazy install day :evil_laug 06+starter (asap), then catback,coilovers,AP, if money left over hopefully BHR ignition kit.... its gonna be a looooong summer :eek: |
You necessarily do not need coilovers. There are a lot of good shock/spring combo.
Koni yellow's / stechs, Tokico d-specs / eibach pro. Bilstien HDs / progress tech. To name a few. Tons of spring and shock options that will give you the same if not better performance than coilovers in the sub 1000 range. For a good set of coilovers will cost you a minimum of 1000+, if your not ready to spend that much then dont even bother with them. Basicly with coilovers there are tons of different options you can set and tweak to get that perfect feel. Its a great a mod and one of the best for suspension, but also you do not want to cheap out on them. The cheaper coilover sets are mainly to lower the car, most of the time they actually give off worse handling performance than the stock shocks/springs. If your heart is set on getting coilovers do some research and find out which ones you like the best. A forum favorite seems to be Stance GR+, but I prefer JIC FLT-TAR but they are more $$.. Really if your just want to lower the car, grab some stechs. But if you want lower + increase performance on a budget grab some stechs + koni yellows or tokico dspecs. |
Originally Posted by adamwzl
(Post 3574159)
You necessarily do not need coilovers. There are a lot of good shock/spring combo.
Koni yellow's / stechs, Tokico d-specs / eibach pro. Bilstien HDs / progress tech. To name a few. Tons of spring and shock options that will give you the same if not better performance than coilovers in the sub 1000 range. For a good set of coilovers will cost you a minimum of 1000+, if your not ready to spend that much then dont even bother with them. Basicly with coilovers there are tons of different options you can set and tweak to get that perfect feel. Its a great a mod and one of the best for suspension, but also you do not want to cheap out on them. The cheaper coilover sets are mainly to lower the car, most of the time they actually give off worse handling performance than the stock shocks/springs. If your heart is set on getting coilovers do some research and find out which ones you like the best. A forum favorite seems to be Stance GR+, but I prefer JIC FLT-TAR but they are more $$.. Really if your just want to lower the car, grab some stechs. But if you want lower + increase performance on a budget grab some stechs + koni yellows or tokico dspecs. after some research I'm gonna prob go with megan springs/tokico D-speck shocks as well as the borla catback. which all together is 1600 at raceroots. one other question. for the MM tuning w/ the AP. do i have to get it, install, run diagnostic then have to wait another 6 months for their tune??? idk if i read it correctly on their website. but if i do I would think i would need to install the catback before i run the diagnostic |
6 months is a little extreme. It would be best to put the catback on there first, but I doubt it makes much of a difference really.
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You should do all performance mods before installing or purchasing the ap. Reason is Jeff would really only have to tune your car once, rather then having to retune your car everytime you add a new perf mod. Then you would have to pay for the tune each time after the 6 month period.
It also makes it easier on you to not have to wait anywhere from 1-3 months on a tune each time you update your car. And makes it easier on Jeff because hes one guy doing it for 60% of the forum. Do not get Megan springs.... they are cheapies. Get some Progress Technology Sport springs, probably the best for the price. There around 180 shipped from many of our vendors. |
Originally Posted by j8635621
(Post 3574227)
6 months is a little extreme. It would be best to put the catback on there first, but I doubt it makes much of a difference really.
so ill do catback first, then the AP for the diagnostic and send it in for tuning then while im waiting for that hopefully get enough cash for shocks/springs. for the DFW crew, I'll need some help with the suspension installs so i was wondering if maybe a whole install day would be cool. instead of just help w/ my car. idk, im just throwing that out there??? |
Originally Posted by j8635621
(Post 3573162)
First, I think you are making up numbers lol. Second, the midpipe makes the power difference, not the catback.
Originally Posted by Wig92
(Post 3575378)
for the DFW crew, I'll need some help with the suspension installs so i was wondering if maybe a whole install day would be cool. instead of just help w/ my car. idk, im just throwing that out there???
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Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
(Post 3575396)
:lol2: look it up...
The Koni's are only @ 50% stiffness and they make the OEM Tokico shocks feel soft |
^^^ Thats what im saying... did I say that wrong??? I know that at full soft the Koni's are stiffer than the OEM Tokicos...
I guess i didn't elaborate enough for you :) |
Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
(Post 3575396)
:lol2: look it up...
Id suggest coming to a meet first before posting a install day just so you get a chance to meet everyone... and im sitting on S-techs/Koni Yellows and I love them... my car is the perfect ride height and feels great, plus the Koni's are only @ 50% stiffness and they make the OEM Tokico shocks feel soft...:ylsuper: Check out other peoples cars first before buying to see what your looking for, height wise... Lord ET already said some people could help me out with the DIY. Ive met alot of nice people with local 8's. dont make it seem so exclusive :) as for the shocks. I've seen setups with s techs and like the height, but I'm still deciding. Ill prob stick with blistein or tokico then some s techs or progress. But ill also check out the fs thread to try to find something cheaper still have plenty of time before im looking to buy. |
Originally Posted by WTBRotary!
(Post 3575449)
^^^ Thats what im saying... did I say that wrong??? I know that at full soft the Koni's are stiffer than the OEM Tokicos...
I guess i didn't elaborate enough for you :) |
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