I run 1 second in the 1/4

1/4 foot that is

Ray already schooled you, but you're plain smoking crack. I can't make since of what you wrote.

The tuning is in the EMS, NOT the solenoids!!

I don't know what you are trying to do chickenwaffles, but I did say that the tuning is done with EMS

I am pretty sure that everyone knows that too, why do you keep posting the obvious?

what I meant by zex being hard to tune is completely a solenoid issue and nitrous flow rate + fuel flow rate, the ignition timing has to be done via EMS but there is more to nitrous than to just changing jets

Taj, go post your dyno sheets on the "new" FI dyno comparison thread above this thread. Will be interesting to show the evolution of nitrous tuning on the 8 that will be forthcoming. They give you any crap bout not being SC or TC just remind them what FI is.

I agree that the dyno should be in the F.I. thread. But Nitrous Oxide injection is not Forced Induction aka supercharging.

hey charles, if my memory serves me correct you do not have any engine management ... is this the only reason yoru not running a bigger shot .. lets say 100?

The difference is mostly semantic... They do the exact thing and most people would group nitrous together with the other forms of "forced" induction...

nitrous is forced induction per say, its just not inducting compressed air, but still its forcefully inducting a change set of chemical compound into the engine

and I am done with posting my dyno on that thread, they don't seem to want to update their chart or anything, I will update the 1st post of this thread will newer nitrous dynos when they come, my next mod would be to do tuning with nitrous and possibly upping the shot to 75, I will have to talk with CRH about that though

Both are introducing more oxygen which will lead to the capaibility to add more gasoline and ultimately create more power, that point agreed.

But Nitrous Oxide injection is not "forced" into the chamber. The natural aspiration of the engine does this for you.

Supercharging, in the text book sense, is pressurizing atmosphere before entering the combustion chamber. It is literally creating an artificial atmosphere so that the engine ingests more than the standard.


Regardless, as stated before, I do think that a nitrous dyno should be placed in that thread. For that matter, I think a RB NA dyno and when we get it a Cobb NA dyno should be there also.

true true

X2 about adding the dynos

Why did you dyno in 3rd? Also your car made some pretty good power N/A if that dynojet was already SAE corrected. I wouldn't be surprised if the car could run a mid 13 @ 103-104 mph on spray.

yup, it was SAE corrected, why was I not supposed to dyno in 3rd? I heard it gives least #of whp, that would be good, so it means I can potentially make more power, besides, we use 3rd gear most often

dont most cars dyno 4th?

i still say a 75 shot and tuning you hit low 13's and knockin on the 12's door .... suggesting that you can drive ofcourse

4th would get me more whp I would guess, but im fine wth 193......I am hoping to hit 200+ NA once I tune and get that water pump from Will

not syain gyour wrong ... just trying to learn here... but would the waterpump really help in giving more horse?

^ that depends on whether or not Will is lying to me

If you dyno in fourth you can't spray until higher in the rev range...

no, you can still spray at 4k

Ray, would you care to comment? I remember from your thread you telling people to spray at different RPMs in each gear... But I don't remember seeing any hard numbers.

ok, from what I have tried, you should not spray in 1st gear AT ALL!, its not that the motor can't handle it but it causes very high traction loss

second gear I spray at 3.5-4k no problem

3rd/4th/5th/6th I spray at 4k, all gears, I have no problem at all
5th gear and 6th gear are pretty useless if you want to spray at 4k though, I mean whats the point, you'll just end up with an empty bottle

Only reason i said to post it was because a NEW dyno comparison thread was up this morning, it only had 2 posts, the last being that of Pettit stageII and stage II CS version (i think it was pettit). It must have been deleted cuz i cant find it now. No big deal.

all good :), all that matters is that we can at least kick the NA people's ass at the moment